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    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 7th Jan 18, 12:56 PM
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    Nurse with £5500 parking """fines"""
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:56 PM
    Nurse with £5500 parking """fines""" 7th Jan 18 at 12:56 PM
    I have complete sympathy with nurses and their parking problems but why would you let it get to £5500? Unless a "friend" has given "legal" advice to ignore.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nurses-fury-after-getting-charged-11804315
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 1:02 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:02 PM
    Croydon Health Services NHS Trust said: !!!8220;We are a busy hospital, and work hard to make sure our parking is fair. We offer concessions for patients, including those who require regular hospital visits, and designated areas for staff.

    !!!8220;Wardens will only ticket those cars that have stayed over their allotted time.

    !!!8220;If any patient or member of staff feels they have been ticketed unfairly, we offer the chance to appeal.!!!8221;


    and they wonder about shortage of staff
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 7th Jan 18, 1:10 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:10 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:10 PM
    She knew she couldnt park, yet continued to rack up loads of fines, her own fault!
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
    She knew she couldnt park, yet continued to rack up loads of fines, her own fault!
    Originally posted by roddydogs
    as in most of the hospital cases , THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING PLACES ALLOCATED TO STAFF
    • prowla
    • By prowla 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • #5
    • 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:19 PM
    Some of it was where she overstayed whilst dealing with patients, or should she just walk away when her official shift time ends?

    The whole parking thing in the UK is wrong - if people need to drive to work then they need a place to park; instead councils, employers and parking companies view it as a moneymaking scheme.
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 7th Jan 18, 1:24 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:24 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:24 PM
    So how do all the other nurses manage?
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 1:29 PM
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    • #7
    • 7th Jan 18, 1:29 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:29 PM
    So how do all the other nurses manage?
    Originally posted by roddydogs
    why not have a drive to Wales and ask some nurses

    if you read the press artice again you will see "Single mum Vicky Slayford says she has received more than 80 tickets while doing her job and reveals virtually all her colleagues have had at least one ticket from private firm Empark UK"
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 1:42 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:42 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:42 PM
    having looked at enpark , and number of DVLA enquires , I suspect that they are getting the keepers details direct from the database that they or the hospital holds , the lady had her permit on display (probably with a number on it) and cross ref would be easy by empark

    the proof of the pudding would be 80 seperate requests to the DVLA for info
    • Silvertabby
    • By Silvertabby 7th Jan 18, 1:56 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 1:56 PM
    Parking at our local hospital was free - for medical staff, patients and visitors.

    Unfortunately, this was abused by shop workers and shoppers who parked there and walked the sort distance into town.

    Medics and other hospital staff have their own designated free car park. Visitors and patients have to pay - but at least they can park now that most of the car park isn't being used by shoppers!
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 7th Jan 18, 2:38 PM
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    Parking facilities can be done properly if the hospital trust has a mind to do it. Pop-up multi-story car parks will double or triple the available spaces in certain circumstances if more spaces are needed even on a long term but temporary basis.
    Long term solutions can be found as has happened with the new build hospital at Southmead, Bristol accompanied by the closure of the nearby Frenchay hospital. Temporary parking and park and ride for staff and patients was provided whilst the old car park was dug up and a new multi-story car park built.

    The last thing any hospital should be doing is employing an unregulated private parking company. Anyone who does even the briefest of research will discover that the unregulated private parking industry is a scam, and is only there to feed the greed of the company without any regard for actually managing the parking.
    There is no advantage to an unregulated private parking company actually having people guiding cars to parking spaces, turning motorists away if there are no free spaces, and generally managing the parking flow. They would make no money if they did that.

    The important thing to remember here is that the money generated does not go to the NHS or hospital trust where an unregulated private parking company is used. It goes to the unregulated private parking company.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 7th Jan 18, 2:41 PM
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    This is a HUNT thing ?

    The nodding dog Jeremy Hunt really should be set
    aside for a professional to take over

    On the Andrew Marr programme today, Theresa May
    was stating her favourite saying "I recognise"

    Cameron used to say "I get it"

    Both of them ended up doing nothing ??

