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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 1:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent




    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.

    From the 2016 thread

    How/ Where Can I Dispose of My Unwanted Items?

    It is vitally important to make sure that you dispose of your unwanted items asap - less chance of any doubts creeping in and items making their way back!

    To make money and/ or save items from landfill, you may find the following ideas useful:

    Money Making: - am sure many will use this already. Be careful of fees - ebay now charge final value fees (FVF) on your postage as well as the amount which the items sells for. - can sell any unwanted books, CDs, DVDs & games. Download the app onto your smartphone/ tablet for ease of use - scan the barcodes and it will tell you if the item is accepted and what price they will give you. For even more money, go through a cashback site first (such as or (tip: save your accepted items in your virtual 'cart'. If you have any items which they initially refuse, try re-scanning these several days later - I find about another 20-50% of previously unaccepted items go through on another attempt!) - Quidco are currently offering 60p to new members to Preloved (Jan 2016); plus you get 10p for posting a new advert. It's free to join and post adverts to Preloved, you can post things for sale or free to a good home so might be an alternative to eBay, free cycle, facebook selling pages to offload unwanted, unloved items. All free ads include a photo and private ads are completely free, no listing fees, no selling fees and no catches - free online classified ad site

    Recycling/ Reusing Items: (often raising funds for charities at the same time )

    You can post them to the Breast Cancer charity here or you can go hand them in to a branch of Bravissimo.

    OR : raise funds for Nowzad Dogs - the only official animal charity in Afghanistan:

    Unwanted pens
    You can post your unwanted pens to people overseas to help schools and orphanages via

    Ink jet Printer Cartridges
    Can be dropped off at Sue Ryder stores or posted off freepost for a charity from wide list or Tesco club card points for you via

    Books & Music
    British Heart Foundation and Oxfam both do specialist charity shops that sell books and music so you could separate those donations to maximise the money the charities make

    Postcards: can raise money for Great Ormond St children's hospital.

    Stamps: GOSH also take all stamps, special and everyday, as do the RNIB

    Maternity items/ baby & children's clothing/ nursery furniture/ toiletries/ nappies - a baby bank (like a food bank, but maternity and child related items for families in crisis) Lots springing up around the country. Some independent, some part of a small network. Up to date list can be found on stripey stork's website

    Toiletries/ make-up/ clothing (women's and children's) - women's refuge centres. Google your local area for one - but be prepared you may have to drop off to a 3rd party point - for obvious reasons they do not always want to publicise their location! Or post to : to help women and children in the Southern/ London area

    charity shops
    gumtree etc insert 14 Jan 2019

    If you haven't already join the Forum to join in the challenge.

    This Forum tip was included in's weekly email!
    Last edited by Slinky; 22-01-2019 at 9:32 AM. Reason: Add in list from 2016 of places to dispose of unwanted items, thanks for locating them greent
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 11th May 18, 11:06 AM
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    Siebrie, what a pain! Sorry to hear it

    Kittie, silk sounds amazing.

    Kondoing for me - um, opening the post and disposing of the packaging? And making sure as much as possible is in the bin, as collection is today. And gradually getting rid of the pile of rotted down turfs from when I first got here - the now-its-soil, I'm just throwing it at the back of the border on the shady side. It'll do nicely there.
    Downsized and paid off mortgage 2010
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    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 11th May 18, 5:24 PM
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    Finished painting the decks on the boat - the sanding, masking and panting has taken DH 4 days! ( No it's not a big boat!) I've been sorting lockers - got rid of quite a few items from the previous owner that had died in storage. Found a set of elderly mucky foulies in a locker - I'll give them a wash & if they come up OK ill pass them to a CS.
    No more jobs to do on board now - she's all ready for some decent sailing g weather!
    I won't mention the state of the house.........I have a list
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 11th May 18, 5:34 PM
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    Sounds great silvasava. I went out on my friends!!!8217; boat on Saturday, was delighted to see that the sheet bags that I sweated over last year are still in place, and the outboard motor cover. We had a brilliant day - just a gentle sail up the river and back but it was perfect weather and stress free.

