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    • april89
    • By april89 4th Jan 18, 11:16 AM
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    Range Cooker recommedations
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    • 4th Jan 18, 11:16 AM
    Range Cooker recommedations 4th Jan 18 at 11:16 AM
    My OH and I are looking to replace our current range cooker as two of the hob rings do not work. However, we have no idea what to look for and what features and brands are things to look out for or things to avoid. With a new mortgage (we only moved in four months ago) we're not looking for Miele prices but would prefer to pay for a quality cooker that will last than the cheapest which may not (unless the cheapest will!). Our only requirement as such is that it must be all electric as we don't have a gas supply. Also, if it has any impact, the current cooker is 110cm wide. Thank you!
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    • martinsurrey
    • By martinsurrey 4th Jan 18, 4:38 PM
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    Induction top or not?

    In terms of features - multi function main cavity? duel fan ovens? a lot only have one fan oven and one convection, we love having a multi function (can use as fan or convection) and another fan oven.

    Personally we only looked at Stoves or Rangemaster, ended up going for a stoves, mainly on looks.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 4th Jan 18, 4:54 PM
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    Have you looked at quotes to replace the two hob rings? It might not be that expensive and if the rest of the range works, it seems a shame to bin it entirely.

    Just made a similar decision ourselves because our dual-fuel range cooker is failing. Having researched it, built-in ovens provide much better quality for the budget - with free-standing ranges you're paying for a lot of cabinet and aesthetics so a £1500 unit doesn't buy great quality ovens. However, like you we have inherited a layout with a house which accommodates a 100cm range cooker so in the interests of not ripping up the current kitchen (which is very nice) we've had to go for a like-for-like. I found there were about three price points. £700-800 buys a fairly cheap-and-nasty cooker with more form than function. £1200-2000 gets something reasonably decent but perhaps not the quality you'd expect for that price. The higher end (£3k upwards) gets a good quality serious cooker but which is unlikely to be used to its potential by the typical household.

    We went for a £1500 Rangemaster. Yet to arrive so can't comment on using it but for the space we have, it seemed the best compromise of price and quality. If we ever re-do our kitchen I will go for to decent built-in ovens and a hob instead.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 4th Jan 18, 5:07 PM
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    Have you looked at quotes to replace the two hob rings? It might not be that expensive and if the rest of the range works, it seems a shame to bin it entirely.

    Just made a similar decision ourselves because our dual-fuel range cooker is failing. Having researched it, built-in ovens provide much better quality for the budget - with free-standing ranges you're paying for a lot of cabinet and aesthetics so a £1500 unit doesn't buy great quality ovens. However, like you we have inherited a layout with a house which accommodates a 100cm range cooker so in the interests of not ripping up the current kitchen (which is very nice) we've had to go for a like-for-like. I found there were about three price points. £700-800 buys a fairly cheap-and-nasty cooker with more form than function. £1200-2000 gets something reasonably decent but perhaps not the quality you'd expect for that price. The higher end (£3k upwards) gets a good quality serious cooker but which is unlikely to be used to its potential by the typical household.

    We went for a £1500 Rangemaster. Yet to arrive so can't comment on using it but for the space we have, it seemed the best compromise of price and quality. If we ever re-do our kitchen I will go for to decent built-in ovens and a hob instead.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    Personally Iíd never buy one again.
    • april89
    • By april89 4th Jan 18, 5:09 PM
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    It would be interesting to hear any experiences between induction and halogen or ceramic. My OH likes the idea of induction as our current ceramic hob has a huge lag time and we both mourn the loss of the responsiveness of gas. The hob is however about 20 years old so I assume that technology has improved a lot since then and induction looks like it would cost more both to buy and then install.

    For the oven itself we've spent years using a single oven with an almost binary temperature function so having two ovens which both cook at about the temperature the dials suggest is already a huge improvement. The current oven does have a storage drawer in the bottom right hand corner which appears to be a complete waste of space though so it would be nice if all of the oven cooked, or at least warmed, something. How much difference does fan vs conventional make?
    • april89
    • By april89 4th Jan 18, 5:14 PM
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    • 4th Jan 18, 5:14 PM
    Apologies, I forgot to reply to Aylesbury Duck.

