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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 12:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2017

    2016

    2015


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.


    From the 2016 thread

    How/ Where Can I Dispose of My Unwanted Items?

    It is vitally important to make sure that you dispose of your unwanted items asap - less chance of any doubts creeping in and items making their way back!


    To make money and/ or save items from landfill, you may find the following ideas useful:

    Money Making:

    www.ebay.co.uk - am sure many will use this already. Be careful of fees - ebay now charge final value fees (FVF) on your postage as well as the amount which the items sells for.

    www.ziffit.com - can sell any unwanted books, CDs, DVDs & games. Download the app onto your smartphone/ tablet for ease of use - scan the barcodes and it will tell you if the item is accepted and what price they will give you. For even more money, go through a cashback site first (such as www.topcashback.co.uk or www.quidco.com) (tip: save your accepted items in your virtual 'cart'. If you have any items which they initially refuse, try re-scanning these several days later - I find about another 20-50% of previously unaccepted items go through on another attempt!)


    www.preloved.co.uk - Quidco are currently offering 60p to new members to Preloved (Jan 2016); plus you get 10p for posting a new advert. It's free to join and post adverts to Preloved, you can post things for sale or free to a good home so might be an alternative to eBay, free cycle, facebook selling pages to offload unwanted, unloved items. All free ads include a photo and private ads are completely free, no listing fees, no selling fees and no catches


    www.gumtree.com - free online classified ad site


    Recycling/ Reusing Items: (often raising funds for charities at the same time )

    Bras
    You can post them to the Breast Cancer charity here http://www.againstbreastcancer.org.uk/get-involved/fundraising/recycling/513/bra-recycling/ or you can go hand them in to a branch of Bravissimo.



    OR : raise funds for Nowzad Dogs - the only official animal charity in Afghanistan: http://www.nowzad.com/help-us/bras-for-nowzad/


    Unwanted pens
    You can post your unwanted pens to people overseas to help schools and orphanages via http://www.pensforkids.co.uk/how_you_can_help.html


    Ink jet Printer Cartridges
    Can be dropped off at Sue Ryder stores or posted off freepost for a charity from wide list or Tesco club card points for you via http://www.therecyclingfactory.com
    /our-partners/


    Books & Music
    British Heart Foundation and Oxfam both do specialist charity shops that sell books and music so you could separate those donations to maximise the money the charities make



    Postcards: can raise money for Great Ormond St children's hospital. http://www.gosh.org/fundraise-us/shopping-and-recycling/recycling-and-environment


    Stamps: GOSH also take all stamps, special and everyday, as do the RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/donations-and-fundraising-fundraising-your-community-recycle-us/used-stamps-appeal


    Maternity items/ baby & children's clothing/ nursery furniture/ toiletries/ nappies - a baby bank (like a food bank, but maternity and child related items for families in crisis) Lots springing up around the country. Some independent, some part of a small network. http://www.babybanknetwork.com/how-you-can-help-2/ www.gloucestershirebundles.org http://www.littlebundles.org.uk/cambridge/donations Up to date list can be found on stripey stork's website


    Toiletries/ make-up/ clothing (women's and children's) - women's refuge centres. Google your local area for one - but be prepared you may have to drop off to a 3rd party point - for obvious reasons they do not always want to publicise their location! Or post to : http://www.carolinehirons.com/p/give-and-makeup.html to help women and children in the Southern/ London area

    charity shops
    ziffit
    ebay
    gumtree etc


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    Last edited by Slinky; 22-01-2019 at 8:32 AM. Reason: Add in list from 2016 of places to dispose of unwanted items, thanks for locating them greent
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 10th Jun 19, 9:00 PM
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    Well done Slinky, how is your arm?

