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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 1:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2017

    2016

    2015


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.

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    • kittydfw2012
    • By kittydfw2012 12th Jan 19, 8:11 AM
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    Thanks PollyWollyDoodle, glad some of my ramblings made sense to someone at least!

    In relation to finding it difficult to let go of things, I too found this really hard as I've had it programmed in to me to be sentimental about almost anything. My mother is extreme on this and I hadn't appreciated how much she passed it on to me until I did Konmari and realised that much of my physical stuff that I wanted to get rid of had actually been given to me by my mother (sometimes as a kind gift but more often because she couldn't bear to throw it away) and that represented a harder emotional issue to face which was that she had burdened me with all kinds of broken mind programming that I had to escape to get happy in my own life (I'm nearly 50 so it's about bl**dy time!).

    Facing the difficulty of the stuff you actually have to put in the bin because there's nowhere else for it to go really is part of the process so you learn what's important, what not to bring in to your house and positively, how you really can survive and thrive without those things. Imagine how much stuff will be saved from future landfill by becoming a more conscious consumer.

    I think it's also important not to be too hard on yourself for decisions made when you didn't know better. Once you know better, you do better - I think that's one of Oprah's sayings and it's true.

    Gosh this is a big ramble but I just used old cardboard boxes, sometimes taking things out of a box to use the box (like the iPhone boxes PollyWollyDoodle mentioned) and also veg boxes - I use Riverford veg box scheme so get quite a few of these to make into storage boxes. I also bought a job lot of plastic food trays for food prepping that have three compartments - used these recently to sort my make up drawer, it looks fab.

    Taking a breath now x
    • star trek fan
    • By star trek fan 12th Jan 19, 8:48 AM
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    I read the book a year or so ago, and have just binge watched the Netflix series and am finally motivated. I know I'm not at this stage yet, but just wondering where people get boxes to organize small things like makeup, pens, batteries etc, the cheaper the better, but preferably not plastic. Thanks.
    Originally posted by mto
    I use the plastic boxes that come with takeaways, (I know you don't want plastic) but I've already got them and don't want to add to landfill. (Only get a takeaway for a special occasion.) The stuff then gets put away in drawers, not cluttering my surfaces and it doesn't matter that the boxes aren't pretty. Don't go out and buy extra storage boxes.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 12th Jan 19, 9:14 AM
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    Hello everyone

    Did a tip run yesterday and dropped an old chair to the chazzer. I did buy three painings whilst I was there, two for the lounge, one for the dining room.

    Now that my lounge and dining room have been de cluttered they really do me bring me joy. I love the feeling of light and space.

    Today it's my bedrooms turn. .
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    • tibawo
    • By tibawo 12th Jan 19, 11:48 AM
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    Cups - at a local Christmas market DD wanted to keep one rather than get the deposit back. she uses them for bits in her room so am fine with this.

    Next thing i know is a bag comes from my mums with all their Christmas market mugs going back years as she thought DD might want them. I think its hilarious as i put them in her room as I don't want them [they will go once I have stopped being childish!]
    After years of debt and living on the breadline feeling nothing but negative about myself, I am finally feeling that 2019 might be the year I actually get positive about it!
    • iamsalt
    • By iamsalt 12th Jan 19, 2:41 PM
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    Just a quick stop by as i have managed to call 3 companies to let them know the previous owner of the house doesnt live hereany more. The amount of post that still comes despite my sending it back was crazy so i have decided to call people. It should reduce the waste as well as me having to deal with it time and time afain.

    I spent a couple of hours digging over a bed outside getting rid of a number of weeds before the spring.

    I am managing to bring only what i want/need into the house as we move back in, there are several bags ready to go and also i know there are cupboards of cooking stuff that wont make it from the temporary home to our new house. It is such a luxury to do it as i go.

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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 12th Jan 19, 3:51 PM
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    I did a tip run and got rid of one shopper bag full of old light bulbs, bits of metal (screws, paperclips, etc), a pan, two tv screens, a blender. Hurray!

    I am still eating down the freezer. Today dds will have pizza from bought and frozen bases, with tomato sauce from the freezer, and some parmezan from freezer (wombled from a work lunch last year). I will have red cabbage from the freezer (it didn't taste wonderful first time round, so I will have to fix it a bit) with fish fingers. Weird combo, but I don't really mind and it empties the freezer a bit. I am very good at adding bits to the freezer, and at making jam from garden fruit, etc, but I'm not so good actually eating it.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 90,96 = £ 80.99
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 € 3.483,31 = £ 2,969.05
    • mto
    • By mto 12th Jan 19, 4:07 PM
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    Quick question ... do I clean before or after I declutter?
    • greent
    • By greent 12th Jan 19, 4:47 PM
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    Quick question ... do I clean before or after I declutter?
    Originally posted by mto
    Depends which is annoying you/ needing it more? I'd be inclined to declutter and then clean - in stages - so do my wardrobe etc (as per MK) and then clean that room. And then maintain cleaning in any decluttered/ cleaned areas whilst doing other categories


    Bag of clothes and several books sold today via facebook (yeay!) A huge empty cardboard box decluttered from loft into recycling. 3 items brought down for loft for hopefully selling. An unwanted food item taken to foodbank collection point. Torn PJs (DS2) into fabric recycling.