    No wonder this country is in such a mess with so
    called leaders like this around
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 2:42 PM
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    I blame the french and spanish (indigo and empark) , those companies would have there offices burnt down if they tried this scam in the own countries

    smart (australiaN) ,, we will just accept they are UN smart
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 2:44 PM
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    This is a HUNT thing ?

    The nodding dog Jeremy Hunt really should be set
    aside for a professional to take over

    On the Andrew Marr programme today, Theresa May
    was stating her favourite saying "I recognise"

    Cameron used to say "I get it"

    Both of them ended up doing nothing ??

    No wonder this country is in such a mess with so
    called leaders like this around
    Originally posted by beamerguy

    Theresa May pays more attention to a members bill about fox hunting
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 7th Jan 18, 2:46 PM
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    The important thing to remember here is that the money generated does not go to the NHS or hospital trust where an unregulated private parking company is used. It goes to the unregulated private parking company.
    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    And maybe some unregulated commissions and bonuses
    floating around.

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    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 7th Jan 18, 4:06 PM
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    The important thing to remember here is that the money generated does not go to the NHS or hospital trust where an unregulated private parking company is used. It goes to the unregulated private parking company.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles

    Contracted-out car parking

    NHS organisations are responsible for the actions of private contractors who run car parks on their behalf.
    NHS organisations should act against rogue contractors in line with the relevant codes of practice6where applicable.
    Contracts should not be let on any basis that incentivises additional charges, eg !!!8216;income from parking charge notices only!!!8217;.
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    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 7th Jan 18, 4:13 PM
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    Contracts should not be let on any basis that incentivises additional charges, eg Ďincome from parking charge notices onlyí.



    ahh the cop out , the company makes its income by selling/installing signs (which they have to by law) and charge £50 per year per sign
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 7th Jan 18, 5:46 PM
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    The question is, should employers provide staff parking? When I worked in Whitehall, parking was as rare as hens teeth.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • markudman
    • By markudman 7th Jan 18, 8:29 PM
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    There are different opinions about this story on here
    But surly the 2 main points are NHS and Cowboy parking operators.

    Firstly I say that, if it was one of our families in hospital do you want the nurse to say, see ya, its home time, or do you want them to give the best care possible?

    And are we not here to fight the PPC?
    I!!!8217;m a newbie here and to fighting cowboy PPC, in fact any cowboy.
    The NHS is a cause worth fighting for, and it starts with the PPC!!!8217;s.

    I also understand 80 tickets is a lot, and should have been handled better, did she talk to anyone about them? I.E Management, anyway I support her,
    • nigelbb
    • By nigelbb 9th Jan 18, 1:54 PM
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    The question is, should employers provide staff parking? When I worked in Whitehall, parking was as rare as hens teeth.
    Originally posted by The Deep
    Why would you need to park a car? There is excellent provision of public transport in Central London running round the clock.
    • Computersaysno
    • By Computersaysno 10th Jan 18, 12:10 PM
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    having looked at enpark , and number of DVLA enquires , I suspect that they are getting the keepers details direct from the database that they or the hospital holds , the lady had her permit on display (probably with a number on it) and cross ref would be easy by empark

    the proof of the pudding would be 80 seperate requests to the DVLA for info
    Originally posted by pappa golf


    This is a very valid point.


    Not only are the scum not allowed to use NHS databases for the keeper details, but they also MUST request a separate data request from the DVLA for every SINGLE ticket; they are simply not allowed to use the data obtained from DVLA for the previous tickets


    So 80 tickets does indeed mean that there should have been 80 requests made to the DVLA.


    The RK can find out exactly to whom and on what dates the DVLA has released their information. The DVLA will maybe try to charge the RK for this information, but this can be successfully resisted [there's a letter knocking about somewhere on hoew to get the data wiothout paying].
    Last edited by Computersaysno; 10-01-2018 at 12:13 PM.
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