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    • shafj
    • By shafj 9th Jan 18, 4:45 PM
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    Help with Council Tax Baliffs
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    • 9th Jan 18, 4:45 PM
    Help with Council Tax Baliffs 9th Jan 18 at 4:45 PM
    Could anyone help me please. I had some trouble paying the council tax. The matter went to baliffs for the total amount of 319.42. I managed to set up a plan with them for 50 a month and was making payments but I forgot to make a payment for December.

    I then received the letter through the post https ://ibb.co/ffVBZ6. Can anyone help me on what to do?

    Also I do not know why they increased it to 404.42.
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    • Arleen
    • By Arleen 9th Jan 18, 4:50 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 4:50 PM
    The sum likely went up because it went to enforcement, they should've provided you with a breakdown, you can still request one.

    So you signed control of good agreement before? Reality is that they don't want to take the goods, its no a good resolution for anyone, so call them and try to negotiate another payment plan. But be prepared that they will want more than before, at least half of what you still owe. If you won't call, they can come and take the goods away.
    • shafj
    • By shafj 9th Jan 18, 5:25 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 5:25 PM
    I did not sign anything. Just set up a payment over the phone.
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    • 9th Jan 18, 5:32 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 5:32 PM
    Hi shafj


    I haven't been able to view the link, can you tell us briefly what the letter says?


    The bailiff is allowed to charge a 75 compliance fee as soon as the debt is passed to them by the council. Are you sure the debt has increased by 85 and not 75? They can also add a 235 enforcement fee (plus 7.5% of anything owed over 1500) on their first visit. They can't visit until they have sent you an enforcement notice giving you 7 days notice. You can ask the bailiff for a breakdown to clarify the situation.


    It's best to keep your doors locked and car hidden. The bailiff can't force entry if there is no controlled goods agreement. You can find more information on council tax bailiff's powers here https://www.nationaldebtline.org/EW/factsheets/Pages/council-tax-recovery/counciltaxdebt.aspx.


    You should now use a statement of affairs (SOA) to make a new offer of payment to the bailiff. Council tax must be prioritised so if you have other debts it is going to be a good idea to get more advice from one of the free advice agencies.


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    We work as money advisers for National Debtline and have specific permission from MSE to post to try to help those in debt. Read more information on National Debtline in MSE's Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help guide. If you find you're struggling with debt and need further help try our online advice tool My Money Steps
    • shafj
    • By shafj 9th Jan 18, 5:49 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 5:49 PM
    So I already made 3 payments of 50 for a total of 150.

    The link should work if you remove the space after the https bit (I wasn't allowed to post a link for some reason).

    https ://ibb.co/ffVBZ6

    The letter says Attendance Notice to take Control of Goods.

    Also I can't remember and I am not sure but I think that they sent an enforcement notice before I set the plan up and made 3 payments. Can they add on 235 with sending another enforcement notice? It has been more than 3 months.
    • Arleen
    • By Arleen 9th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
    For now, you need to set up a new payment plan, call them now, may still catch them on the phone. The rest can wait for after, including dispute of the sum.
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    • By CIS 9th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
    So I already made 3 payments of 50 for a total of 150.

    The link should work if you remove the space after the https bit (I wasn't allowed to post a link for some reason).

    https ://ibb.co/ffVBZ6

    The letter says Attendance Notice to take Control of Goods.

    Also I can't remember and I am not sure but I think that they sent an enforcement notice before I set the plan up and made 3 payments. Can they add on 235 with sending another enforcement notice? It has been more than 3 months.
    Originally posted by shafj
    They don't need to contact you again before attendance with the intention of removing goods (and incurring the 235).
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a self employed Council Tax specialist. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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    • 10th Jan 18, 11:37 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 11:37 AM
    So I already made 3 payments of 50 for a total of 150.

    The link should work if you remove the space after the https bit (I wasn't allowed to post a link for some reason).

    https ://ibb.co/ffVBZ6

    The letter says Attendance Notice to take Control of Goods.

    Also I can't remember and I am not sure but I think that they sent an enforcement notice before I set the plan up and made 3 payments. Can they add on 235 with sending another enforcement notice? It has been more than 3 months.
    Originally posted by shafj

    Hi again shafj


    An enforcement notice only needs to be sent once. If you have defaulted on the payment plan the bailiff can now visit to try and remove goods. That's why you need to keep your doors locked and car hidden. If this will be the bailiffs first visit to try and remove goods they will be able to add the 235 enforcement fee.


    You can try and contact the bailiff to set up a new payment plan and avoid the visit, but they're unlikely to agree as you previously defaulted. If that's the case it's important you send your SOA to the bailiff company with your offer of payment as it shows you are trying to negotiate. Try to go ahead and make your payment regardless, you can usually do that via the bailiff's website or automated telephone line.


    Susie
    @natdebtline
    We work as money advisers for National Debtline and have specific permission from MSE to post to try to help those in debt. Read more information on National Debtline in MSE's Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help guide. If you find you're struggling with debt and need further help try our online advice tool My Money Steps
    • shafj
    • By shafj 11th Jan 18, 2:44 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 2:44 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 2:44 PM
    what if I was to borrow the money and pay it all off minus the 235 fee? Would that work as they haven't been inside, and neither have I spoken to them face to face
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