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    • treecol
    • By treecol 11th Jan 18, 3:37 PM
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    Swimming pool
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    • 11th Jan 18, 3:37 PM
    Swimming pool 11th Jan 18 at 3:37 PM
    We are currently looking around as the house we wanted to buy has fallen through. We've found another we really like, but it has a big inground swimming pool. We have 13 grandchildren so in one way it could be useful. But the house has had a huge reduction of £75k since it went on the market in the summer. The owners won't disclose how much the pool costs to run, at the moment, which their agent agrees is not helpful. We also want to know how you would go about draining a pool? We can fill it in ourselves & are fully aware of the expense of that. It's the cost to drain it.
    Our estate agent says it's the pool that has devalued the house as they are trying to sell a property with one & so far no one wants it. What are your thoughts on a house with a pool & also any input as to overheads & emptying costs would be fab. Thank you in advance.
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    • aneary
    • By aneary 11th Jan 18, 3:43 PM
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    It depends if it's heated or not.

    My parents spend around £30 a year on chemicals and dad spends time cleaning it out during the summer months. The cleaning out means normally one day chucking the chemicals in, the next day scoping all the bits out after that it's just little bit each day. In the in winter it's covered with a winter cover.

    Other than that they have brought a new pump (around £200) a new liner (around £200), a winter cover and a summer cover. They have been in the house for 15 years and the pool is around 35 years old (going by when the parts for the original pump were stopped being made) so the expense isn't massive unless it's heated.

    Btw the water meter saved them a lot of money this house (with a pool) was cheaper on water than the previous smaller house (without a pool).
    • Eric_the_half_a_bee
    • By Eric_the_half_a_bee 11th Jan 18, 3:43 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 3:43 PM
    Check first that the pool can in fact be drained without damage. Some designs (e.g. vinyl liner) cannot and are never drained.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 11th Jan 18, 4:29 PM
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    There must surely be a plug you can pull out....?

    Or stick a hose in, suck on the other end to get water flowing, and drain it that way.
    • aneary
    • By aneary 11th Jan 18, 4:32 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:32 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:32 PM
    There must surely be a plug you can pull out....?

    Or stick a hose in, suck on the other end to get water flowing, and drain it that way.
    Originally posted by G_M
    This is a joke?
    • badger09
    • By badger09 11th Jan 18, 4:46 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:46 PM
    We have an above ground 24' x 12' pool which is mainly below ground. Don't ask

    Its almost 20 years old and in the 18 years we've been here, we've had to buy new winter & summer covers - total approx £200, filter and pump total approx £850 including fitting, and chemicals cost average £70 a year.

    Chemical costs are probably high as we have a farm opposite, so we have to counteract their fertiliser etc

    It is heated though we never heat it, and our water charges are still way below what they were before we moved here 18 years ago.

    I would never have one installed but my husband loves it - and looks after it, and it is great for grandchildren.
    • Slithery
    • By Slithery 11th Jan 18, 4:49 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:49 PM
    This is a joke?
    Originally posted by aneary
    Obviously you need to dig a hole deeper than the pool and stand in that first
    • Gers
    • By Gers 11th Jan 18, 5:23 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:23 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:23 PM
    Draining a pool - you need to check with the local water authority for that. They may require a staggered draining process in order to make sure the large volume of water can be accommodated and that their treatment works can cope.

    When I was but a callow girlie I worked in LA authority pools for extra money. Emptying of even the small pool needed planning and permission from the water authority. I!!!8217;ve no idea if there was a fee to pay for the draining.
    • Sandgrownun
    • By Sandgrownun 11th Jan 18, 6:06 PM
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    I have no idea of costs but just as a off topic suggestion, if any of your grandchildren like skateboarding/skating, and the pool has curved edges down to the bottom, then if you drained it you would have an amazing skating bowl!!
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 11th Jan 18, 6:36 PM
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    Could you make an enquiry to a pool installation company and find out an estimate of how much such a pool would cost to run? You could also ask about what happens if you'd need to drain it and such. Perhaps pose as a new customer asking 'we have 13 grandchildren, thinking of getting a pool as they'd love it and we enjoy swimming' etc. The company may be more obliging if they think they're going to get a sale rather than just a query on an existing pool.
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    • Loanranger
    • By Loanranger 11th Jan 18, 6:42 PM
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    We had swimming pool in a previous house and the trick is never to drain it, just keep the water clean with winter cover and the appropriate chemicals. If there are trees nearby, walk away from the house purchase. The roots will become a problem as will the leaves and debris in the autumn. You need to have it heated otherwise the water just isn't warm enough in this country.
    Doubtful if you'll get much use from it.
    • aneary
    • By aneary 11th Jan 18, 6:54 PM
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    My parents pool isn!!!8217;t heated we get a lot of use in the summer. Children don!!!8217;t seem to mind that it isn!!!8217;t heated.
    • bouicca21
    • By bouicca21 11th Jan 18, 7:15 PM
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    Id love a house with a pool. Heated though.
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 12th Jan 18, 6:27 AM
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    They are thinking of buying a house with a pool, not selling
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 12th Jan 18, 7:05 AM
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    A pool NEVER devalues a house. The real estate agent is just trying to get you to lower the price. A pool is a sign of luxury. You need to get a better real estate agent. Get that pool heated, ditch the agent and sell it for a solid price.
    Originally posted by EricTrustFund
    They are the buyers.
    • treecol
    • By treecol 12th Jan 18, 8:04 AM
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    Thank you all - so many answers! It is a heated pool, it has a big box of gadgets alongside the house that runs, heats & does all the stuff. We like the idea of a pool, we're just thinking ahead for when we would eventually downsize - would we have trouble selling. I will check with a few pool companies to get an idea of costs.
    I think the bottom line is if the vendor wants to sell, they will have to give us running costs - not much to ask. I did find a thread online from 2009 that said to heat a pool from April to October cost £600 a month back then. Yikes! Maybe we'll have to see how much solar would be/ Thanks all again.
    • Gabbs the Newt
    • By Gabbs the Newt 12th Jan 18, 8:10 AM
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    My grandparents got rid of theirs, this was indoor, in Germany, so a number of different variables, but it was costing them 500 Euro a month to heat, and this is going back about 10 years.
    • googler
    • By googler 12th Jan 18, 8:22 AM
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    Perhaps pose as a new customer asking 'we have 13 grandchildren, thinking of getting a pool as they'd love it and we enjoy swimming' etc. The company may be more obliging if they think they're going to get a sale rather than just a query on an existing pool.
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    Do not do this. It wastes the company and staff time on false pretence.

    Be honest with them.
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 12th Jan 18, 8:30 AM
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    I would never entertain buying a house with a pool unless its price was sufficiently low that I could have the pool removed and all traces of it obliterated for the amount saved off the 'non-pool' price.


    Nothing says 'chavtastic' more than a pool in the back garden of an otherwise regular suburban property.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Jan 18, 10:16 AM
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    At 5lb 3oz, the biggest trout I ever caught was from an ex-swimming pool.

    Tub of fry from a farm, a few bags of pellets and, hey presto, part time business, or just a nice source of protein for the barbie.

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