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    • Doc N
    • By Doc N 17th Jan 18, 1:54 PM
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    Specsavers and their expensive extra options - advice please?
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    • 17th Jan 18, 1:54 PM
    Specsavers and their expensive extra options - advice please? 17th Jan 18 at 1:54 PM
    Been using Specsavers for many years now, and while they were once cheap, they're certainly not now - mainly because of the cost of their add-on options. They're masters at confusion marketing - and also upselling by commission-hungry staff.

    Wife needs varifocals (additional cost £49, £79 or £119, depending on 'quality').

    She also needs Thin + Light lenses because her prescription would otherwise be too heavy to wear comfortably (additional cost £45, £65 or £95, depending on how thin).

    So with a £99 frame the cost can be as high as £313 - certainly not cheap.

    The 'free' second pair would only be free without the Thin + Light lenses. Thin + Light is chargeable on the second 'free' pair.

    The question I'd love to have an answer to is this: just how much difference is there between those varifocal lenses which vary between £49 extra and £119 extra?

    And how much difference between those Thin + Light lenses which vary between £45 and £95?

    There must be huge profits in this for Specsavers (given that Asda, for example, include the cost of varifocals and superthin lenses without extra charge) but how do those Specsavers options really stack up. How bad are their basic quality £49 varifocals, and how heavy are their basic £45 Thin + Light lenses?



    Anybody out there with some inside information?
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    • bazzyb
    • By bazzyb 19th Jan 18, 7:20 AM
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    Even the most specialist lenses are extremely cheap to produce and Specsavers make a massive markup.

    For many years now I have had my eyes tested at Vision Express and then bought my frames and lenses from Glasses Direct. Their service is outstanding and the price is a fraction of what you would pay at a high street optician (even after I have upgraded to ultra thin lenses). Highly recommended.
    • kirtondm
    • By kirtondm 19th Jan 18, 4:57 PM
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    Specsaver's staff do not get commission.

    Not true individual stores decide these commision payments staff are often on a bonus for coatings / high index and the optometritst are monitred on 'conversion' they performance dependent on how many customers are 'converted' to specs.

    All varfiocals are prism thined and surfaced anyway so unless you have a massive prescipriton I would query whether you need high index or not. Much more useful for -prescriptions than + prsecriptions.

    The quality of the lens is important with generally the more you pay the better the quality of the lens. Some people are much more sensitive to it than others.

    For the first time varifocal the danger of going for 2 cheap a lens is that you don't get on with it and then it puts you off varficoals for life which are generally the best option if you can get on with them.

    You are taking pot luck ordering varfiocals online unless you are getting them to replicate something already made.
    • ScotinLondon
    • By ScotinLondon 21st Jan 18, 12:38 PM
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    Please also remember that all opticians on the high street have to pay rent, high business rates, electricity, staff wages, corporate tax etc which are higher than for online stores. These high street stores have to ensure that their costs are covered or they could close.
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    • Februarycat
    • By Februarycat 21st Jan 18, 1:52 PM
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    Do Asda really include the thinner lenses for no extra cost?

    I'm very high prescription and always pay to have them as thin as I possible can. I'm about a -13.
    Originally posted by pollyanna24

    Pollyanna, I'm the same -13 and did not think Asda do the thin lens as Im sure I e mailed them once to check, and they said No, but maybe they have changed now, think I will pop in when Im near to Asda (we don't have one in my town)
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    • Doc N
    • By Doc N 21st Jan 18, 3:26 PM
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    Pollyanna, I'm the same -13 and did not think Asda do the thin lens as Im sure I e mailed them once to check, and they said No, but maybe they have changed now, think I will pop in when Im near to Asda (we don't have one in my town)
    Originally posted by Februarycat
    This may help - it shows what they include:

    https://opticians.asda.com/info/our-complete-price-on-glasses

    Thinner lenses (if required), anti-reflective coating, advanced varifocal lenses - all included in the price (even for the £45 value frames).

    It's only when you look at the Asda prices that you realise just how expensive Specsavers has become over the years. Specsavers was cheap once!
    • pollyanna24
    • By pollyanna24 22nd Jan 18, 4:00 PM
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    This may help - it shows what they include:

    https://opticians.asda.com/info/our-complete-price-on-glasses

    Thinner lenses (if required), anti-reflective coating, advanced varifocal lenses - all included in the price (even for the £45 value frames).

