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    • I-Want-To-Move
    • By I-Want-To-Move 6th Jan 18, 10:34 PM
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    Scared of changing jobs
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    • 6th Jan 18, 10:34 PM
    Scared of changing jobs 6th Jan 18 at 10:34 PM
    A little bit of background info, I have worked in admin/secretarial/reception for 25 years. I don't love it but neither do I hate it. I'm happy in the role as long as my day's are busy but im noticing more and more of these roles are disappearing as people use email more so tend to do more work themselves and as firms are looking to save money.

    I think that there will be a redundancy situation at work - don't know when but there just isn't even work for everyone. Its making me feel scared because I have no savings, a bit of debt and am scared about if there are still "my" kind of jobs out there. Its ready to say change career but I'm not trained/qualified in anything. Ive only ever changed jobs because I wanted a change, it feels very different if I have to get another job because I'm forced to leave the one I've got. Ive worked my whole life apart from 9 months maternity leave and am terrified of being out of work.

    I have been reducing my outgoings and have worked out that the minimum I can exist (and that is exist, not live) on is 650 a month with a bit extra on top for travel to interviews. I estimate that if I was to get made redundant I would receive around 2500/3000 redundancy plus any holiday pay owed. Its not much.

    Im a single parent with no-one who would help me out so the thought of that initial probationary period in a new job and even finding one is daunting. I'm not a risk taker, i like familiarity and comfort!

    My gut instinct is to delay looking for a new job until/if I am forced to and in the meantime concentrate HARD on saving an emergency fund and decreasing the debt.
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    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    • By keepcalmandstayoutofdebt 6th Jan 18, 10:54 PM
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    Wait to see what happens. x

    Only move on when you know there is not going to be anyone at all who can charge in and make this better. When there is absolutely no way back so to speak.

    Though Someone writes "If you can be hired and fired with the same good grace, and move purposefully to your next endeavour, you can be strengthened by the experience. Doing one job for x years is admirable. Doing ten jobs for two is a whole lot more fun" (like I say only in times if this needs apply.)
    "If you are caught in a rainstorm, once you accept that you'll receive a soaking, the only thing left to do is enjoy the walk"
    • YorkshireBoy
    • By YorkshireBoy 6th Jan 18, 11:02 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:02 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:02 PM
    A little bit of background info, I have worked in admin/secretarial/reception for 25 years. I don't love it but neither do I hate it. I'm happy in the role as long as my day's are busy but im noticing more and more of these roles are disappearing as people use email more so tend to do more work themselves and as firms are looking to save money.

    I think that there will be a redundancy situation at work - don't know when but there just isn't even work for everyone. Its making me feel scared because I have no savings, a bit of debt and am scared about if there are still "my" kind of jobs out there. Its ready to say change career but I'm not trained/qualified in anything. Ive only ever changed jobs because I wanted a change, it feels very different if I have to get another job because I'm forced to leave the one I've got. Ive worked my whole life apart from 9 months maternity leave and am terrified of being out of work.

    I have been reducing my outgoings and have worked out that the minimum I can exist (and that is exist, not live) on is 650 a month with a bit extra on top for travel to interviews. I estimate that if I was to get made redundant I would receive around 2500/3000 redundancy plus any holiday pay owed. Its not much.

    Im a single parent with no-one who would help me out so the thought of that initial probationary period in a new job and even finding one is daunting. I'm not a risk taker, i like familiarity and comfort!
    Originally posted by I-Want-To-Move
    So after all that you say...
    My gut instinct is to delay looking for a new job until/if I am forced to and in the meantime concentrate HARD on saving an emergency fund and decreasing the debt.
    Why can't you do both at the same time? Wouldn't it be better to be in the driving seat rather than a passenger not knowing where you're going?
    • I-Want-To-Move
    • By I-Want-To-Move 6th Jan 18, 11:20 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:20 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:20 PM
    So after all that you say...Why can't you do both at the same time? Wouldn't it be better to be in the driving seat rather than a passenger not knowing where you're going?
    Originally posted by YorkshireBoy
    That is exactly what is troubling me, it would be nicer to move out of choice. It feels frightening to do it because im forced.
    • I-Want-To-Move
    • By I-Want-To-Move 6th Jan 18, 11:31 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:31 PM
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    • 6th Jan 18, 11:31 PM
    Wait to see what happens. x

    Only move on when you know there is not going to be anyone at all who can charge in and make this better. When there is absolutely no way back so to speak.

