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    • LillyLisa
    • By LillyLisa 10th Jan 18, 3:05 PM
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    Do things really go out of date really quickly once opened?
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    • 10th Jan 18, 3:05 PM
    Do things really go out of date really quickly once opened? 10th Jan 18 at 3:05 PM
    I am a student so everything I cook is just for me and I'm finding it difficult to not waste food and save money!
    I already cook meals (curry, tart, pasta bake, stew, pasta sauce etc.) and freeze them to eat for about 4 different meals which saves me money and time (I try to have at least 4 different options frozen and ready to defrost and heat up at a time so it's not always the same as well).
    The problem I'm having is with breakfasts and lunches... bread doesn't last that long (and I don't have room to freeze it and my evening meals), milk goes out of date after 3 days of opening, juice in 4 days, wraps in 24 hours, most meats in 24-48 hours... Do I really have to stick with this? I'm so confused
    Like, I just used 2 wraps and have 6 left that need to be used within the next 24 hours... that's just not going to happen.. so am j really going to have to just throw them away?
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    • ariba10
    • By ariba10 10th Jan 18, 3:21 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 3:21 PM
    I was lucky enough to be brought up at a time before "Use by" or "Best before" dates were thought of.

    I rely on my eyes and nose.

    I was in a supermarket a week ago and they were selling bagged potatoes with a use by eight days later.
    I used to be indecisive but now I am not sure.
    • Eric_the_half_a_bee
    • By Eric_the_half_a_bee 10th Jan 18, 3:26 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 3:26 PM
    bread doesn't last that long (and I don't have room to freeze it and my evening meals), milk goes out of date after 3 days of opening, juice in 4 days, wraps in 24 hours, most meats in 24-48 hours...
    They all last much longer than this if kept in a fridge
    • sarah1972
    • By sarah1972 10th Jan 18, 3:27 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 3:27 PM
    I am a student so everything I cook is just for me and I'm finding it difficult to not waste food and save money!
    I already cook meals (curry, tart, pasta bake, stew, pasta sauce etc.) and freeze them to eat for about 4 different meals which saves me money and time (I try to have at least 4 different options frozen and ready to defrost and heat up at a time so it's not always the same as well).
    The problem I'm having is with breakfasts and lunches... bread doesn't last that long (and I don't have room to freeze it and my evening meals), milk goes out of date after 3 days of opening, juice in 4 days, wraps in 24 hours, most meats in 24-48 hours... Do I really have to stick with this? I'm so confused
    Like, I just used 2 wraps and have 6 left that need to be used within the next 24 hours... that's just not going to happen.. so am j really going to have to just throw them away?
    Originally posted by LillyLisa
    Bread should last the week (mine does)
    Milk goes at least 4 days after the date on the carton.
    Never seen meat with 2 days life on it, I get my shopping on a Thursday and all of my meat has dates into the following week on them.
    Wraps last a week as long as they are tightly wrapped after you have opened the packet.
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    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 10th Jan 18, 3:40 PM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 3:40 PM
    They all last much longer than this if kept in a fridge
    Originally posted by Eric_the_half_a_bee
    Except the bread. That will go off faster in the fridge. Just ensure it is resealed and stored in a cool place.
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    • By CommitedToChange 10th Jan 18, 3:51 PM
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    " milk goes out of date after 3 days of opening, juice in 4 days, wraps in 24 hours, most meats in 24-48 hours."

    Where have you read this nonsense?

    Milk is in date until the date on the label regardless of when you open in as long as it's in the fridge - and often a few days after, just use your nose.

    Wraps last at least a week if tightly rewrapped - often longer. They've gone off when's hard or mouldy. Same for bread. You can also freeze both.

    Meats are in date until their use by date regardless of when you open them - just cling film them to keep fresh. If it's hit it's use by date cook it - then you get a few more days or split up larger packs and freeze some (well labelled) for another time.

    Main thing is to check dates before buying to make sure they have a long date on them.

    Also check out the old style board here for ideas for left overs etc.
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    • redfox
    • By redfox 10th Jan 18, 4:55 PM
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    • Eric_the_half_a_bee
    • By Eric_the_half_a_bee 10th Jan 18, 4:58 PM
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    Except the bread. That will go off faster in the fridge.
    Originally posted by Carrot007
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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 10th Jan 18, 5:00 PM
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    You've not said by which measure these things aren't able to be eaten.

    Because the packet says so?
    Because they've gone green/you've tried them?

    There will be answers and work rounds available to you but you need to take each item one by one and analyse what's going on. Are you buying stuff with dates too close to the purchase date? Or over-buying and not getting round to those items for awhile? How do you store the item once opened/can you do that differently/better? Do you "believe" the date on the packet absolutely? Could you buy something similar instead that fares better? Can you store things differently to extend their life?

    At the moment your question is too broad for you to get answers and nail it.
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 10th Jan 18, 5:46 PM
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    I'm using a loaf opened Saturday and it's still soft and no mould spots. It will do me till Saturday no problem

    Packet of cooked ham opened Monday is still in use and will be till its used up

    Wraps I seriously don't think they ever go off. I had an open packet in the larder for a month and they were still edible

    Milk is also open for a week or more. Only gets thrown when it curdles


    Are you reading the ' once open use within X amount of days' instruction by chance?

    That's there for supermarkets. You throw away perfectly good food and go buy more which keep the tills filling.

