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    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 8th Jan 18, 1:42 PM
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    Help needed for pcn and popla appeal thats been on hold for 2.5 years
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    • 8th Jan 18, 1:42 PM
    Help needed for pcn and popla appeal thats been on hold for 2.5 years 8th Jan 18 at 1:42 PM
    Hi
    I had a PCN in July 2015 from Park Direct UK. A fine for stopping 2 mins and 6 seconds!!!!!. I appealed this with them. It was rejected so I appealed it through POPLA in July 2015. I received a confirmation from POPLA. I chased it regularly as it said this should only take two weeks. In October 2015 I emailed Popla who emailed back to say its on hold for now and also Park Direct UK had failed to send any evidence to them in support. Up until now I have had no correspondence from them. However today I have got a debt recovery letter from DRP to say we need to pay up or they will send someone round to collect it. I phoned POPLA who said they are now a different company and it changed in Ocober 2015 and all my original paperwork cant be found. They suggested calling Right Hassle Solicitors as they both shared taking over cases when the system changes came in but they have no details of this either So my question is what do I do now? I did all things I was supposed to do and its 2.5 years later and its stared again. I have copies of all my paperwork. Has anyone got any ideas what I should do??????
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 8th Jan 18, 2:28 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:28 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:28 PM
    Never ever 'phone anyone.

    Ignore debt collectors. The NEWBIES thread specifically explains why it is safe to do so. They can't come to your door, and they are lying if they say otherwise.

    Complain to the DVLA (David Dunford) and the BPA (Steve Clarke) that you are being harassed for a parking charge (it is not a fine) that was submitted to PoPLA over two years ago and you assumed therefore that this had been cancelled as you have never heard from PoPLA or the parking scammers since.
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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 8th Jan 18, 2:30 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:30 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:30 PM
    Well for a start you didn't get a fine, it was an invoice, and as this period falls within grace periods it would be thrown out anyway.

    All over this forum it tells you to ignore debt collectors who are powerless and will not turn up on your doorstep.

    You could try a firm complaint to the BPA as this is totally out of order and really partly their problem by changing POPLA assessors.

    Though I doubt you will get anywhere as the scammers at PD changed to the IPC in 2016, sounds like DRP are just mopping up old cases, though did they really threaten to call round as that's naughty?
    Last edited by fisherjim; 08-01-2018 at 2:31 PM. Reason: Dupicated for what it's worth, why do OP's do multiple threads?
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 8th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:55 PM
    You could try a firm complaint to the BPA as this is totally out of order and really partly their problem by changing POPLA assessors.
    Seem to recall that old POPLA passed on the remaining paperwork to the BPA as it was "owned" by them. Your appeal may be with the BPA so a quick email to aos@britishparking.co.uk may yield a copy or confirmation it was received by old POPLA,
    Idiots please note: If you intend NOT to read the information on the Notice of Allocation and hand a simple win to the knuckle dragging ex-clampers, then don't waste people's time with questions on a claim you'll not defend.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Jan 18, 1:19 AM
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    • #5
    • 9th Jan 18, 1:19 AM
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    • 9th Jan 18, 1:19 AM
    However today I have got a debt recovery letter from DRP to say we need to pay up or they will send someone round to collect it.
    No they didn't.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 10th Jan 18, 10:22 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:22 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:22 AM
    Hi Thank you for your responses. On double checking it says they could call round if I dont pay, or they will recommend to their clients (Park Direct UK) to go to court. All in all a pain! Do you think I should ignore this now or do something about it? The newvies thread suggests just to ignore it. Any extra help on this will be appreciated.
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 10th Jan 18, 10:37 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:37 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:37 AM
    Any extra help on this will be appreciated.
    Suggest you read the Newbies thread again or at least until you understand the meaning of "ignore this".
    Idiots please note: If you intend NOT to read the information on the Notice of Allocation and hand a simple win to the knuckle dragging ex-clampers, then don't waste people's time with questions on a claim you'll not defend.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 10th Jan 18, 10:47 AM
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    • #8
    • 10th Jan 18, 10:47 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:47 AM
    today I have got a debt recovery letter from DRP to say we need to pay up or they will send someone round to collect