    We did consider just replacing the two rings but a third ring had a period of causing the RCB to trip so thought it may be safer to replace the whole unit...

    AndyMc - Why wouldn't you buy a range cooker again and what would you suggest as a cost effective option for replacement?
    • theonlywayisup
    • By theonlywayisup 4th Jan 18, 5:43 PM
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    We have an Aga and an induction. The induction is quicker, cleaner and better than gas. It's transformed our lives - particularly in the summer if/when we turn the Aga down.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 4th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
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    Personally Iíd never buy one [Rangemaster] again.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    I hope my experience is better than yours...Iíll come back and give a view if it turns out to be a bad buy.

    I have gone into it with my eyes open but I am somewhat trapped. Iím stuck with a 100cm range cooker because I donít want to change the kitchen, the sub-£1000 models have almost universally awful reviews and the £3k+ models are too expensive and we donít cook seriously enough to get the moneyís worth from them if they were affordable. Iíve seen some very mixed reviews of Rangemasters but at that price point there doesnít seem to be a better alternative.

    The one we inherited was a Lamona/Leisure/Beko range that looks lovely but is of the quality youíd expect. Itís got a fan oven with a sticking fan, a dodgy thermostat and failing seals, a conventional oven that wonít ever get to the set temperature, a broken grill and a pretty useless warming plate at the expense of decent hob sizes. It probably cost the original owners £700 seven years ago.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 4th Jan 18, 6:56 PM
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    I hope my experience is better than yours...Iíll come back and give a view if it turns out to be a bad buy.

    I have gone into it with my eyes open but I am somewhat trapped. Iím stuck with a 100cm range cooker because I donít want to change the kitchen, the sub-£1000 models have almost universally awful reviews and the £3k+ models are too expensive and we donít cook seriously enough to get the moneyís worth from them if they were affordable. Iíve seen some very mixed reviews of Rangemasters but at that price point there doesnít seem to be a better alternative.

    The one we inherited was a Lamona/Leisure/Beko range that looks lovely but is of the quality youíd expect. Itís got a fan oven with a sticking fan, a dodgy thermostat and failing seals, a conventional oven that wonít ever get to the set temperature, a broken grill and a pretty useless warming plate at the expense of decent hob sizes. It probably cost the original owners £700 seven years ago.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    I think with rangemaster your buying a £700 cooker with a badge on it. I think on reflection at £700 theyíre over priced but you live and learn.

    I know of someone in your position wanted rid of their falcon and sold it to the kitchen fitter for £200. His mother was well chuffed.
    • BucksLady
    • By BucksLady 4th Jan 18, 7:14 PM
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    [QUOTE=Aylesbury Duck;73662324

    Itís got a fan oven with a sticking fan, a dodgy thermostat and failing seals, a conventional oven that wonít ever get to the set temperature, a broken grill and a pretty useless warming plate at the expense of decent hob sizes. .[/QUOTE]

    Couldn't get much worse could it - sounds like it belongs at 'Fawlty Towers'
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 4th Jan 18, 7:28 PM
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    I think with rangemaster your buying a £700 cooker with a badge on it. I think on reflection at £700 theyíre over priced but you live and learn.

    I know of someone in your position wanted rid of their falcon and sold it to the kitchen fitter for £200. His mother was well chuffed.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    The other option was to try and pick up an unwanted second-hand range from the good quality end of the market, but ours really is on its last legs so I canít risk waiting until one becomes available.

    I hope youíre wrong about the expensive badge. Time will tell. If it isnít up to much but lasts several years Iíll either get a £700 one next time or perhaps take the opportunity to change the kitchen and invest in two decent built-in ovens and a decent hob. By all accounts thatís the way to go.
    • april89
    • By april89 4th Jan 18, 10:04 PM
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    Does anyone have any experience with Belling or Stoves cookers? These seem to be around the 'mid range' price point as well.
    • J B
    • By J B 4th Jan 18, 10:10 PM
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    Personally, I would try to get it fixed, would that maybe cost a hundred quid?