    Not much going out here and the only stuff coming in is holiday related so will be going out again soon!
    Originally posted by camelot1001

    Thanks for asking, it's coming along OK. Been signed off by the fracture clinic, will need to go for physio again when I get back from holiday. It aches at times, particularly in the morning when I wake up as I will have been lying with it unsupported overnight. Need to do more tai chi to loosen and strengthen it.
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 13th Jun 19, 8:46 AM
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    I have kondoed lots yesterday! 1 car , 1 small upright freezer, 1 playstation, 150 A5 new notebooks (branded with old company logo), 7 bin liners and 5 moving boxes full of clothes, games, puzzles, and some pens. This all filled up the car . For husband's personal use while he is in his home country in August, we have added: a body lotion husband would otherwise not use, deodorant he also wouldn't otherwise use, 4 (really) old swim towels, 3 boxes of couscous (we suddenly had a small mountain; we still have 2 boxes left), some tins of fish dds don't particularly like, spelt spaghetti (where did that come from?). He will leave everything behind and come back with just some African dresses for dds

    I will now vacuum the quarter of the attic where all these items were stored, and hope that it will take some time before it fills up again

    ETA: husband and I completed our tax forms last night, and the website's calculation showed that we are due a €4,500 return!!!

    We also had a visit from the council's energy auditor (by invitation; subsidized by council). He walked through our house, and discussed where we could save energy. To be honest, we can't save much more; we are already on a third of average gas use and a quarter of average electricity use. He suggested putting in a better ventilation system, and putting on a new roof....... I don't think we will ever recoup those costs. The kondo part: for this visit I had to have the house's paperwork at hand, so I went through all I had (lots still in piles with other paperwork) and discarded quite a bit.
    Last edited by Siebrie; 13-06-2019 at 9:02 AM.
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 13th Jun 19, 9:46 AM
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    I'm kind of hopeful of doing some kondoing - the grubby work on my kitchen is finished, and i spent a lot of yesterday tidying the plaster dust and rubble that migrated to the living room. Part of that was opening two shoeboxes sitting at the bottom of my bookcase - I knew they contained cat ornaments, but I was surprised how many I didn't actually *like*. They can definitely go, but their route out is a little unclear as yet...
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 13th Jun 19, 9:51 AM
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    - I knew they contained cat ornaments, but I was surprised how many I didn't actually *like*. They can definitely go, but their route out is a little unclear as yet...
    Originally posted by Karmacat
    Outside your house with a sign 'free to a good home'?
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 13th Jun 19, 10:12 AM
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    Fast, but no there are two towns/cities close by where that gets sold for good money - so they'll be bought for rubbish money and there are also some inheritance things that need to be valued and sold/ valued and repaired. Thanks for the input, though
    Downsized and paid off mortgage 2010
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    New kitchen fully installed June 2019
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 13th Jun 19, 5:41 PM
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    Wow, Siebrie, that's an awesome amount of decluttering to get done in one lump. And well done on your energy efficiency compared with others. I'm always amused with things which apparently save X£ of energy worth per household per year. Err, nope, not here, since the 'saved' amount is actually greater than my entire gas and electicity bill. Several fold greater....



    Kondo-ing has slooowed a bit here as I am in the middle of Plate Spinning Season. By which I mean that every spare moment is spent gardening. Or, in a wet week like this one, climbing the walls in the evenings after work thinking about the gardening which isn't getting done.......


    Was on a little camping break last week in another part of the country and have decluttered all the touristy leaflets etc into the recycling. I borrowed an OS map of the area from the library and returned it, so no expense or clutter there. Although I love OS maps and could happily have the entire country's worth, if there was a bigger home to put them in.


    Have sent a defective product (smallish) back to the manufacturer to see if it is covered by the warranty, so there's that gone taking some packaging materials with it.


    Keep on keeping on, my lovelies. GQ xx



    I also managed to lose the soft-bristle brush from my brush and pan, which went camping. The mothership thinks there is a spare at her place which I can have. Plus I shall be adding a mini brush and pan to the camping gear, have my eye on a £1.99 unit in B & M.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 13th Jun 19, 8:57 PM
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    I hope you had dry weather for your camping trip!

    I once calculated the payback time for solar panels, which was advertised as 10 years. It would have taken us 23 years, assuming no breakages, etc.

