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    • slipsmckenzie
    • By slipsmckenzie 13th Jan 18, 4:19 AM
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    Expat Pension/Investing help
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    • 13th Jan 18, 4:19 AM
    Expat Pension/Investing help 13th Jan 18 at 4:19 AM
    Hi MSExperts!

    I am a UK citizen living overseas, and have been for almost 10 years. Having my finances/life in order, its now time to start planning for retirement (I'm currently 30). I live in China, and investing here is not an option.

    There are a couple of things I would to achieve -
    • Set up an investment portfolio - index funds and ETFs - relatively hands off and put money in it every month to passively invest over the next 20/30/40 or so years for retirement (wherever and whenever that may be)
    • Private Pension - also to plan for retirement. My work does not currently pay a pension.
    Are the two different, or can the index funds essentially be the pension? There seems to be no benefit to having a private pension overseas (no tax benefits and no employer contribution) so would the passive portfolio be the best option here?

    Secondly, being an expat its my understanding that I can't take advantage of ISA's, SIPPs etc. So would I have to set up an investment portfolio in an offshore account (thinking internaxx)?

    Edit: I have started voluntary NI contributions.

    If anyone has advice or experience of this that would be great. There seems to be a lot of 'financial consultants' getting in touch recently who want to 'help' me invest, but would prefer not to go down this path!

    Last edited by slipsmckenzie; 13-01-2018 at 4:46 AM. Reason: added NI info
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 13th Jan 18, 12:40 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:40 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:40 PM
    Don't accept "cold calls".

    Obtain expert, independent advice.

    You can research on the net. Example
    • bostonerimus
    • By bostonerimus 13th Jan 18, 2:20 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 2:20 PM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 2:20 PM
    Well done setting up the Voluntary NI, its a good move. I did that 30 years ago and I'm so glad that I did.
    One company that seems pretty legit is "The Fry Group". I talked to them a long time ago, but realized that being in the US they couldn't offer me much, but China might be different.
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    • slipsmckenzie
    • By slipsmckenzie 14th Jan 18, 12:45 AM
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    • 14th Jan 18, 12:45 AM
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    • 14th Jan 18, 12:45 AM
    Thank you for your answers. I will speak to an independent advisor about my options.
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