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    • vegasvisitor
    • By vegasvisitor 5th Jan 18, 7:51 PM
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    Las Vegas guide and MSE thread 2018
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    Las Vegas guide and MSE thread 2018 5th Jan 18 at 7:51 PM
    Las Vegas unlike nearly every other holiday destination you may have visited. In Vegas the hotels ARE the attractions. Most have a huge casino attached, but if you think that's all there is to the place, you are sorely mistaken! Each hotel is very different, with its own theme and attractions.

    The good news is, is that Vegas can be a friend for us Money Saving Experts, with lots of free attractions, cheap eats/drinks and value for money to be had.

    This page cannot hope to cover everything, but should point you towards some good money saving tips. All information at the start of this thread is put together by members of the forum and is accurate at the time of writing - we will update it when we can.

    After reading the 'information' posts at the start of this thread, feel free to ask a question and join the discussion! We have lots of Vegas regulars contributing to this thread - join the gang!

    HOTELS & CASINOS
    • Click here for hotels & casinos on the Strip
    • Click here for hotels & casinos in the Downtown area (north) of Las Vegas
    • Click here for hotels & casinos just off the Strip
    Last edited by vegasvisitor; 05-01-2018 at 8:04 PM. Reason: removed the first line asking people to not reply until other posts added. Good to go!
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    • Indout96
    • By Indout96 12th Oct 18, 8:25 AM
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    Can I ask what you made of the Premium Economy bit?
    Originally posted by bradders1983
    Sorry - did not make it clear, this is for June 2019 but having been on these planes before it looks to be the same as the extra legroom seats on the front row but without people trying to cut across in front of you
    TV screens look bigger and food is "meant" to be better but that's subjective, there is only so much you can do with a heated up meal.
    Coming home it was only slightly more that upgrading to the extra legroom seats which I really need at 6'4'' and with the extra suitcase weight it was a no brainer.
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    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 12th Oct 18, 8:38 AM
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    Sorry - did not make it clear, this is for June 2019 but having been on these planes before it looks to be the same as the extra legroom seats on the front row but without people trying to cut across in front of you
    TV screens look bigger and food is "meant" to be better but that's subjective, there is only so much you can do with a heated up meal.
    Coming home it was only slightly more that upgrading to the extra legroom seats which I really need at 6'4'' and with the extra suitcase weight it was a no brainer.
    Originally posted by Indout96
    Cheers. I always like the option of a "free" bar when I go to Vegas to be honest so that appealed.
    As for food I can live without it. Never a fan, will just hit one of the buffets for lunch when I get there!
    • Hovis91
    • By Hovis91 13th Oct 18, 9:36 AM
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    We too fly out of Manchester and after doing many indirect flights to Vegas we only do direct ones now generally with Thomas Cook.After being abandoned in Philidelphia with US Airlines and being delayed by snow in Chicago with AA it just isn't for me.We have had some good change overs in Atlanta and Philidelphia but as we mainly go in the winter months I just don't want the stress of it.We do travel cattle class and that's fine ...I pay for an extra suitcase coming home and the extra money we would have spent on upgrading I would rather spend in Vegas.Someone on here recommended the inflatable foot rest and I have to say it's perfect..I put my headphones on ,feet up and watch the movies or read.We are at 29 days countdown...trip number 19 I think !!!!
    • nvh
    • By nvh 13th Oct 18, 10:05 AM
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    Publically available (not gameplay related) comp midweek rates for members at Caesars group reported here:

    https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/10/12/fabulous-fridays-complimentary-weekday-las-vegas-hotel-rooms-for-total-rewards-members-resort-fee-applies-waived-for-diamond-members/?omhide=true
    • deejaybee
    • By deejaybee 13th Oct 18, 7:55 PM
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    Hi all,


    I have been following the discussions re economy or premium economy with thomas cook & Virgin from Manchester.


    I am saving virgin flying club points and plan is to get enough to get 2 x premium economy flights to Vegas - i understand that i will still have taxes and other costs to pay with the "reward" flights.


    But now i am wondering whether it is worthwhile or not using the Virgin points as Thomas Cook cash flights are much cheaper ?