    Working my way through the pantry, so dinner (for 4) was one huge chicken breast coated in ood chicken spices, one fennel bulb finely sliced (mandoline), and one ood packet of parsley rice from a meal kit where I threw out the spices for being too horrible. The fine leaves from the fennel were put on the table for snacking, which dds did with gusto It was lovely, and no leftovers Dessert was a ys stracciatella custard.

    Harvested and frozen: 8 strawberries, 15 rhubarb stalks.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 1.082,67 = £ 939.29
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    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 14th Jun 19, 5:54 AM
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    The weather varied between good and so-so, very grateful it wasn't like it is this week or we would have had a miserable time.


    The experience allowed me to review my camping gear and some tweaks are going to be made, are in process now. Some of these will involve making things from stuff I already own, some will involve some discreet acquistions on the 2nd hand market as and when I see the few items I had to borrow and could really do with owning.


    I really must get my arris in gear about using up some slightly antiquitated food cupboard items which I decided I didn;t like enough to make a regular part of my cooking. Been thinking about it every time I open that cupboard, and forgetting it every time I close the door.


    I also need to defrost the freezer and use up a few items inside to make room for the broad beans which are ready now, as I can't eat them all in real time. The ones which can't be eaten or frozen are allowed to dry on the stem and eaten as dried beans.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 14th Jun 19, 8:04 AM
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    I had quite a bit of frozen fruit and rhubarb in my freezer, and am only now really eating them, since I rediscovered how easy it is to make compote, which I then have with my plain breakfast yoghurt.

    I have simplefied making my own granola. I used to buy a bag of cheap muesli, pick out the fruit bits, mix with oil and honey, and pop in the oven. The picking-out bit was rather time consuming. This time,
    I used oats, ood sunflower seeds, oil and honey. Popped in the oven, after 5 minutes stirred and added coconut slivers and ood sesame seeds, another 5 minutes. Removed from oven, added any dried fruit I had (raisins, pineapple, papaya, mango), and popped amaranth seeds. Mixed in nice glass container. Soooo much nicer than shopbought!

    Both the compote as well as the granola spark much joy, in making and in eating.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 1.082,67 = £ 939.29
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Jun 19, 8:28 AM
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    Right.....hello everyone, I am back again, for another go.

    The weather is still grim and doesn't look like improving for a while yet so I am going to take this opportunity and use it as an excuse for another round of decluttering.

    I too have assorted bric a brac which I have just bagged up and will take to the auction house next week. It won't make my fortune but every little helps........

    Going to have a quick sweep through my wardrobe. I'm going to be ruthless......
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 15th Jun 19, 10:16 AM
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    While I was packing all the stuff for export to Africa, I refound about 50 dvd's at the bottom of the box in the attic. These are all copies, which we cannot ship over a country border. They have been in that box for at least two years, and husband has never asked after them, so I have made the executive decision that they can go in the bin. I will do this next week, when everyone is out of the house.

    Used up: sample of men's face cream that I had asked husband to use up for about four months. I have now used it myself the smell only lingers for about 15 minutes.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 1.082,67 = £ 939.29
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 15th Jun 19, 4:09 PM
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    I love those decisions, Siebrie, good for you
    Downsized and paid off mortgage 2010
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    Paid off French mortgage September 2018
    New kitchen fully installed June 2019
    • pavlovs_dog
    • By pavlovs_dog 15th Jun 19, 7:13 PM
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    not posting much, but still chipping away at the clutter.

    Tonight I came across a book called decluttering at the speed of life. I have only skimmed the author's blog and read a few summaries of the book. Some of her approach is quite different to the Konmari method, other aspects I think compliment it quite well. There is a good summary here.

    In essence;

    1) you should declutter without making a bigger mess
    2) start with the most visual clutter and quick wins
    3) when decluttering, you deal with things instantly. Each item is either binned, recycled or rehomed but you do it straight away.
    4) When dealing with homeless items, ask yourself

    If I was looking for this item, where would I look for it first?
    If I needed this item, would it ever occur to me that I already have one?