    Little by little...…
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 12th Jan 19, 5:03 PM
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    My office and sunroom have been painted today. Was panicking a bit as the lining paper ended up with some large bubbles behind it and we thought we'd have to strip it off and try again, however as it dried it's stuck back down again. So that's a win.


    A couple of small unusual kondo's recently, I took a mug with me to our fitness class as we've moved locations and the new one hasn't got washing up facilities for our tea break. I managed to leave it behind the first week and nobody else from the group picked it up. I could ask at the reception desk if anybody handed it in, but it was by no means a favourite, so I've decided to let the universe keep it.


    I went to a party before Christmas, wore a pair of shoes I haven't used for years. After a night of disco dancing, when I next picked them up I discovered the heels were parting company with the soles. So they've gone in the bin. Pity as they were actually more comfortable than my other black heels.
    • a_silver_lining
    • By a_silver_lining 13th Jan 19, 2:03 PM
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    Clothes done partner joined in and so two big bin bags of cloths to the charity shop yesterday, plus two smaller carrier bags full of items I had saved to sell and realised I wasn't going to (I've been intending on doing a carboot sale for a year now) and another bag in the bin.

    I not have four larger shopper bags of items to sell, so I may crack on with that today. Or stage 2 is books....
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 13th Jan 19, 3:00 PM
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    Clothes done partner joined in and so two big bin bags of cloths to the charity shop yesterday, plus two smaller carrier bags full of items I had saved to sell and realised I wasn't going to (I've been intending on doing a carboot sale for a year now) and another bag in the bin.

    I not have four larger shopper bags of items to sell, so I may crack on with that today. Or stage 2 is books....
    Originally posted by a_silver_lining
    Oh yes to the bit I've bolded. The amount of times I've added something to a bag or box thinking I'll carboot it and then a year or so later, have done so and spent 6 hours turning a two cubic meters of discards into £50 or less (pitchfee and petrol not factored in) and also brought the unsold three-quarters back home to form the nucleous of the next car boot sale pile - arrrghhh!


    Trouble is, I'm relatively poor and the allure of money is strong. Trouble also is, I have no car and have to rely on the one to two times a year I can organise to go with someone else in their car to make the sale even happen. The logistics are ridiculous and, I'm sure if I factored in the time, I'd be 'earning' 10p per hour.


    Your comment has proved the impetus towards a decision which has been in the pipeline for some time; to call enough on this foolish-to-my-circumstances habit. I shall not form a new carboot pile. When I am at the parental home, I will tackle the carboot pile left there. Things will be donated. It will get them into the hands of folks who can use them and my 'payment' will be emotional satisfaction and also living space regained.


    THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • whiteguineapig
    • By whiteguineapig 13th Jan 19, 3:27 PM
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    Grey Queen I agree, you couldn't pay me enough to do a boot sale
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 13th Jan 19, 3:31 PM
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    Grey Queen I agree, you couldn't pay me enough to do a boot sale
    Originally posted by whiteguineapig
    I used to be a carboot sale queen. I'm good at selling, or I was, and it was a supplement to my income about 20 odd years ago when I ran my little old car with the proceeds.


    Things have changed, both in my circumstances and also, I feel, at the carboots. Too many dealers aiming to buy stuff for 50p or less to take home and chuck up on The Bay for £££. Good luck to 'em but the genuine person who wanted something for their own use and was prepared to pay a handful of £££ is the customer I wanted.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 13th Jan 19, 3:36 PM
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    I just did the "spark joy" test on my wardrobe and added a cardigan, a jumper, a dress and some slightly scratchy pyjamas to a donation bag. My husband also donated some new pyjama bottoms he got for Christmas and a M&S jumper.

    There are two completely full bags to go off tomorrow now.
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 13th Jan 19, 4:01 PM
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    My church are now collecting stuff for the local foodbank. I don't know where it is located and am happy someone is willing to drop stuff off there. I had a small bag ready with lipton tea, noodle soup my dds insisted we buy and then did not like, and four bottles of unopened wombled shampoos (I have six more and don't really care for the smell, but it does its work). And then my eye fell ill and I didn't go to church this morning, and I win't go next week, either, as I'll just come back from York.