    Or is it worth it for the Virgin PE quality ?
    • Kit1
    • By Kit1 14th Oct 18, 12:34 PM
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    Hi love hearing about all your recent trips. We have only be to Vegas twice and both times at Christmas but we are thinking about going next Easter and have been looking at prices. Flights for that time of year are pretty high so we have had a look at packages and have found some good deals (we think they are good but you all might have different ideas) and wondered if anyone could give us some advice as to whether they are good value for money and what the hotels are like.

    The first one is
    Mardi Gras Hotel and Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1492 for 7 nights

    The second is
    Excalibur Hotel & Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1657 for 7 night

    Both are with Thomas Cook. We have stayed at the Platinum on our last visits but with fights at around £1200+ and then hotel on top plus travel to Manchester as we can't find any good deals out of London which is closest to us the price is just going up.

    Many thanks
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    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 14th Oct 18, 1:46 PM
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    Hi love hearing about all your recent trips. We have only be to Vegas twice and both times at Christmas but we are thinking about going next Easter and have been looking at prices. Flights for that time of year are pretty high so we have had a look at packages and have found some good deals (we think they are good but you all might have different ideas) and wondered if anyone could give us some advice as to whether they are good value for money and what the hotels are like.

    The first one is
    Mardi Gras Hotel and Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1492 for 7 nights

    The second is
    Excalibur Hotel & Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1657 for 7 night

    Both are with Thomas Cook. We have stayed at the Platinum on our last visits but with fights at around £1200+ and then hotel on top plus travel to Manchester as we can't find any good deals out of London which is closest to us the price is just going up.

    Many thanks
    Originally posted by Kit1
    Is that per person or for both of you?
    The Excalibur price is near to what we paid last year just after easter but for 9 days (got 3 days free at hotel through My Vegas facebook game).
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    • stevie11
    • By stevie11 14th Oct 18, 2:07 PM
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    Hi love hearing about all your recent trips. We have only be to Vegas twice and both times at Christmas but we are thinking about going next Easter and have been looking at prices. Flights for that time of year are pretty high so we have had a look at packages and have found some good deals (we think they are good but you all might have different ideas) and wondered if anyone could give us some advice as to whether they are good value for money and what the hotels are like.

    The first one is
    Mardi Gras Hotel and Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1492 for 7 nights

    The second is
    Excalibur Hotel & Casino
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip £1657 for 7 night

    Both are with Thomas Cook. We have stayed at the Platinum on our last visits but with fights at around £1200+ and then hotel on top plus travel to Manchester as we can't find any good deals out of London which is closest to us the price is just going up.

    Many thanks
    Originally posted by Kit1

    Kit1, firstly is the price for two passengers? Without knowing your exact dates it is difficult to give a definate opinion on price comparing a package against DIY trip.

    Anyway the two hotels you have chosen are on the lower end of the quality and desirability scale, although I have read many reports of Excalibur being suitable for those on a budget, location wise it is nearer the south end of the strip but a stroll away from the strip attractions.

    As for Mardi Gras, not sure why you have chosen that, was it soley on price? Having stayed there twice on a solo trip earlier this year I can comment and although it met my needs, I would not recommend the hotel for a couples stay. Reasons it is a distance from the strip, the rooms are old and personally if I fancied reaxing for a few hours that wouldn't be the place even the room I wouldn't be happy chilling out as a couple. I used it soley for a bed for the night. The benefits for my stay were the complimentary airport and strip shuttle, cheap rate & $5 resort fee. Many of the locals on tripadvisor say the area around Mardi Gras isn't the best.

    Are you signed up with any players cards i.e. CET or Mlife? Smartervegas often have links to great rates booking direct with the hotels.

    What are your dates and departure airport? Maybe we can help you a little more.
    • Kit1
    • By Kit1 14th Oct 18, 2:19 PM
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    Hi both and thank you for your replies. Sorry forgot to mention dates - we are looking to go around 7 April for 7 nights (school holidays which are always more expensive, but that's what happens when you work in school).

    These we just 2 of a list that came up on the Thomas Cook website. The Mardi Gras Hotel and Casino because it was just off the strip and the Excalibur Hotel & Casino for no other reason than price really. The price was for 2 people for 7 nights.