    5) put things where they belong even if that space is currently in chaos. But don't get distracted by the chaos of that space...
    6) ... complete one space/project at a time.
    7) Deal with Procrasticlutter. This is all the stuff you stop noticing because you know exactly what you need to do to deal with it. You just haven’t dealt with it.
    8) think of your home/existing storage solutions as containers. If your possessions don't fit within your existing containers, you have too much stuff. Try the 1 in, 1 out approach if you need to add something to an overflowing space.

    As someone who is very guilty of 1) and 7) (and 7)s caused by 1)s ) I shall certainly be trialling her advice alongside the KM principles
    know thyself

    Nid wy'n gofyn bywyd moethus...
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 16th Jun 19, 9:47 AM
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    I like the concept of Procrasticlutter and the "questions to ask" are really good s well but to make decisions instantly, and declutter without making a temporary mess ... may be good for some, but I'm not going there
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 16th Jun 19, 3:12 PM
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    I was watching some inspiring you tubers about minimalism etc before going out gardening this morning and dove into the CodD and pulled everything out of two drawers.


    Result is sone definate Outs and some Maybes. I will wear the Maybes during the coming week or two and decide if they're keepers or not. If not, next time they come thru the wash cycle, they're off to the chazzer.


    Was gardening today between showers and potting on. Found a couple of the flowerpot stash had gone brittle and split, another couple are slightly broken but can do another season. All are washed up and dripping dry on the top of the bean poles like a row of jolly hats. Normally I'd chuck 'em dirty into a big trug and leave 'em. Which would make the trug unusable for the duration and lead to a mahoosive washing up sesh stooped over the stand tap at the plots. Not kind on the back and something I'm trying to avoid when possible, so little and often is the way now.


    Have also realised that the allotment pondlet which I acquired last year when I look on the next door plot must have a leak in its liner as the level drops ridiculously fast. I had wondered if it was evaporation but the surface area is pretty small, the pondlet is pretty deep and the water dropped 3 inches in 24 hrs. I shall eventually get to a garden centre and get another liner, but will keep it topped up meanwhile as there are froggies in there.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 17th Jun 19, 7:47 AM
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    Oooh GQ I luvs froggies.......and toads
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 17th Jun 19, 9:53 AM
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    I gave the kitchen a good scrub on Friday, and behind the cabinet with the coffee machine I found a complete frog skeleton

    On Saturday I made a flowerbed with the plugplants I bought a month ago, following dd2's advice: just dig a hole and plop them in Unfortunately, I strained my back and am now moving very carefully, or lying on the sofa with a hot water bottle against my back, watching Homes under the Hammer.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 1.082,67 = £ 939.29
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Jun 19, 5:08 PM
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    Siebrie, I'm a recovering perfectionist and am telling myself that the important thing is to get the seeds/ plants (trans) planted, it doesn't matter if they're in a straight line or whatever, just get on with it.


    Have been wearing one of the Maybe tops today, and it's a keeper. Will try a different one tomorrow. Was talking to the mothership who has been clothes shopping today for really comfortable things and she's got three pairs yoga pants and 3 tops and is now thinking that the several drawersful of her clothing that I kondo-folded approx 3 years ago, and which has been undisturbed ever since, need rethinking.


    Here's hoping there's a major clearout on the cards and that the charity shops will benefit.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 17th Jun 19, 5:46 PM
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    Ooh Greyqueen, how exciting that the kondo method works for your Mum!

    I have several more plugplants that really need a home, but they have to wait until my back has recovered. Drs estimate is four days. DD1 is really helpful, dd2 is complaining that she isn't my little slave (it's her own stuff I'm asking her to pick up!).
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 1.082,67 = £ 939.29
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Jun 19, 8:59 PM
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    GreyQueen
    She's quite resistant to decluttering, some Isshews regarding getting rid of stuff, very harsh early life forming hoarder habits.


    I had heard her remark that the kondo-folded items had remained in their folds, thus demonstrating that they weren't being used. I didn't go in like a bull at the gate, I'm playing slowly slowly catchee monkey and letting her draw her own conclusions.


    There have been false dawns before, I won't get my hopes up until the bags hit the chazzer.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

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