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  • peterstannard
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    • 16th Oct 07, 2:36 PM
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    • 16th Oct 07, 2:36 PM
    I wonder what they’d have done there if it was the other way round.
    Unloaded their 9mm. Then again that happens here too.
    • robnye
    • By robnye 16th Oct 07, 2:38 PM
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    • 16th Oct 07, 2:38 PM
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    at least you didnt call them stupid - now that would have been an insult.......
    smile --- it makes people wonder what you are up to....
    • Mumstheword
    • By Mumstheword 17th Oct 07, 7:37 AM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 7:37 AM
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    I often read your blogs with interest, but they go by without comment usually.

    This one, however, deserved a pat on the back for being one of the few who would speak up.

    How handy, then, that at the bottom of the blog, instead of 'comment and discuss', it says 'commend' and discuss

    Good job that was my intention eh? But a little presumtuous?

    Any spelling and grammar mistakes made by me are, of course, exempt from discussion
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    • snowmaid
    • By snowmaid 17th Oct 07, 7:50 AM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 7:50 AM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 7:50 AM
    You find them everywhere, not just in immigration queues. People who think that they are above the law and obeying law is taking away their civil rights, people who try and 'sex' their way through a situation etc etc. :rolleyes:

    They make me want to hurl into the nearest bin.
    • MSE Martin
    • By MSE Martin 17th Oct 07, 9:23 AM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 9:23 AM
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    I often read your blogs with interest, but they go by without comment usually.

    This one, however, deserved a pat on the back for being one of the few who would speak up.

    How handy, then, that at the bottom of the blog, instead of 'comment and discuss', it says 'commend' and discuss

    Good job that was my intention eh? But a little presumtuous?

    Any spelling and grammar mistakes made by me are, of course, exempt from discussion
    Originally posted by Mumstheword

    Oops - its now restored to 'Comment and discuss'
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    • Mumstheword
    • By Mumstheword 17th Oct 07, 3:40 PM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 3:40 PM
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    • 17th Oct 07, 3:40 PM
    Oops - its now restored to 'Comment and discuss'
    Originally posted by MSE Martin
    Aaw, spoilsport!
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  • BenL
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    • 19th Oct 07, 1:05 PM
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    • 19th Oct 07, 1:05 PM
    Do you ever get through the airport without a hiccup Martin? A month or so ago you were shouting customer service messages weren't you?
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    • peter999
    • By peter999 19th Oct 07, 6:09 PM
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    • 19th Oct 07, 6:09 PM
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    • 19th Oct 07, 6:09 PM
    I returned through Stansted last week around midnight & the queue was quite long.

    Since when have the queues started being so long ??

    Is it since the passport officers got new uniforms & faff about with the passports a bit more ??

    I don't like everyone being treated as a suspect or terrorist under the excuse of "terrorism".

    peter999
    • Voyager2002
    • By Voyager2002 20th Oct 07, 12:00 AM
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    Martin wondered:
    Having been through US immigration a couple of times myself, often an intimidating process, I wonder what they’d have done there if it was the other way round.

    In that situation, I think she would have been crossing the Atlantic again pretty quickly. US immigration expect their victims -- sorry customers -- to do exactly as told.

    Incidentally, there are fairly strict rules against using mobile telephones anywhere near the queue for Immigration. I am surprised that no-one was enforcing them. Such behaviour would not have been tolerated at Heathrow.
    • Smiley_Mum
    • By Smiley_Mum 23rd Oct 07, 11:54 PM
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    Stun gun anyone...



    Empty vessels tend to make the most noise, all that bellowing on the phone. Probably just a pumped up plastic Barbie, with a very ugly personality. Yuk!!

    Good on you Martin for puting her firmly in her place. I hope she was thoroughly grilled before gaining entry to the UK, maybe she was refused. Whatever the outcome I hope the American line was a damn sight longer than the European one.
    Last edited by Smiley_Mum; 24-10-2007 at 12:04 AM.
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    • IanWorthington
    • By IanWorthington 24th Oct 07, 10:48 AM
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    I've seen what they do in the US. I was with a few hundred people stuck in a go-slow immigration queue with insufficient staff and, of course, this being the US, no air-side transfer (Hello guys? Duh!). After a few hours people are starting to miss their flights. One woman dares to complain, and receives a faceful of abuse from the airline customer service agent and an immediate visit from a group of very aggressive cops.

    I would be very worried if the excuse of "Global Terrorism" led our airport staff to start behaving in this same way, even to vacuous airheads.
    • IanWorthington
    • By IanWorthington 24th Oct 07, 11:03 AM
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    I returned through Stansted last week around midnight & the queue was quite long.

    Since when have the queues started being so long ??

    Is it since the passport officers got new uniforms & faff about with the passports a bit more ??

    I don't like everyone being treated as a suspect or terrorist under the excuse of "terrorism".

    peter999
    Originally posted by peter999
    Had the same experience there a few months ago and asked the immigration agent what was going on. Apparently its bau for that time of day there -- there's too many flights arriving at the same time for the number of agents on duty.

    (Seemed to me there was an obvious solution to that, but she was being nice so didn't seem approriate to speak my mind...)
    • newsgroup_monkey
    • By newsgroup_monkey 24th Oct 07, 2:44 PM
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    I have 2 things to add to this.....

    Firstly, the thing about queuing for passport control, surely this is why we all have "Digital" passports - my latest one has a chip in and all sorts. Surely it's supposed to make things easier?

    Secondly, I am (ashamedly) flying from London Luton to Charles De Gaulle weekly at the moment. When queuing for passport control, it never ceases to amaze me the people who really don't know how to queue. Particularly people who think that because I have a pair of headphones on that they can simply walk past me. Just because I care to spend the 3 hours a week I spend in this queue listening to something I enjoy doesn't mean I'm stupid.

    On a subnote, the French actually have it right: The 2 queues not only have Writing in French and English for the queues, they also have pretty pictures so that those who are Polish or Chinese (for example) know which queue to be in. In the UK, we seem to have it wrong. In London Luton, for some reason, we don't have any pictures of flags. Only wording. In English!
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    • Horace
    • By Horace 24th Oct 07, 3:15 PM
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    They have the right idea in Australia - if you haven't got the correct visa, you are sent back from whence you came on the next available flight. You cannot take in more than $AUS 10,000 otherwise you'll have the federal police jumping all over you. You cannot take in food, seeds, leaves - all of this is destroyed. If you are a criminal or look dodgy you are singled out for special treatment, if you fail to fill in the immigration card (the thing they give you on the plane) then you can also be subject to special treatment - strip searches etc or even sent home.

    They should do that here and stop allowing the health tourists etc from coming in. If we stop giving them free benefit handouts (I am English and have been working for 27 years but now my circumstances have changed and I need benefits I can't get them) and free healthcare then we may reduce immigration. Make them apply for visas and if they expire boot them out!
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