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    • bobby121
    • By bobby121 10th Jan 18, 7:33 PM
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    Mersey gateway bridge???
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    • 10th Jan 18, 7:33 PM
    Mersey gateway bridge??? 10th Jan 18 at 7:33 PM
    I drove over a bridge that had a toll for £2 twice while dropping someone off at liverpool airport, and then returning home to manchester..
    I went that way only following my sat nav.
    I didnt actually know utill now that theres was a toll ( i woulndnt have known the bridge was new or not!)
    however I have had a letter giving me a penalty. and saying i now owe £44 which will increase in 14 days..
    I know its not a lot of money but Im frustrated.
    Im being penalized for not noticing signs in the dark while travelling 50mph in showery rain..
    Does anyone have any experience of this?
    I dont think this is acceptable yet i feel compelled to pay because the longer i leave it, the bigger and bigger it will become...
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    • bobby121
    • By bobby121 10th Jan 18, 7:57 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 7:57 PM
    i just think before your accused of not paying a bill and being penalised,
    i should be given a bill
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 10th Jan 18, 8:10 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:10 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:10 PM
    You might be able to overturn a toll penalty by phoning them. There have been reports of the Dartford Crossing waiving penalties for first time offenders who had no idea, and are happy to pay just the toll fee. All done by phone.

    Try it, and let us know.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
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    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
    You might be able to overturn a toll penalty by phoning them. There have been reports of the Dartford Crossing waiving penalties for first time offenders who had no idea, and are happy to pay just the toll fee. All done by phone.

    Try it, and let us know.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Too late, they've already announced that the honeymoon period is over
    • bobby121
    • By bobby121 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:26 PM
    i rang them earlier.
    i was told by the person i spoke to that he was unable to do anything to reduce the amount
    i may try again tomorrow
    • bobby121
    • By bobby121 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:32 PM
    somone knock on your door and tells you that your in debt to them for £50.
    you ask why and they say that u turned round in their drive and they charge £2 for the priveledge.
    you say "fair enough. . so how come its £50
    and they say "well you didnt pay within the hour
    its remonds me of the documentary on the underground crime world i saw recently!!
    scary
    i think people pay cus they dont want things to keep growing so they give in and the bullies win
    • Tigsteroonie
    • By Tigsteroonie 10th Jan 18, 8:36 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:36 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:36 PM
    On the bright side, you've got a very good satnav if it's updated already to include the new bridge ... Maybe investigate the settings on said satnav to see if there is an option to "avoid toll roads" so that you don't get caught this way again.
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 10th Jan 18, 8:37 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:37 PM
    thats about 5 seconds more than your replies are worth.
    Originally posted by bobby121
    Don’t understand that? Care to explain?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 10th Jan 18, 8:45 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 8:45 PM
    Don’t understand that? Care to explain?
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    I have now removed any posts and links that were made to the OP inc the one that ridiculed his "you say "fair enough. . so how come its £50
    and they say "well you didnt pay within the hour
    and £44 charge

    on there website they clearly state "If you have not paid the toll in full by midnight the day after you cross the new Mersey Gateway Bridge,

    and "The penalty charge of £40 will be reduced to £20 if you pay within 14 days of the date of service of the penalty charge notice. You must also pay the outstanding toll. The Penalty Charge Certificate will give you details on how to pay the penalty charge and outstanding toll"


    but hay ho , the OP knows better ,,,,,,,,,,,,
    • bobby121
    • By bobby121 10th Jan 18, 9:12 PM
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    thanks mr golf.
    i must have missed that info on their website when i was driving over the bridge..!!
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 10th Jan 18, 9:15 PM
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    somone knock on your door and tells you that your in debt to them for £50.
    you ask why and they say that u turned round in their drive and they charge £2 for the priveledge.
    you say "fair enough. . so how come its £50
    and they say "well you didnt pay within the hour
    its remonds me of the documentary on the underground crime world i saw recently!!
    scary
    i think people pay cus they dont want things to keep growing so they give in and the bullies win
    Originally posted by bobby121
    But this is exactly what the forum is all about. We know, we agree.

    You misunderstood some replies as being against you, when we are for the motorist against such penalties.

    I would ring again and hope for another clerk...
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 10th Jan 18, 9:18 PM
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    CM , you read the bylaws for this place yet? interesting
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 10th Jan 18, 9:21 PM
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    No, are they riveting? Will I ever get those minutes back though?!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 10th Jan 18, 9:26 PM
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    probably not ,,,,,,,,,,,,, remember its liverpool /vcs land
    • esmerobbo
    • By esmerobbo 11th Jan 18, 5:36 AM
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    probably not ,,,,,,,,,,,,, remember its liverpool /vcs land
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    Since when was the Borough of Halton, or the towns of Widnes, Runcorn in Liverpool? It is not even in Merseyside.

    Nothing to do with us!

    The payment method is confusing and not good, but I cant see how anyone can miss the signs informing you it is tolled at first they were possible to miss but not now there are also signs telling you of the last exit you can use before the bridge tolls.

    The roads on the Runcorn side are still a bit confusing as they are not finished but the signs are there to see.

    I believe there should be a lay by either side of the bridge allowing you to pay at a booth.

    http://l450v.alamy.com/450v/kf5fwk/mersey-gateway-toll-bridge-approach-road-with-traffic-heading-to-and-kf5fwk.jpg
    Last edited by esmerobbo; 11-01-2018 at 5:47 AM.
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 11th Jan 18, 9:48 AM
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    From the M56 end there are two large signs with the toll rates for each class of vehicle and two signs telling you to pay online at Merseyflow

    As said, the last exit before bridge byelaws kick in is also signposted.

    I fail to see how somebody can miss 4 signs.
    • Calverley
    • By Calverley 10th Feb 18, 6:02 AM
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    If you accidentally through bad road signs. Put your car in one way system, but quickly get out of situation, is it right for Road worker to photograph your registration and report to police
    • esmerobbo
    • By esmerobbo 10th Feb 18, 6:19 AM
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    Was this on the bridge or the approach?

    There is nothing stopping someone taking a photo of your car and reporting it to the police, it would depend on the circumstances if the police took an interest.

    Care to expand?
    Last edited by esmerobbo; 10-02-2018 at 6:23 AM.
    • Ste_nova
    • By Ste_nova 10th Feb 18, 9:19 PM
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    I!!!8217;ve seen posts on Facebook of people getting it cancelled by saying signage isn!!!8217;t good enough about how to pay
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 10th Feb 18, 9:30 PM
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    Going toward Liverpool there are 2 signs saying pay online at merseyflow plus on the bridge itself there is a matrix sign saying the same. Similar in the opposite direction

    Sounds like there are some people who are Specsavers candidates.
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