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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 12:00 PM
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    State Pension Invitation Application
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    • 8th Jan 18, 12:00 PM
    State Pension Invitation Application 8th Jan 18 at 12:00 PM
    O.k.....Today I have received the letter inviting me to apply for the state pension, and have duly filled in the said application online.....I know someone who did the same, and then never heard anymore from DWP, it was only by chance that he rang them about something else that actually started the ball rolling.....the thing is, can I check that DWP has actually received my application ?....if so, how?........Jack.
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    • greenglide
    • By greenglide 8th Jan 18, 1:26 PM
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    No, I don't think you can.

    I assume you received a confirmation email of you application?

    If you have applied well in advance they do not normally do anything about the application until a few weeks before you SPa date.

    So just needs patience and keeping you fingers crossed!

    The design of the online application process leaves a lot to be desired but DWP have never taken it paticularly seriously and government never provides the money to properly develop these things.
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 2:23 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:23 PM
    That's the thing.....no confirmation e-mail......the guy I refer to did the same, and then waited, and waited, and......when he eventually rang DWP they denied ever receiving his application......it all just seems rather sloppy........Jack
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    • le loup
    • By le loup 8th Jan 18, 2:27 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:27 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:27 PM
    We've all heard stories of someone where something goes wrong. There are about 500,000 people who start drawing their pension each year - why do you think yours is going to go wrong?
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 2:36 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 2:36 PM
    I don't.....but some sort of confirmation would surely be possible.......I have waited long enough for it !!
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 8th Jan 18, 4:58 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 4:58 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 4:58 PM
    Just a thought - did you want to receive your pension weekly?

    You would need to make a specific request if so - it's not routinely offered.
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 5:21 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 5:21 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 5:21 PM
    Thanks for the thought......I did consider having it paid weekly, but have gone for the monthly option.....the only thing that the application form tells you, is that you "will hear from DWP nearer the first payment date".......I think a 'phone call to them in a couple of weeks to check the situation will be in order.......Jack.
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    • p00hsticks
    • By p00hsticks 8th Jan 18, 5:22 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 5:22 PM
    You should get a follow up letter prior to your state retirement date notifying you of how much you will be paid and when.
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 5:35 PM
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    • 8th Jan 18, 5:35 PM
    Thanks for that......yes, assuming that they have actually received my application.....if not then presumably they would assume that I wished to defer.......that's why some sort of acknowledgement would be useful........Jack.
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    • Katykat
    • By Katykat 8th Jan 18, 6:31 PM
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    I came on here to post a new thread but now Iíve read this I hope you donít mind me joining in. My husband rang DWP today to check that they have received his application ( I did the same 12 months ago.) They have received it but he didnít get a confirmation email. He also asked for his pension to be paid weekly, as I did, but he got a completely different reaction than I did. He was told, firstly, that a weekly payment wasnít an option. He told the guy that I got mine weekly and he was told that ď itís the lawĒ that dictates a 4 weekly payment. OH reiterated that I get mine weekly to which he was told ď only if it would cause considerable hardship could he get it weekly. OH replied that it WOULD cause hardship, so the guy reluctantly authorised it. He said itís been law since 2010. Well, I wasnít told that last year and frankly I donít think I believe it. Is this really the law or was the guy just trying it on?
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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 6:44 PM
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    Please feel free to join in......it looks like there is no confirmation e-mail then, so I will be making that 'phone call in a couple of weeks......from what I can gather, you CAN get your pension weekly, although DWP would prefer everyone to have it paid monthly.........Jack.
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    • capital0ne
    • By capital0ne 8th Jan 18, 6:49 PM
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    I applied online 18 months ago, cannot remember now if I got any electronic comms but you do get a letter telling you how much you'll get in your first payment (it may not be a full four weeks worth) and then the date from which you start your four week cycle and how much you will get, my pay date is on a Monday my wife's on a Friday. It depends on your NI number apparently.