    Best before date means the food is at its best. It's still perfectly edible after that date but say as in a cake, it may start to be going dry

    Sell by, that's for the supermarkets stock control. Means nothing other then you may get lucky and buy it yellow stickered on the sell by date

    Use by, that's the only date you need to worry about. Us older generation still prefer the sniff and taste test but food agencies do say ignore that date at your peril. I've not died from ignoring it

    Fruit/veg/raw meat/fish don't suddenly become poisonous at the stroke of midnight on a date selected by the supermarkets
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    • CRANKY40
    • By CRANKY40 10th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
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    There's two ways of dealing with the milk depending on your usage. If you have one or two hot drinks a day then buy a 1 pint carton and freeze it when you buy it. Once frozen, put it back in the fridge. It will defrost slowly, giving you enough milk for a couple of drinks a day and last for ages. If you use more than that - cereal, multiple drinks then it's worth buying a large carton of filtered milk. I'm currently using B.O.B. It lasts until we finish it and we use about 4-5 hot drinks worth a day.
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 10th Jan 18, 6:47 PM
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    There's two ways of dealing with the milk depending on your usage. If you have one or two hot drinks a day then buy a 1 pint carton and freeze it when you buy it. Once frozen, put it back in the fridge. It will defrost slowly, giving you enough milk for a couple of drinks a day and last for ages. If you use more than that - cereal, multiple drinks then it's worth buying a large carton of filtered milk. I'm currently using B.O.B. It lasts until we finish it and we use about 4-5 hot drinks worth a day.
    Originally posted by CRANKY40
    You could also freeze milk in ice cube trays and defrost a cube or two when you need them for hot drinks.
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    • Linda32
    • By Linda32 10th Jan 18, 8:35 PM
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    Like, I just used 2 wraps and have 6 left that need to be used within the next 24 hours... that's just not going to happen.. so am j really going to have to just throw them away?
    Originally posted by LillyLisa
    We freeze ours. A sheet of greaseproof between each wrap (you re-use the greaseproof for the next packet) Take out one when you want one. They take about 2 minutes to defrost.
    • Rosemary7391
    • By Rosemary7391 11th Jan 18, 9:53 AM
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    I found bread to be a problem so I have crispbreads like Ryvita instead - they last longer.
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    • wort
    • By wort 11th Jan 18, 10:08 AM
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    I'm on my own and always buy a 4 pint milk, it lasts well, and I freeze the second bottle if I have to buy the offer to get it for a pound.
    Bread a loaf lasts me a week. I have 2 slices a day , but you could split it and freeze a few slice for later in the week.
    Things like sauces, once open in the fridge, I just look if they aren't mouldy I use them.
    I also use cheese spread which according to the carton says use within 3 days. Mine lasts till its all gone, never had to throw away.
    Veg is best bought loose if you can so just enough carrots or sprouts to use up. But even then I would use them up in soup or stew even when bendy.!
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    • ben501
    • By ben501 11th Jan 18, 10:14 AM
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    Mostly repeating what others have said, but I get a six pint carton of milk and it always lasts a full 7 days, and that's from the day I open it which may not be until 2 or 3 days after I buy it. Just check the carton when you buy it & make sure it's got a good date (10 days forward is often possible in bigger shops).

    Juice, I buy a 2 litre carton and it's okay for the 14 days it takes me to use it.

    Can't comment on the rest as I have a chest freezer so room for most stuff. (A great investment if you've got the space & money for one)
    • Bogof_Babe
    • By Bogof_Babe 11th Jan 18, 10:21 AM
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    Packs of cheese say "use within 3 days of opening" but we still use them 2-3 weeks later, and unless there is visible deterioration we don't worry. Sometimes the edges get a bit dried out so we cut them off. Packs of grated cheese do go off quicker unless really well re-sealed to keep the air out.

    Also although it doesn't say freezable on blocks of cheese we have done so without any ill effects.
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    • By NineDeuce 11th Jan 18, 10:23 AM
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    Brexit promises certainly went out of date once the referendum result came in....
    • JackieO
    • By JackieO 11th Jan 18, 10:24 AM
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    I don't eat bread although I used to I would freeze it if possible ,or buy smaller loafs Unless it in a humid kitchen it will normally keep, and goes dry and hard before it gets mouldy.
    Cheese (I grew up with wartime rationing ) so we would cut of the mould and eat the cheese (rarely did it have time to get mould on it as the rations were very small anyway ) I am in my 70s now and my nose is my guide not a date on a packet I have eaten stuff thats out of date and survived There is no waste in my house and never has been.a best before date on an item doesn't mean its going to explode at two minutes past midnight on that day ,and neither will you
    Use both your nose, and your common sense. You are doing well living on a budget (I have a grandson at Norwich in the same position ) and don't believe half of the rubbish written about dates Meat is obviously something you treat with care and storing it sensibly in the fridge or freezer will extend its life ,again use you nose. I don't use fresh milk as living alone I found I was not using as much as I had bought and switched to UHT milk a couple of years ago So far I have never had it go off and a carton does me for a week for drinks etc As I am a widow living alone a four pint jug would last for ever I am happy to have a 49p litre of UHT milk and cannot tell the difference at all. Good luck with your studies by the way and well done on looking after yourself so well.

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    • Ilona
    • By Ilona 11th Jan 18, 10:30 AM
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    Short answer to your question, no they don't. I bought a load of yellow sticker food on Tuesday night, it went out of date at midnight. I will still be eating some of it a week, maybe two weeks later. The secret is to check the contents of your fridge twice daily, plan your meals by what needs eating first. As above has said, use your eyes, does it look mouldy - wilting- manky? Sniff it, is is whiffy, smell off? Touch it, is is squidgy, mushy?

    Buy food with a longer date on, reach to the back of the shelving, chiller cabinet for the newer stuff at the back.

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