    Kitties I!!!8217;m slightly envious - silk sheets sound so luxurious - but I think I!!!8217;d be worried about damaging them, the cat likes to jump on the bed to wake me up and I have a feeling they wouldn!!!8217;t wear well!
    "Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    • kittie
    • By kittie 11th May 18, 6:14 PM
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    silk is definitely not good value for money. I always washed mine gently in a very good machine with silk wash and they look debraded after just one season. The sun changes the colour and they need ironing. I went through all my sheets and was pleasantly surprised because I have not got an infinite amount of silk bedding. Crazy thing is that it all started with two silk pillowcases as they are lovely for hair and face. I have 2 duvet covers, 2 large flat sheets in case the weather becomes very warm and I only want a light blanket, 2 fitted sheets and a few pillow cases. They are slippy and sumptuous for a while but soon lose that luxury look. I cannot see them lasting more than 2 years

    All cosy bedding is away in storage and I do have the right amount. I found one set of white percale cotton bedding, non-iron and easy to wash and I found a set of expensive white egyptian cotton, high thread count but not easy to manage laundrywise. All in all they will do if I have 2 visitors, any more and I will have to get some more percale. I have one heavy set of white cotton bedding that needs tlc, or an unfussy owner, nothing wrong with it, just washed too hot, got a bit stiffer and is no longer lily white and I would rather pass it on than cope with it

    One reason for me not fretting about the silk now is that I had been keeping it to try and make the 2 singles look nice for selling the house but the colours are different now because of the sun. I bought 2 sets of 10 pieces of polyester bedding from qvc, sale price and very glitzy, swirls, braids, tassels, throws and cushions. I have left them in their packaging and they will be purely to dress the room, I know the 2 grandaughters will bite my hand off for them afterwards. Hence me using the silk
    Last edited by kittie; 11-05-2018 at 6:22 PM.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 11th May 18, 6:38 PM
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    Does anyone else here suffer with an imp on their shoulder who, when you have replaced an everyday item with something you like better, whispers that you better keep the old one because?

    Last week I found a very nice stainless steel mirror finish teapot for £2.99 in a chazzer. It is nicer than the one I have been using; a fraction bigger (this was an issue), spout shape is a better pourer, plus it is more attractive and would have been a more expensive one new (better quality, nicer design).

    Soooo, I bring it into service, clean the other one up and what happens? I put it in a high kitchen cupboard and keep it because?

    Because I might need to make tea for 6+ people at once (three's a crowd in the microflat) and will need two teapots? Because I might simultaneously want one pot of black tea and one of green tea? Because I might break a strong stainless steel teapot and then I'll be REALLY sorry I gave the old one away? Because stainless steel teapots are rare and costly items and I'll never see another, will I?!

    Craziness. I shall check if it is required at the parental homestead and, if not, off to the chazzer it goes.