    I have also found this one too;-
    Desert Rose Resort
    USA, Nevada, Las Vegas, The Strip

    As l said we have stayed at the Platinum which is just behind Bally's so don't mind walking to and from the strip.

    If you have any better ideas on good deals l would be grateful.

    Again thanks many thanks.
    Last edited by Kit1; 14-10-2018 at 4:35 PM.
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    • stevie11
    • By stevie11 14th Oct 18, 2:48 PM
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    Kit1, quick search for you cheapest flights I am finding are out of Man with AA/BA inc baggage for around £600, Thomas Cook is similar althjough I am not sure if bags are additional. From London flights are at least £100 more. So the question is do you want direct or save going indirect?

    Now accomodation wise that week seems pretty expensive, the weeks either side are cheaper. Not sure why as Easter isn't until the weekend of April 19 plus I can't see any major conventions on at that time.

    So possible options are out of the two I would go for Excal or hang fire and wait for the next flight sale and just keep a check on hotel prices. The benefit of booking the hotels direct is that normally you can cancel if a better offer comes available. Booking as a package it is difficult to change your hotel plans.

    Another point on your original quotes does that include resort fees? Mardi Gras wil be about $40 whilst Excal is about $250 for the 7 days.

    Good luck.
    • Kit1
    • By Kit1 14th Oct 18, 3:31 PM
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    Kit1, quick search for you cheapest flights I am finding are out of Man with AA/BA inc baggage for around £600, Thomas Cook is similar althjough I am not sure if bags are additional. From London flights are at least £100 more. So the question is do you want direct or save going indirect?

    Now accomodation wise that week seems pretty expensive, the weeks either side are cheaper. Not sure why as Easter isn't until the weekend of April 19 plus I can't see any major conventions on at that time.

    So possible options are out of the two I would go for Excal or hang fire and wait for the next flight sale and just keep a check on hotel prices. The benefit of booking the hotels direct is that normally you can cancel if a better offer comes available. Booking as a package it is difficult to change your hotel plans.

    Another point on your original quotes does that include resort fees? Mardi Gras wil be about $40 whilst Excal is about $250 for the 7 days.

    Good luck.
    Originally posted by stevie11
    I could only find flights of around £1200+ direct, not sure we want to hang around an airport for hours. Not sure if l mentioned the prices for both hotels are for 2 people inc flights.

    We did wonder if we should wait and see if prices go down. We can fly from Sat 6 April and need to be back 23 April so any time between then for 7 days is fine. We do prefer smaller type hotels.
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    • Rebecca01
    • By Rebecca01 14th Oct 18, 3:56 PM
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    We are lookout at Christmas day in Vegas. It’s a toss up between that and NYC.
    Has anyone had Christmas day on the strip?
    • Kit1
    • By Kit1 14th Oct 18, 4:25 PM
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    We are lookout at Christmas day in Vegas. Itís a toss up between that and NYC.
    Has anyone had Christmas day on the strip?
    Originally posted by Rebecca01
    We have been lucky enough to spend Christmas afternoon on the strip (flown out Christmas Day both times). We found that most things were open including the food courts so it was easy to get something quick to eat. If l remember correctly the little street leading to the Lin Q High Roller had entertainment.

    Just felt like any other day.
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    • stevie11
    • By stevie11 14th Oct 18, 4:53 PM
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    I could only find flights of around £1200+ direct, not sure we want to hang around an airport for hours. Not sure if l mentioned the prices for both hotels are for 2 people inc flights.

    We did wonder if we should wait and see if prices go down. We can fly from Sat 6 April and need to be back 23 April so any time between then for 7 days is fine. We do prefer smaller type hotels.
    Originally posted by Kit1
    I uderstand you not wanting to go indirect, that doesn't bother me having done it many times.

    Of your original dates if you could stretch your budget a little more, Mirage is on offer for £908 each. I.m.o the prices are on the high side but I suppose that is the time of year. I am in the mindset to wait and just keep checking but that is the way I am to get the best deal.

