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    • J B
    • By J B 15th Jan 18, 7:35 AM
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    Wi-Fi repeaters without power?
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    • 15th Jan 18, 7:35 AM
    Wi-Fi repeaters without power? 15th Jan 18 at 7:35 AM
    Just briefly ..

    Major renovation project on 4 floors converting to apartments with a lift
    Phone line in the basement (for the lift) with a router to provide wi-fi to apartments

    Sparky has wired 'data cable' to all floors, so we can put wi-fi repeaters on each level, BUT he hasn't wired power next to where the the data cable comes out

    Is there a 'powerless' wi-fi repeater that we can use or do we need to get him to retro fit power??

    Each floor has a separate electric meter.

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    • J B
    • By J B 25th Jan 18, 6:50 PM
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    Looks like it.

    Note: the fact the ISP router has WiFi capability is irrelevant ... you'll be connecting an Ethernet port to the POE switch. In fact you might just turn off the WiFi on the router (unless the apartment(s) closest to the router will use that WiFi signal rather than a PoE wireless AP).
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Router will be in cellar.
    Lower apartment is 'duplex' (two storey) so I'm sort of hoping that between the cellar and the 1st floor, one AP and the original router will cover it

    ^^ This - exactly.
    And it is advisable to vlan each port off so that one appartment cant see devices in the other apartment.
    They effectively have their own wifi - which i guess is the end result that you are looking for.

    Come back when you have bought a switch (buy a managed one) and ill tell you how to do this
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    Thanks - much appreciated.
    It may be a month or two .... builders!! (raised eyebrow emoji)
    • J B
    • By J B 27th Jan 18, 10:14 AM
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    Any half decent managed PoE switch will have the ability to vlan them all off.


    One of these for example :-
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-Link-DGS-1100-08-8-Port-Gigabit-Smart-Managed-Switch-fanless-IGMP-snooping/371866560855?hash=item5694f96957:g:lVMAAOSwLF1X2TO c
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    One more question ... sorry

    You have linked to a '8 port'
    We need only 3 or 4 outlets and I see that D Link do a '5 port' - would that do?

    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 27th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
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    Is the 5-port one a managed switch? If yes then that'll be OK. If the price difference isn't significant then go for an 8-port one. That way you have spareage for expansion or if a port fails.
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    • J B
    • By J B 8th Mar 18, 8:52 PM
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    Come back when you have bought a switch (buy a managed one) and ill tell you how to do this
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    I'm back ... again!

    When I quizzed the sparky, he said "don't worry, we have a guy who can sort all that out for you"

    Now, our developer has come up with this ....

    Our electrician has e-mailed us a quote for the wi-fi install that was discussed. He doesn't do that work in house so employs a specialist to carry out works as and when required. His quote to supply and install Tenda N300 Wi-Fi access points 4 and TP-Link 8-port PoE switch, amounts to 357.01 excl v.a.t. Would you like us to proceed with this?

    we are vat registered so that's not an issue, but is the quote ok?
    All we currently have are wires dangling out of the wall without plugs on the end - I assume that the specialist would do all this??

    Any thoughts?
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 8th Mar 18, 10:06 PM
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    ~200 in materials, so 157 to fit. How long will it take? If the wiring is already there I'd not expect this to take long at all, so that looks like a hefty hourly rate.
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    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 8th Mar 18, 10:24 PM
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    ~200 in materials, so 157 to fit. How long will it take? If the wiring is already there I'd not expect this to take long at all, so that looks like a hefty hourly rate.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Yeah but the Builders add 20 admin for the change, the Sparky adds on 10 for his time , that brings it closer to ideal. The BIG problem I can see is that the Tendas only support 2.4 Ghz max 300 mbits no 802.11 ac which of course will soon to be superseded. I would just go for cat6 to each floor and and install 4 routers / aps

    Edited... Are the apartments going to have their own Phone lines ?
    Last edited by debitcardmayhem; 08-03-2018 at 10:28 PM.
    • J B
    • By J B 9th Mar 18, 10:01 AM
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    ~200 in materials, so 157 to fit. How long will it take? If the wiring is already there I'd not expect this to take long at all, so that looks like a hefty hourly rate.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Wiring there, but no 'plugs' on the end - just bare wires, I think.

    Edited... Are the apartments going to have their own Phone lines ?
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem
    Nope - phone in the basement for the lift (emergency call) and then FTTC for the apartments

    The BIG problem I can see is that the Tendas only support 2.4 Ghz max 300 mbits no 802.11 ac which of course will soon to be superseded.
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem
    What would you chose?

    I would just go for cat6 to each floor and and install 4 routers / aps
    ?
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem
    Cabling is already in - not sure which cat it is ...
    • Zandy_23
    • By Zandy_23 9th Mar 18, 11:35 AM
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    I'd rather use routers than repeaters for the simple fact that it's plug and play. Sure you would need cable but that assures stronger and stable connection than repeaters.
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