    The eye is probably eczema (I consulted dr g00gle, and those are the only pictures that resemble what my eye looks like; don't g00gle it for yourself, the images are hideous), and I'll visit the gp tomorrow to confirm.

    Just remembered: I have a church council meeting on Wednesday evening at the church, so I can take the bag then.

    Husband went to visit a griend and saw the bottles of shampoo. He took two to give to friend's wife (they're on benefits). ....just realised he could have taken the whole bag ..... never mind .....
    2019's wi-wa-wombles € 90,96 = £ 80.99
    Wombling to wealth 2018 € 972,97 = £ 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 € 7116,68 = £ 6309.50
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    • a_silver_lining
    • By a_silver_lining 13th Jan 19, 6:07 PM
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    Greyqueen, 100% agree with you. I hadn't realised how long I had held onto these bags of things until my partner pointed it out. I think I have removed all low profit items, and from yesterday's clothes clear out I only added four items to the sell pile.

    I was going to give myself until my birthday in March to sell it all, but my partner has said Feb mid term or she charity shops it! So taking pictures tonight. I'm going to try gumtree cheap, not eBay. My tech items I need to charge and clear data and then I will probably try a walk in pawn shop type place and try and get a tenner for the lot.

    like you I could use some cash... but I also know that a tidy home should encourage me not to buy wasteful items, so is moneysaving in its own way.

    Today I did books. This is not a big category as I was harsh in the past. Three books put in a new charity shop bag, along with two items a friend gave me as a gift yesterday, which I thanked for the joy thy gave to give and receive and wish them joy for someone in the future.

    I reallllly want to tackle papers tomorrow as I have a filing cabinet, two drawers and a few other hidey bits, but must get this gumtree up first I think.

    Oh and I bought a jumper yesterday in a thrift shop which takes up almost half of one of my wardrobe drawers! Thank goodness I cleared space.

    It's a hand knitted Aran wool jumper. I realised that I had taken one of my partners hoodies as a homewear jumper, but I don't feel like me or attractive in her hoodies, so I've put the hoodie back in her wardrobe and now have the squishiest wool jumper for when my currently being worn charity shop hand knitted chunky wool cardigan needs to be washed.

    I love chunky wool.
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    2019 1% challenge #18= 4.2%
    • tibawo
    • By tibawo 13th Jan 19, 6:09 PM
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    Totally agree with the car boot thing. I need the money and when I sell a car boot job lot for pennies, it can touch a nerve but then I remind myself by the time you factor in the other costs plus the benefit of stuff nothing coming home then the happy feeling of the extra space takes over.

    Must admit I can tell I have not being KD for a while as the 'i paid good money for that' is sneakily creeping into my mind set again. Time to reacquaint myself that feeling of 'you served me well' now go and help someone else!
    After years of debt and living on the breadline feeling nothing but negative about myself, I am finally feeling that 2019 might be the year I actually get positive about it!
    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 13th Jan 19, 6:16 PM
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    Hello all - been away for a while. From the thread and also on holiday. Unpacked my (small) suitcase and chucked everything in the wash today. even though I only take a cabin sized suitcase for a week, i still had about 5 items that were unworn.

    Also been sorting out the house (kids were left in it for the week - 'kids' being 22 and 19) and kondoing christmas cards... decorations have yet to be put in the loft, although they are all bagged and boxed up.

    slowly getting back to normal...

    Also one who just can't be !!!!!d to do a bootfair. Everything goes to the chazzer - the small amount of money I'd gain just doesn't seem worth it (though I appreciate other folks may be different).

    I've just kondoed the end of a bottle of gin....
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    You're hovering worriedly over your eggs, And I'm pondering trees
    I'm wandering long, And I'm pondering trees
    For you and me
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    • Moll
    • By Moll 13th Jan 19, 6:59 PM
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    Grey Queen I agree, you couldn't pay me enough to do a boot sale
    Originally posted by whiteguineapig

    Hello Whiteguineapig xx
    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 13th Jan 19, 7:23 PM
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    If I had saved everything I threw out from when I first started Kondoing, and sold it at a car boot sale ....

    I’d have lost several days of my life, driven myself mad waiting for the car boot season to start, and made less than £50.

    Even the CS didn’t make much on it; I have done a couple of boot sales with a friend who has no car, and the prices people want to pay are derisory. Unless you are very dedicated and organised, or have a special area of interest, I don’t think it’s worthwhile.

    Baby clothes and toys are the exception.
    "Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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