    OK, teapot going to the 'rents later this month, along with the net curtains which I'm altering to fit her windows. These were bought a number of years ago when I moved into this flat and was imagining 4 netted windows and one glazed door net. Didn't need a fraction of that as went to different coverings but for one window, so most of the netting was totally unused but stashed in the airing cupboard. Mum wanted to know if I remembered what I'd paid for them as she wanted to give me some money (her wants, not mine, she's insisting). Being a financial nerd, it took me about 20 seconds to find the account page for the month and year and I bought this fabric half price for £24.22 and she's insisting on my having half that. It's fine by me as I'll be having a trip in the next few weeks and I shall turn that money into something experiential (museum entry, most likely).
    Last edited by GreyQueen; 11-05-2018 at 7:49 PM.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 11th May 18, 8:33 PM
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    I know that imp very well GQ - I nearly saved the foulies for Justin! But will I be sailing in storm force winds? Not B likely!!!!
    So glad you got to see the fruits of your labours Polly and had a lovely day sailing - you certainly deserved it - there was a good sheet bag on my boat when I bought it but the velcro had rotted. I nearly three it away but remembered I had some velcro I'd saved from something else. It's a nice blue bag sporting red velcro now
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • Charly27
    • By Charly27 12th May 18, 2:16 AM
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    Hello all coming out of lurkdom to say “hi”. I was lent the book ‘The Joy of Less’ at Easter by a friend. Interesting read. I have been on a use up mission with toiletries and cleaners and alongside KM, animal friendly and zero waste only coming into the house.
    A visit to CS left me waving goodbye to a scrapbook, card stock, a blouse my sister gave me, a French-style loo roll holder thing (what possessed me to think I lived in a chateau) and two ceramic bonsai dishes minus the trees (killed them years ago).
    GQ it’s reassuring to hear your teapot dilemmas None of us are immune to Justin’s charms it seems.
    So I confess - 4 paperbacks to MIL in hospital, two books in (only one a keeper). Love to all.
    Proud to be dealing with my debts! DF Nerd # 1475
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    It is what it is.
    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 12th May 18, 6:45 AM
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    I was trying to find the lid for a travel mug yesterday, searched high and low and it's vanished!

    I caught myself putting the mug back in the "thermos and travel mugs box" (get me! How posh does that sound??) when I suddenly heard GQ's voice in my ear (or what I imagine her voice to be) saying....Justin doesn't need a lidless travel mug now does he...

    So it's in a bag ready to take to the allotment once the sheds arrived and it will be my coffee cup there lid required!
    "Start every day off with a smile and get it over with" - W. C. Field.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th May 18, 6:50 AM
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    Lovely to 'see' you again, Charly27. I sometimes feel that I ought to have the shoulders of an American football linebacker, there are so many imps jostling for position up there to whisper in my shell-likes.

    Yesterday, I gave away some flowerbulbs which someone had decluttered to me (they just appeared on my allotment, I found out after the event what they were and who'd given them). They weren't something I particularly wanted, although I could have found a niche for them in the 450 m sq of allotments but, as serendipity sometimes provides, an acquaintance starting a community garden project on a shoestring chatted to me about gardening and was delighted to have them.

    This feels good, the acquaintance is a good person trying to do good work with negligble resources and the bulbs will be growing somewhere there is not a lot of beauty at present and I can always walk over a couple of streets next year and see them flowering. Plus many other people will get the pleasure, too.

    A bit of online research yestereve revealed that the £12 Mum is insisting on giving me for the nets will pay for a joint ticket for two great museums on my trip, so that will be an absence of some clutter, a win for Mum and some happy memories for moi.

    Today's cunning plan will involve a couple of hours at the juntique shop helping my pal out with some stuff. He's incredibly knowledgeable about his stock but very disorganised about other matters. I get to boss paperwork about and drag strange things out of cobwebby corners and ask what they are.

    I could tidy up at home, but home isn't such a target-rich environment and doesn't offer things like Napoleonic War bayonets among the clutter...........

    ETA; Well done, Pooky! I'm told I sound like Charlotte Green, the radio 4 newsreader, if that helps your imagination, lol.
    Last edited by GreyQueen; 12-05-2018 at 6:55 AM. Reason: To add a bit
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • greent
    • By greent 12th May 18, 7:42 AM
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    This week's outs (some underwear eaten by the WM, some other underwear and socks worn through, some Tupperware to CS alongside 2 read paperbacks, a very smelly candle (won at Tombola) taken out of CS bag and given to my mum, a toy sold on t'bay, more hotel toiletries used (almost all gone - about a week's worth left)) have been balanced by some 'ins' - 2 giraffe garden ornaments (somewhat whimsical, but hey!), a set of dinosaur drinking glasses (we like patterned glasses here), a string of 200 solar lights for a tree in the back garden and 5 small (and cheap) solar spike lights for a particular flower bed. However, what has come in is joyful - and most of it is living outside anyway! Oh - I forgot - have also taken delivery of 2 new loo seats - 1 was a free replacement of 1 purchased last Summer and which cracked a couple of months ago and the other is to replace another seat which has also broken. So 2 seats in, but 2 seats will be going out (landfill, unfortunately, but I'm not sure there's a market for broken second hand loo seats!! Packaging will be recycled/ reused (the bubble wrap has gone into my flebay stash)