    Did they really say that, those exact words? If so, complain in the strongest terms in writing to your local Trading Standards Department.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 10th Jan 18, 10:51 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:51 AM
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    • 10th Jan 18, 10:51 AM
    OK Thank you for all your help guys im going to ignore them as recommended as Ive still got all my paperwork etc about my appeal so in fact if they do go to court it should be quite enjoyable! If they come round ill ignore them too!!
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 10th Jan 18, 10:55 AM
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    They wont come around.
    DRP lie. Repeatedly.
    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 10th Jan 18, 10:58 AM
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    I gathered that! I wonder how many get to court lol!!:
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 10th Jan 18, 11:06 AM
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    DR+ are members of the BPA and should be upholding BPA standards (sorry)

    misleading customers by threatening to call round and try to collect monies for a non enforced invoice , falls way below BPA standards

    perhaps informing the BPA of there letter may assist you (in mind)
    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 23rd Jan 18, 4:13 PM
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    Hi guys, just a thought. Do you know how many of these actually go to court? And as it was June 2015 and I did do the appeal through popla (I have all the paperwork) and it!!!8217;s not my fault nether park direct or popla just didn!!!8217;t respond after October 2015 are they still legally allowed to take me to court? Just wondered what my rights were?
    • waamo
    • By waamo 23rd Jan 18, 4:25 PM
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    Park direct rarely go to court

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Park_Direct_UK.html

    As above complain to the BPA
    This space for hire.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 23rd Jan 18, 4:26 PM
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    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Park_Direct_UK.html
    • Redx
    • By Redx 23rd Jan 18, 4:27 PM
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    like mentioned above , it is rare for this company but thousands go to court per annum , usually from the main players

    a PPC has 6 years to take a matter to court , where a judge will decide the outcome
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 23rd Jan 18, 7:35 PM
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    Complain to the BPA and ask that they obtain proof from WH, as to the POPLA outcome.

    PDUK are no longer in the BPA so it makes it harder, but the BPA 'provided' POPLA and are guilty of the awful, diabolical and anti-consumer decision to allow WH (of all people) to ''pretend they were POPLA'' for a few months, where almost everyone lost and WH actually prompted PPCs to provide missing evidence! It was an embarrassment, and should NEVER have been allowed.

    BPA email is in a post in the NEWBIES thread, post #5 I think...

    Say in the email that you know PD are not in the BPA any more but that your complaint is about POPLA never giving you an outcome and, if it was WH, then you require the BPA to go and find the so-called 'decision' and let you have a copy.

    Give the POPLA number from way back when, to the BPA and if they fob you off, reply AGAIN, and AGAIN.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 23-01-2018 at 7:41 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Melinda A
    • By Melinda A 23rd Jan 18, 8:25 PM
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    Ok thank you. Who are WH? And what should I say? Not the Long appeal originally I assume? Just to say what!!!8217;s happened? The last communication I had from a Popla was to say the case was on !!!8216;hold!!!8217; and also park direct had not submitted any evidence despite popla asking them to. Is that good news for me? Presumably BPA won!!!8217;t be too interested........not sure what I!!!8217;m asking them to do really?? Sorry to be an idiot it!!!8217;s all weird to me!!
    • Redx
    • By Redx 23rd Jan 18, 8:33 PM
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    WH = Wright Hassall , the solicitors that the BPA engaged to sort out the outstanding POPLA appeals once London Councils lost the contract to the Ombudsman Service
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 23rd Jan 18, 9:08 PM
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    WH = Wright Hassall , the solicitors that the BPA engaged to sort out the outstanding POPLA appeals once London Councils lost the contract to the Ombudsman Service
    Originally posted by Redx
    Also known in this manor as WHOPLA. Do a forum search.
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