    Checking your dates for Excal through Smatervegas it will cost $700 (approx £540) which includes resort fees, that offer also includes two buffets per night. Whereas the Thomas cook booking resort fees are extra and it only includes two buffets per stay.

    So roughly DIY with indirect flights and option to change hotels and additional buffets:

    Flights £1200 and Hotel £ 540 = £1740

    Thomas cook booking direct flights

    Package £1657 plus resort fees $250 (£190) = ~ £1847
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 14th Oct 18, 5:27 PM
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    KIT1 -I would forget the Thomas Cook websites - it is expensive - try Expedia you will get the TC flight for the same price but by adding a hotel you could save a bit.
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    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 16th Oct 18, 11:36 AM
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    Aye they go every day at the moment, although next year it looks to be cut back to 5 times a week. Virgin still do Sundays and Thursdays between March and October (?) but the prices in comparison are eye watering.

    Just paid £899.98 with them for a return trip in premium economy next September. I will probably have been lucky to get the same trip in basic with Virgin from Manchester for under £1200 once their prices finally come out, and I cant do the trip easily in economy to be honest. Maybe Im just a snob as I did it in First a few years ago (on a staff fare with a friend) and its a bit of a comedown!
    Originally posted by bradders1983
    Just looked at the cost today. £770.

    Wish I hadn't
    • Hovis91
    • By Hovis91 16th Oct 18, 12:07 PM
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    I know I asked previously about people's experience of flying Air Tanker and the lack of seat back entertainment.However when I have re read the email from Thimas Cook telling us about the change to Air Tanker it gave me a code for which fleet we are on (G-VYGK) and its specifications and its shows it has seat back entertainment...however fleet G-VYGM doesn't ... has anyone flew with them recently out of Manchester ??
    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 16th Oct 18, 12:32 PM
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    I know I asked previously about people's experience of flying Air Tanker and the lack of seat back entertainment.However when I have re read the email from Thimas Cook telling us about the change to Air Tanker it gave me a code for which fleet we are on (G-VYGK) and its specifications and its shows it has seat back entertainment...however fleet G-VYGM doesn't ... has anyone flew with them recently out of Manchester ??
    Originally posted by Hovis91
    When I asked Thomas Cook about their routes to Vegas next year they told me the Man-LAS route would NOT be an Air Tanker one. Quick way to check is go to their website and search for flights. If you dont get a Premium Economy option then its an Air Tanker.

    As for now, plane G-VYGM (the one of the two with no seatback entertainment) seems to be based in Glasgow for the autumn:

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-vygm

    The other (G-VYGK), the one WITH seatback and the one your email states, is currently based at Manchester

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-vygk
    Last edited by bradders1983; 16-10-2018 at 12:35 PM.
    • Hovis91
    • By Hovis91 16th Oct 18, 1:08 PM
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    [QUOTE=bradders1983;74923335]When I asked Thomas Cook about their routes to Vegas next year they told me the Man-LAS route would NOT be an Air Tanker one. Quick way to check is go to their website and search for flights. If you dont get a Premium Economy option then its an Air Tanker.

    As for now, plane G-VYGM (the one of the two with no seatback entertainment) seems to be based in Glasgow for the autumn:

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-vygm

    The other (G-VYGK), the one WITH seatback and the one your email states, is currently based at Manchester

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-vygk[/QUOTE


    It is definately Air Tanker with no premium economy but just glad of the seat back entertainment ... Was ready to use my iPad but didn't want to be taking extra battery pack with me .
    • dontone
    • By dontone 16th Oct 18, 2:02 PM
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    Hiya peeps.

    Quick question. Was having a potter on Expedia, and came across a hotel on the Strip called the 'NoMad'. It seems to be slightly up from the MGM Grand.
    I've never heard of it before, looks to be a new(ish) one. Anybody know exactly what it used to be? Ta.

    BTW, I've just seen on FB that earlier, Co-op Travel was offering 7 nights in Vegas at the Stratosphere, indirect flights (stop at Philly) from Manchester, in March £399pp. Don't know if there were any extras to pay, but you have to call them to book it. HTH anybody who is considering a short trip and is on a budget.
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