    This letter arrived after my birthday but before I received my first payment. My first payment covered 3 weeks, and from then on it's every four weeks.
    • greenglide
    • By greenglide 8th Jan 18, 7:14 PM
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    it. He said it!!!8217;s been law since 2010.
    He seems a bit confused then!

    It certainly isn't law. Four weekly is the DWPs preferred periodicity which is understandable si ce they have to pay for each payment are through BACS and there is the increased cost of the IT required to support weekly payments.

    Other benefits do only allow weekly payments in cases of hardship and the claimant is expected to produce evidence Úf this. This was the case for Incapacity Benefit before transition to ESA.
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 8th Jan 18, 7:18 PM
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    Thanks for that.....Yes I think my payment day will be a Monday....I still don't know the amount, but believe that info. is in the letter they send you nearer the time.......Jack.
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 8th Jan 18, 7:28 PM
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    I came on here to post a new thread but now Iíve read this I hope you donít mind me joining in. My husband rang DWP today to check that they have received his application ( I did the same 12 months ago.) They have received it but he didnít get a confirmation email. He also asked for his pension to be paid weekly, as I did, but he got a completely different reaction than I did. He was told, firstly, that a weekly payment wasnít an option. He told the guy that I got mine weekly and he was told that ď itís the lawĒ that dictates a 4 weekly payment. OH reiterated that I get mine weekly to which he was told ď only if it would cause considerable hardship could he get it weekly. OH replied that it WOULD cause hardship, so the guy reluctantly authorised it. He said itís been law since 2010. Well, I wasnít told that last year and frankly I donít think I believe it. Is this really the law or was the guy just trying it on?



    See House of Commons Briefing Paper

    State Pension Arrangements


    BRIEFING PAPER
    Number CBP-260, 27 October 2017
    State Pension payment
    arrangements


    For people who reached State Pension age before 6 April 2010, it can be paid weekly in advance or four weekly in arrears.

    For people reaching State Pension age on or after 6 April 2010, a payday is allocated according to the final two digits of the customerís National Insurance number. Payment is weekly, fortnightly or four-weekly in arrears.


    Regulation 22CA specifies that the new State Pension is paid in
    arrears, at intervals of one week, two weeks, four weeks, or 13
    weeks, if the beneficiary agrees.
    • Katykat
    • By Katykat 9th Jan 18, 6:34 AM
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    Thanks very much Xylophone. My OH never really believed it anyway, but it did seem very unfair for the guy to say that. We !!!8220; baby boomers !!!8220; have enough people begrudging us our pensions without DWP putting us under unnecessary pressure. Oops! Did I really say that?
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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 29th Jan 18, 11:40 AM
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    O.K.....an update.....have today rang DWP to check that they have actually received my pension claim that I made nearly a month ago....they have NOT !!......the guy said that they are "having problems with online claims", and to ring back in early March, as they can not accept claims over the 'phone until 2 months before the pension is due (mine is due on 30 April)......what's going on, I thought the Government website was "foolproof"......obviously not.........Jack.
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    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 29th Jan 18, 12:16 PM
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    Just an afterthought......what's happened to my.....and other people's, bank details ? if DWP haven't received them, then where have they gone?.......and they want you to do everything online.....I don't think so.......Jack.
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    • colsten
    • By colsten 29th Jan 18, 12:46 PM
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    Just an afterthought......what's happened to my.....and other people's, bank details ? if DWP haven't received them, then where have they gone?.......and they want you to do everything online.....I don't think so.......Jack.
    Originally posted by Jack Itin
    All sorts of people and organisations have had your sort code and account number for many decades. You were happily giving it out with every cheque you wrote. No need to be concerned about that.

    It is, however, quite disconcerting that the DWP should "lose" online applications for state pensions. I would raise a formal complaint if I were you. https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/complaints-procedure
    • Jack Itin
    • By Jack Itin 29th Jan 18, 2:05 PM
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    Thanks for that......it's not really on is it ?........Jack
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