    Today I plan on exchanging 2 large bags of fabric recycling (worn out clothes and a ripped sheet) at H&M for 2 x £5 off £25 spend vouchers. Not planning on using vouchers yet - but will do over the Summer at some point (DD at 20 buys most of her stuff from H&M and DS1(18) happily wears their jeans. DS2 and DS3 have occasional items from there - but I do get away with lots of handmedowns for them

    I also need to pick up a bday card (nothing suitable in stash, as I've run it down to almost bare bones) and 2 presents - all of which will be leaving here (along with a card from stash) over the weekend, so very much temporary residents Hopefully, the only other purchases should be food....
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    • Elona
    • By Elona 12th May 18, 10:43 AM
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    How I wish you had a Napoleonic bayonet when the "lovely person" rattled your door last night.

    Wondering innocently why I have the voice of Jonesy in Dad's Army in my head saying "They don't like it up em sir!"

    Finally feeling a bit better so managed to get several loads of washing done and dried yesterday and will spend this morning tidying all of it away and assembling the ottoman that just arrived to be stored in the conservatory.

    Someone has offered to take the coat hangers to the recycling centre on Thursday so I want to sort them out and keep maybe twenty for using to air clothes outside etc. then put the ones to get rid off into a big bin bag out of the way.

    Meeting a dd in York later so will make sure I have a bite to eat before I go and pace myself as I get wobbly in the heat.
    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 12th May 18, 6:33 PM
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    Made a small bag to go on the boat to hold bits and pieces and used a small piece of leftover canvas. When DH & I were working on the boat during the week I was making pots of tea - but no cosy for our second cup. I checked in the kitchen drawer at home and had one that belonged to my mum - too small for our teapot but kept (?)
    Now recovered with a piece of leftover striped boat curtain fabric - mum's cosy lives on!
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 13th May 18, 10:15 AM
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    Small amt of Stuff going to CS so far, may be more later.

    I may have made progress re the dratted model boat that sits on a shelf in our small LR. I have enquired about a smaller display case in order that it could be re-sited on a cabinet that is tucked under our open-plan stairs. I would prefer it in the alcove on DH's side of the bedroom but that would render the top of his COD out of action. The model boat is pretty big and dominates the room.
    I mentioned the possible relocation and egged DH on by pointing out that our latest artwork could hang above the newly empty shelf DH seems concerned about what will go on the shelf if the boat isn't there - not sure if he is worried it will be empty or worried it will be full !

    I also explained where i wanted my lovely floating shelves to go (they have hidden drawers that will contain the essentials that are currently clutter, eg, TV-watching specs, chargers, timer switch for lamp and my small binoculars). I will not use them as shelves, I want them to be clutter-free.

    The last plan for relocation is some winter clothes and 2 fleecy blankets. If I can get rid of one of the bulky sunloungers (DH wants to keep one of the 2) I can vac-pack the blankets etc and they can nest in that space.

