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    • thriftyarek888
    • By thriftyarek888 4th Jan 18, 8:48 AM
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    -= Why is rubbish not burned?
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    • 4th Jan 18, 8:48 AM
    -= Why is rubbish not burned? 4th Jan 18 at 8:48 AM
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    I am thinking that UK gov is not doing its duty by not burning enough plastics and making electricity. But by sending waste to China. Chinese gov being such laying, scamming, thieving dirt bags not many know what they do with waste.


    This is pointed out here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5233431/Councils-drastic-action-plastic.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign= 1490
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    • EachPenny
    • By EachPenny 5th Jan 18, 7:32 PM
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    I couldn’t believe the public outcry when a local Council wanted to use waste heat from the local crematorium to warm the water in a nearby swimming pool. Waste incinerators are a bit like nuclear power stations - great idea, but not in my back yard.
    Originally posted by Hengus
    There was a time when the Council would have done something like that and nobody would be any the wiser. There are some downsides to having this open government stuff

    Given the choice of the nuke or the incinerator I'd be quite happy with the nuke. Not sure it would fit in my back yard though Well at least not until they roll out SMRs.
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    • thriftyarek888
    • By thriftyarek888 11th Jan 18, 9:00 PM
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    Thanks for input.
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    • JC_Derby
    • By JC_Derby 21st Jan 18, 10:32 AM
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    I am under the impression that if UK government build more incinerators to get rid of rubbish, converting waste in the electricity, instead of sending to the scam bags of Chinese government, that would be more beneficial for nature.
    Originally posted by thriftyarek888
    I suspect your impression is wrong
    Plain that you don't like the Chinese government, but I think you need to do a little more research into burning waste
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 21st Jan 18, 11:16 AM
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    There is no point separating plastics for recycling if no one wants to buy them. Incineration with energy recovery is the next best option.
    • BargainGalore
    • By BargainGalore 21st Jan 18, 11:25 AM
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    Well this incineration isnt working for people near by

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5292571/Firm-gets-1-7M-green-subsidies-plant-spews-gas.html
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 21st Jan 18, 12:37 PM
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    Originally posted by BargainGalore
    They are not incinerating waste. They are extracting methane from rotting waste in a landfill site, and using the methane as fuel in a power station.

    This is very different to incinerating waste.
    • BargainGalore
    • By BargainGalore 21st Jan 18, 12:42 PM
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    Yes your right apologies
    • sonstbbs
    • By sonstbbs 21st Jan 18, 6:31 PM
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    Having just Christmassed in Aalborg in Denmark our family members all use the local waste to energy power plants for their very cheap energy...their houses all had underfloor heating and were very, very warm! The power stations do however give the town a slightly industrial skyline....blooming good idea though.....
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 21st Jan 18, 9:45 PM
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    ... The power stations do however give the town a slightly industrial skyline...
    Originally posted by sonstbbs
    But that's a question of architecture. I think the Newhaven incinerator is quite attractive.

    http://www.ournewhaven.org.uk/images/uploaded/scaled/incinerator.jpg
    • thor
    • By thor 22nd Jan 18, 2:27 AM
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    But that's a question of architecture. I think the Newhaven incinerator is quite attractive.

    http://www.ournewhaven.org.uk/images/uploaded/scaled/incinerator.jpg
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    That looks like it has come straight off the set for the next Star Wars film.
    • nic_c
    • By nic_c 22nd Jan 18, 10:22 AM
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    That looks like it has come straight off the set for the next Star Wars film.
    Originally posted by thor
    Looks more like they reused the old USSR river rocket for the design


    http://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2016/09/raketa-abandoned-river-rockets-soviet-union/
    • nic_c
    • By nic_c 22nd Jan 18, 10:28 AM
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    The Leeds incinerator handles half the cities black bags, recycling and burning non-recycled elements
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-37987848
    The design has been incorporated with greenery which is innovative.
    Mind you it is supposed to recycle at least 10% of the waste it gets and has missed the targets for the 3rd time.
    • thriftyarek888
    • By thriftyarek888 23rd Jan 18, 1:20 AM
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    The Leeds incinerator handles half the cities black bags, recycling and burning non-recycled elements
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-37987848
    The design has been incorporated with greenery which is innovative.
    Mind you it is supposed to recycle at least 10% of the waste it gets and has missed the targets for the 3rd time.
    Originally posted by nic_c

    That is great by Leeds government. We should have them up in every major city cutting off all waste exports. Someone in government should be in charge of that! Great link thanks Nic
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    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 23rd Jan 18, 1:42 AM
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    They're about to start building a waste incinerator here in a couple of months time. Yours for just £500m. They have planning permission, but they've been told to increase the height of the flue stack, or they won't be granted a licence to operate.
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    • thriftyarek888
    • By thriftyarek888 24th Jan 18, 6:42 PM
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    Seems UK is technologically capable of recycling over 50% of domestic waste. Environmental division is clearly not doing thee job!
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    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 24th Jan 18, 8:24 PM
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    Seems UK is technologically capable of recycling over 50% of domestic waste. Environmental division is clearly not doing thee job!
    Originally posted by thriftyarek888
    Its very easy for the leafy Shires to achieve a high recycling rate. All they need to is provide a garden waste collection.

    Much harder in cities, where many people don't have gardens, and where high levels of deprivation can mean people are more worried about their physical, financial, and emotional security than they are about rising sea levels in the Maldives.
    • thriftyarek888
    • By thriftyarek888 26th Jan 18, 5:15 PM
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    If recycling was made mandatory then people would have to do it. Is the solution not there? Mandatory payed parking type fees?
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    • molerat
    • By molerat 26th Jan 18, 5:29 PM
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    If recycling was made mandatory then people would have to do it. Is the solution not there? Mandatory payed parking type fees?
    Originally posted by thriftyarek888
    You would have to get all councils singing from the same hymn sheet to do that though. Window envelopes, TetraPaks, parcel tape, type 5 plastic, black type 1 plastic and bottle tops to name just a few of the anomalies.
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    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 26th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
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    If recycling was made mandatory then people would have to do it. Is the solution not there? Mandatory payed parking type fees?
    Originally posted by thriftyarek888
    Recycling is mandatory in many areas. Councils serve notice on residents telling them what they are allowed to put in each bin. If you put recycling in your refuse bin you may find it is not emptied, you may get a warning, or you may be issued with a fixed penalty notice.

    The Daily Mail used to criticise councils running this type of scheme. Now they are campaigning about plastic bottles not being recycled. Hey ho.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 26th Jan 18, 6:09 PM
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    You would have to get all councils singing from the same hymn sheet to do that though. Window envelopes, TetraPaks, parcel tape, type 5 plastic, black type 1 plastic and bottle tops to name just a few of the anomalies.
    Originally posted by molerat
    You just need to inform residents what they can and cannot recycle in any particular area. Unfortunately, many seemingly intelligent people seem to have difficulty following instructions.
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