    It's only when you look at the Asda prices that you realise just how expensive Specsavers has become over the years. Specsavers was cheap once!
    Originally posted by Doc N
    Thanks for that. I went to that link and they don't say anything about high prescription or complex lens, except for the disclaimer below. I think they will probably be okay for normal prescriptions, but not higher ones.

    Subject to availability. Certain lens brands are excluded. Certain lens options are subject to prescription. The 2 for offer is based on both pairs of glasses being purchased together for the same customer. For full details on all our offers, please ask an Optical Colleague in-store.
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    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 23rd Jan 18, 8:40 PM
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    My son went to Asda for the first time, this weekend and was amazed at how cheap they were, but did miss Specsavers' larger range. Only Specsavers do the frame he has currently and likes,but he chose the cheaper option.
    • LandM1
    • By LandM1 29th Jan 18, 11:10 PM
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    I get my eyes tested at Specsavers but never buy my glasses there anymore. They're expensive and to my mind their frames are really boring. Recently I've bought frames in Italy at very competitive prices and got them glazed locally by the optician that gives the lowest quote. I always get basic varifocals and have never felt the need to get anything fancier. I've never thought about thinner lenses mine seem fine!
    • Februarycat
    • By Februarycat 30th Jan 18, 1:51 PM
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    Thanks for that. I went to that link and they don't say anything about high prescription or complex lens, except for the disclaimer below. I think they will probably be okay for normal prescriptions, but not higher ones.

    Subject to availability. Certain lens brands are excluded. Certain lens options are subject to prescription. The 2 for offer is based on both pairs of glasses being purchased together for the same customer. For full details on all our offers, please ask an Optical Colleague in-store.
    Originally posted by pollyanna24


    Pollyanna24 - I noticed the disclaimer too, it's annoying we have to pay full price for having complex lens. I remember my local opticians doing an offer for pair of glasses plus free sunglasses with prescription lens, when I asked about it for my prescription they said Sorry not in offer!
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    • Murphybear
    • By Murphybear 31st Jan 18, 3:55 PM
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    I also have varifocals with thin lenses and found that Specsavers are getting too expensive. I read an article a few years ago that said that the extras like varifocals and thin lenses donít cost much more to produce so itís another rip off.

    I bought some prescription sunglasses from Asda where everything was included, varifocals, thin lenses and designer frames. My OH paid extra for Polaroid lenses for me. They are really good and I canít believe how clear my vision is with them. When I need new glasses it will be off to Asda.
    • Doc N
    • By Doc N 31st Jan 18, 4:14 PM
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    I also have varifocals with thin lenses and found that Specsavers are getting too expensive. I read an article a few years ago that said that the extras like varifocals and thin lenses donít cost much more to produce so itís another rip off.

    I bought some prescription sunglasses from Asda where everything was included, varifocals, thin lenses and designer frames. My OH paid extra for Polaroid lenses for me. They are really good and I canít believe how clear my vision is with them. When I need new glasses it will be off to Asda.
    Originally posted by Murphybear
    Very much the case. Most extras cost Specsavers a couple of pounds, if that, and most frames around a fiver.

    Not difficult to work out from that the potential profits, even allowing for overheads.
    • GlasweJen
    • By GlasweJen 2nd Feb 18, 8:42 PM
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    Pollyanna24 - I noticed the disclaimer too, it's annoying we have to pay full price for having complex lens. I remember my local opticians doing an offer for pair of glasses plus free sunglasses with prescription lens, when I asked about it for my prescription they said Sorry not in offer!
    Originally posted by Februarycat
    When I worked for Asda (finished in 2008) the offer applied to prescriptions from -20 to +16 combined, cyl couldnít be higher than 6.
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    • Abbafan1972
    • By Abbafan1972 11th Feb 18, 1:51 PM
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    Hubby has stopped using specsavers for the exact reasons of this thread, rubbish quality and expensive because of all the "extras".

    Most of the staff in our local branch don't know what they're talking about and make it all very confusing and hubby gets annoyed with them.

    He has started going to Asda now as well.
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