    Wish me luck!
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
    • wort
    • By wort 13th May 18, 10:50 AM
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    Mmf, that boat!!! Could a shelf be put above his cod? Therefore leaving the top of cod free .
    I hope you get it moved , I know how long you've been eyeing it up!!
    Focus on contribution instead of the impressiveness of consumption to see the true beauty in people.
    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 13th May 18, 11:47 AM
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    Wort, that was the original idea but the COD is tall and the ceiling slopes lower over it!
    I am fairly sure it will be acceptable to both parties to locate it on the cabinet, tucked away a bit but still visible to anyone who is interested.
    The irony is that I bought the model boat as a present for DH! It was a while ago though
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
    • short_bird
    • By short_bird 13th May 18, 2:47 PM
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    Will be popping in over the next few days as there needs to be some serious Kondoing in the kitchen.
    Apart from evicting whatever smells really manky in the fridge , I need to check all the kitchen contents for foods with gluten and dispose of them either by donation or by eating the stuff that can't be guaranteed gluten free.
    Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas.
    • MMF007
    • By MMF007 13th May 18, 7:03 PM
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    Well, after a couple of bits were relocated (winter woolies and blankets), the sun came out and I relocated myself to a garden chair with my Kindle. Er, not much got done this afto!

    I have decided that I don't need a new watch, just a new strap.

    I'll pop into the local jeweller's tomorrow as i pass by on my way between clients.

    I have made sizeable list of things to be passed on to my brother and his kids, who we shall see in 3 week's time. All things they want or will enjoy, mostly consumables. I prefer to have the space!

    Hope you all had an enjoyable day. Wouldn't it be nice if it was a Bank Holiday weekend again?!
    I have changed my work-life balance to a life-work balance.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 13th May 18, 7:55 PM
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    Evening all.

    Had a busy day but very enjoyable.

    Spent two hours on Plot1, clearing the small area which is presently a preserve for the spearmint plantation and my extensive collection of indigenous native plants. OK, weeds.

    Got muddy to the knee in process as there was a lot of rain overnight and everything was wringing wet. It gave me great joy to work under the wire fence which separates Plots 1 and 2 and tacked the nettle clump. By golly, I think I've got the lot. I never could deal with it properly before I had Plot2 as the lion's share of the roots were on that side. And I used to get stung several times a year by the nettles growing thru into Plot1.

    I have been at a pal's for luncheon and a mid-afto chazzer run and then came home and finished a library book due back tomorrow (4 going back) and settled down to deal with a project for the juntique shop. Said project involved several types of interelated items cluttering up my LR for several weeks, as I needed a specific kind of material which I sourced this afternoon for a mere £2.

    Highly delighted and the whole kit & caboodle will go over to the shop, prolly on Tuesday. Think my pal will be well-pleased with the results.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Redlady.....
    • By Redlady..... 14th May 18, 5:05 AM
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    Grey Queen, I find your little jaunts to the junktique shop as interesting and funny as your homestead ones (well nearly), wish you had more time to spend there.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 15th May 18, 6:49 AM
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    Grey Queen, I find your little jaunts to the junktique shop as interesting and funny as your homestead ones (well nearly), wish you had more time to spend there.
    Originally posted by Redlady.....
    Aww thanks. And I can only tell you a mere fraction of what goes on in there, due to isshews about other people's privacy (customers and owner). Your mind would boggle as I can't tell one-tenth of it atm!

    Pal is trying to hire me away from my current employer but, as he's in his seventies and I'm in my fifties, I cannot give up secure employment to take on what will inevitably be a short-term role, much as I'd love to. If I was within 1-2 years of retirement age, I'd leap at the opportunity.

    Picture this; pal and me in the juntique shop, me fossicking in the scrap boxes and hauling out random little bits.

    GQ; I think you could sell this.
    Pal: What? It's absolute trash.
    GQ; No, seriously, I think if I cleaned it up a bit and put it in a nice little box in the window it'd fly out of here.
    Pal: Fly like a tide of molasses, you mean.
    **** said item is titivated and presented nicely****
    Pal; (gloomily) It'll never sell, you know.

    Sometimes it sells within the hour, sometimes within a few days or weeks. Some things take months. I was in there on Saturday and it was busy so I sold a customer something out of the window. When it was quiet again, I told him I'd got £50 for a bit of costume jewellery and he nearly fell off his chair........
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

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