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    • Outsider_83
    • By Outsider_83 12th Jan 18, 8:27 PM
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    Renting Issues
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    • 12th Jan 18, 8:27 PM
    Renting Issues 12th Jan 18 at 8:27 PM
    Hi All,

    This is being posted on behalf of my Granddad and I am not sure what to advise him.

    He is retired and rented his house out for a number of years to a man on benefits, the first few years there were no issues, however last year and so far this year rent has fallen behind by over three months. The continual excuse seems to have been that their benefits have been frozen but it would be corrected soon. Recently my grandfather has contacted the benefit's office who have confirmed that benefits have never been frozen at any point and there should never have been any shortfall. Granddad was told he can get the payments sent to his own account instead as it appears the tenant has been stockpiling his housing benefits and they are due to leave within the next few weeks.

    My questions are as follows:

    1. Will the housing department allow the rent to be paid into his account? They have advised on the phone that they will but he is worried about tenant interference.

    2. How much of the missing rent can he expect to get and will the benefit's office be asking questions as to why rent was not being paid and instead stockpiled?

    3. With the tenant due to move (obviously my Granddad wants this) and the money potentially being diverted into his account, will this scupper their leaving?

    Any help would be good as I know very little of the Northern Ireland benefit's system.
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 13th Jan 18, 12:11 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:11 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:11 AM
    ....so far this year rent has fallen behind by over three months. The continual excuse seems to have been that their benefits have been frozen but it would be corrected soon. Recently my grandfather has contacted the benefit's office who have confirmed that benefits have never been frozen at any point and there should never have been any shortfall. Granddad was told he can get the payments sent to his own account instead as it appears the tenant has been stockpiling his housing benefits and they are due to leave within the next few weeks.

    My questions are as follows:

    1. Will the housing department allow the rent to be paid into his account? They have advised on the phone that they will but he is worried about tenant interference.
    yes but it's hardly worth it if the tenant is leaving. It will take time to set up I imagine.

    2. How much of the missing rent can he expect to get and will the benefit's office be asking questions as to why rent was not being paid and instead stockpiled?
    He won't get 'the missing rent'. That is in the pocket of the tenant.
    The benefits office won't care what the tenant has done with it. The tenant was entitled to claim, the BO paid out. End of story (from their point of view)

    3. With the tenant due to move (obviously my Granddad wants this) and the money potentially being diverted into his account, will this scupper their leaving?
    ??? Why should it?

    Any help would be good as I know very little of the Northern Ireland benefit's system.
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    Damn! If NI is different to England, ignore all the above!

    Butt I suspect it's the same.

    Is the tenant leavingg because he wants to? Has given notice? Or is grandad evicting? How sure is grandad that the tenant will move?

    Grandad could sue the tenant for the arrears, but if the tenant has no money (eg has drunk the rent) that won't help much......
    • Outsider_83
    • By Outsider_83 13th Jan 18, 12:25 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:25 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 12:25 AM
    Tenant is moving of their own volition.

    Speaking to the benefit's company, Granddad was told that if rent is more than six weeks in arrears then the payments can go directly to the Landlord.
    • Autumnella
    • By Autumnella 13th Jan 18, 8:33 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 8:33 AM
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    • 13th Jan 18, 8:33 AM
    If the tenant is moving in a few weeks by the time they sort out paying ths money directly to your grandfather the tenant will have moved out anyway. They're not going to pay the rent to your grandfather if the tenant no longer lives there.
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