    Though Someone writes "If you can be hired and fired with the same good grace, and move purposefully to your next endeavour, you can be strengthened by the experience. Doing one job for x years is admirable. Doing ten jobs for two is a whole lot more fun" (like I say only in times if this needs apply.)
    Originally posted by keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    I've just had a look at the figures again and I hadn't worked it out properly (I thought you only got notice pay whoops). I would be entitled to just under 6k plus any holiday pay and pension contributions owed. That would allow me more than six months to find a job if I lived on the minimum amount I can exist on and I'd hope to be in work before then even if it was just something temporary while I looked for something permanent.

    I'm going to stay put, save hard, and sign up for job sites so I can see what is out there. Just need to relax now and stop worrying.
    • ERICS MUM
    • By ERICS MUM 7th Jan 18, 12:40 AM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:40 AM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:40 AM
    I've just had a look at the figures again and I hadn't worked it out properly (I thought you only got notice pay whoops). I would be entitled to just under 6k plus any holiday pay and pension contributions owed. That would allow me more than six months to find a job if I lived on the minimum amount I can exist on and I'd hope to be in work before then even if it was just something temporary while I looked for something permanent.

    I'm going to stay put, save hard, and sign up for job sites so I can see what is out there. Just need to relax now and stop worrying.
    Originally posted by I-Want-To-Move
    Sounds like a good plan. Good luck. X
    • 74jax
    • By 74jax 7th Jan 18, 9:11 AM
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    https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights

    Are you entitled to statutory redundancy or does your company offer enhanced in your handbook?
    Forty and fabulous, well that's what my cards say....
    • Tabbytabitha
    • By Tabbytabitha 7th Jan 18, 12:04 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:04 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:04 PM
    I've just had a look at the figures again and I hadn't worked it out properly (I thought you only got notice pay whoops). I would be entitled to just under 6k plus any holiday pay and pension contributions owed. That would allow me more than six months to find a job if I lived on the minimum amount I can exist on and I'd hope to be in work before then even if it was just something temporary while I looked for something permanent.

    I'm going to stay put, save hard, and sign up for job sites so I can see what is out there. Just need to relax now and stop worrying.
    Originally posted by I-Want-To-Move
    You could also use the time to write one or more CVs and even start working towards additional qualifications.
    • 166million
    • By 166million 7th Jan 18, 12:14 PM
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    • 7th Jan 18, 12:14 PM
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    There are lots of admin jobs out there don't worry.
    The robotic uprising is not yet complete.
    Ps I am in the redundancy process at the moment and applying for lots of jobs
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    • MuffinTops
    • By MuffinTops 7th Feb 18, 8:03 AM
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    Hello i-want-to-move. Thank you for posting on my diary. I've subscribed so I can also follow your journey.

    What area are you looking for jobs in at the moment?

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    • Energize
    • By Energize 7th Feb 18, 12:14 PM
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    The job centre will normally pay for your travel to interviews.
    • TBagpuss
    • By TBagpuss 7th Feb 18, 2:35 PM
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    I think in the short term you can also look at how you work in your current role and how that compares with other people doing similar jobs.

    I get what yuou are saying, in my office we have fewer secretarial posts than we did even 10 years ago, as more is done via e-mail, etc.

    We are not looking at redundancies, we've mostly just taken on fewer new people, but back in 2007 when the recession hit and we did have to make redundancies, we were looking (among other things) at how flexible / adaptable people were. So if you have reception and admin and secretarial skills, rather than just one of those, you are less likely to be selected, as you are more able to be flexible and met the needs of the business.

    Similarly, if you are perceived as someone who is helpful and tries to make things work, and has a positive attitude, rather than someone who has a 'not in my job description, not my problem' attitude, then your bosses will have noticed this and it is likely to carry weight in terms of who stays and who goes, if they do make redundancies.

    That said, do polish up your CV and maybe consider any other options - for instance, lots of companies have started to use of-site services and while some of these are based overseas, not all are - I think they would tend to be more straight typing from dictation or remote (telephone) reception but it might be worth looking in to that s another option.
    • Lbs
    • By Lbs 7th Feb 18, 2:46 PM
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    Are there any positions in a different department within your current employer?
    • Caroline_a
    • By Caroline_a 8th Feb 18, 2:34 PM
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    If you're in the South East you will have no problem at all getting a temp job or a permanent job. I was made redundant last January, applied for a ton of jobs and was back in work within 6 weeks. Additionally I won't see 60 again!

    Some agencies offer skill updating programmes, so that would be worth checking out. Agencies will tweak your CV for you too. Also get yourself on LinkedIn if you're not already on, they have a large jobs section.

    Good luck!
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