    We have a Rangemaster 110 all electric with induction hob.
    We don't really like the induction - over priced nonsense says SWMBO
    Also the top left grill is a joke really - only heats half of the area, door doesn't fold all the way down so you can't put anything semi-liquid in there (to brown the top) as some stuff runs out.

    Stick with what you have for a good while then learn what you really want!
    • april89
    • By april89 5th Jan 18, 8:10 AM
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    Does anyone know whether it's possible to replace the whole hob on a range cooker? We did look at getting it repaired but Stoves no longer support the model, providing no spares nor any readily available manual (we eventually got a manual after emailing them a couple of times but it's very basic with no maintenence information). As three of the four ceramic plates have already caused us problems if we did a fix/repair then we would probably choose to do all of them together but if we end up needing to spend a few hundred pounds on parts and an engineer to do this might me as well buy new, or consider a higher range model second hand? We did look to see if we could take it apart ourselves but we can't see how this can be done and Stoves were definitely not willing to give us this information!
    • pavlovs_dog
    • By pavlovs_dog 5th Jan 18, 8:34 AM
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    avoid baumatic - a brand new one came with our house and it has required multiple repairs over the past 7 years. We will be replacing it imminently (and intend to go for a stoves brand model).
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    • Clairabella
    • By Clairabella 5th Jan 18, 11:53 AM
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    I had a Rangemaster Elan duel fuel. It served me well for 12 years with no faults, it looked good and felt solid enough but, I hated it! The gas hobs were a pain to clean, I found bending down to the ovens, to cook and clean, difficult and, having no oven windows, they had to be constantly opened to view the food.
    If you have no choice but to have a range, I would consider having a halogen hob (I have one now, it is just as adjustable as gas and is a breeze to clean). Think about having a glass door in at least one of the ovens. My range was black, it looked great however, it was time consuming to keep it clean - every spec of dust, every finger print and every cooking splash showed up. Cream ones might be more forgiving.
    • Timpu
    • By Timpu 5th Jan 18, 12:54 PM
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    Grrrr, Rangemaster! We 'inherited' ours when we bought the house. Too many seams and nooks for dirt to lodge in and there's not enough room between gas rings to accommodate multiple pots. Which muppet designed the wretched thing??! We found a nut and washer lying on the floor and turns out to have come off the cooker, with no way to get them back on other than lifting the entire cooker. We now have a wonky storage drawer. Biggest annoyance was when the hot plate went. Customer service was a joke, failing to order parts and generally messing us around. Can't wait to get rid of the thing.
    • kippers
    • By kippers 5th Jan 18, 1:26 PM
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    Ive had my a Rangemaster for four years now and I LOVE it....so I think it depends on taste....it has two electric ovens and five gas rings (though I know the poster wanted all elec). If I had one fault it is the electric grill as it's too small to cook anything underneath except toast, as sauasges etc tooch the elements and burn
    • bijouinnuendo
    • By bijouinnuendo 5th Jan 18, 1:37 PM
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    We moved in last February and the previous owner took their range master with them and left us a large hole:-)

    We bought the stoves Richmond 1100 induction and I have not been able to fault it. The hob is extremely responsive I actually think it boils faster than my previous gas one. There are 5 rings - one huge one. We did have to replace all our pans but this can be done relatively cheaply - we bought our new ones from Sainsbury. There are 2 full sized ovens and a separate grill/top oven. It also has what they call a slow cooker but as yet I have never used it as I use the cavity to store my baking trays. HTH
    • J B
    • By J B 5th Jan 18, 3:40 PM
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    If I had one fault it is the electric grill as it's too small to cook anything underneath except toast, as sauasges etc tooch the elements and burn
    Originally posted by kippers
    Take the rack out of the grill pan
    Put some tinfoil in the bottom of the pan
    Replace the rack upside down.

    Job's a good un!
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