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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 1st Jan 18, 11:51 AM
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    Frump to Fab 2018 - Fabulous Dahhhhlings
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    • 1st Jan 18, 11:51 AM
    Frump to Fab 2018 - Fabulous Dahhhhlings 1st Jan 18 at 11:51 AM
    Good Morning my Lovelies.

    And welcome to the new bright and shiny Frump to Fab Thread.

    First of all a very big hello and welcome to everyone, newbies, lurkers and returners....and those undecided.

    Second let me wish you all “Happy New Year”.

    Let’s rock this one!!!!

    Well now where do we start this year. We have quite a history here now don’t we. I was thinking this morning about how the thread has developed so for the newbies......a brief potted history.

    A few years ago my son took a photo of me. I was horrified. I burst into tears. I could hardly believe my eyes at the image before me. But.......as we know the camera doesn’t lie and I couldn’t argue with what That image revealed.

    I went upstairs and stood in front of a full mirror and allowed the awful truth to sink in........never mind frump, I looked like a bag lady.

    In my defence.......it was not down to laziness, far from it. I was caring for my semi Paralysed terminally ill husband. My days were full on with caring duties. I scarcely had a spare minute, it was all I could do to shower and brush my teeth sometimes.

    All very noble of course but I had completely neglected myself in the process. I had forgotten the simple golden rule........we cannot care for others if we don’t care for ourselves. We cannot give love, if we don’t treat ourselves with love.

    How many women forget this simple fact. In our busy lives as mothers, daughters, sisters how often to we put ourselves last on that never ending “to do list”.

    As I stood and looked in that mirror I realised the folly of my ways and I resolved to “do something”. I wasn’t sure what exactly but I knew I had to make a start somewhere.

    So I started the first Frump to Fab Thread and, as they say, the rest is history. What started as a simple diary to help me make the necessary changes to get me out of “Frumpdom” has become a wonderful friendship group of likeminded women.

    Yes some of us are of a certain age but not all. Frumpdom is not the preserve of the middle aged woman who has “let herself go”. Becoming a frump can happen to anyone, young women, even teenagers.

    But here’s the good news .......it’s never too late to reverse the process, never too late to ditch the frump, never too late for the caterpillar to turn into a beautiful butterfly or for the ugly duckling to turn into a graceful and elegant swan.

    There are no rules to this thread except one.

    Kindness please........we don’t judge anyone here, we don’t get into futile pointless arguments, we don’t make nasty comments, we don’t indulge in sarcasm, we don’t bully others, we don’t play mind games and we don’t try to score points by making others feel small.

    So all that being said .....if you are ready to change your stars and become that alluring goddess you always longed to be, if you want to reclaim the energy and vitality that was once yours but has somehow disappeared then this is place for you.

    Let’s all get fabulous.

    Lesson no 1.

    Wear perfume, every day. Don’t save it for best. Get out all those unused smellies lurking in the back of the bathroom cabinet or bedside drawer and start using them.

    Smell divine......and fabulousity will follow. That’s a promise.

    A women who smells gorgeous is gorgeous. It’s the first step on your journey.

    Right I’m off to bathe in a sea of perfumed bubbles but first ..........

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    • maman
    • By maman 13th Oct 18, 5:27 PM
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    Back from my short break in Manchester and caught up with the interesting conversation on here.


    When I said I found the accents in the media grating, I did qualify it by saying it was the sloppy speech that put me off which I think is doing a disservice to regional accents. I have a faint Welsh lilt myself although it's much diluted after many years of living in England. I particularly dislike the dropped Hs, the dropped Ts and more recently the ing endings that are clipped to just 'in'. I don't care if people think I'm an old fuddy duddy. I think poor speech leads to poor spelling and generally creates a poor first impression. My father always noticed. when he met an attractive woman who ruined it all when she opened her mouth. Similarly, whenever I received job applications I was always put off by spelling and grammatical errors.


    I think I'll need to join you in being a right b*tch money. When I'm people watching I weigh up my likes and dislikes from those around me.


    Although my break wasn't a holiday as such I did enjoy getting away. I managed a short break one lunchtime to visit the Manchester Art Gallery. They have some lovely paintings, the pre Raphaelites being my particular favourites. I wore my Zara dress for dinner one night and had compliments both from my colleague I was with but also from a complete stranger who admired it.


    My hair didn't kike the soft water nor did it like Storm Callum yesterday but now I'm home and washed the chalk back in it looks good again!


    Your planned short break sounds good LL. Hope the plumber confirms soon. I often see breaks advertised in spa hotels.


    One thing I did notice, passing through London is how many women wear flat shoes, especially trainer type. That's not surprising but I did notice some nice ones, gold colour being a favourite. That's something to keep an eye out for.


    Today I've taken some time over my shower, creaming and doing my hair, done my meal plan and shop, then going to have a relaxing evening.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 13th Oct 18, 6:12 PM
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    errrm....I'll take that comment in the spirit it was meant in maman then

    My people-watching back in my home city recently showed that a lot of people are currently wearing rather short (capri length or veering towards) trousers. That's not something I ever see here basically.

    I like them - but not for me I think - particularly with being pretty short. A clothes purchase today was a petite length pair of leggings from Dorothy Perkins. Now I've got my mind round this concept of petite/seven-eighths length or whatever - well those leggings are exactly the right length for me.
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    • maman
    • By maman 13th Oct 18, 6:14 PM
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    errrm....I'll take that comment in the spirit it was meant in maman then
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention

    Definitely!
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 13th Oct 18, 6:21 PM
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    Quick query time here on clothes.

    I got absolutely drenched through earlier today in the shower-proof raincoat I bought from a charity shop as a temporary thing - while I diet back down in size.

    So I thought - I really do need to make sure the raincoat I intend to get when I'm back to "proper size" is indeed waterproof. Seasalt ones say they are and have been tested out in Cornwall (some of which I guess gets similar weather to here).

    SO:
    1. Are they as waterproof as they say they are?
    2. Checking out the sizes and thinking "Perhaps I should buy one marked as size 12 - ready for when I am back to my proper size?" Then I got confused by checking out what they say about their sizing on their website. It looked like I'd need to buy one with a size 8 label on for "proper size". As my "proper size" is 36" chest. They vary from style to style they do - but overall "size 8" seems to be around 39" chest (and big hips - and I know I'm same size hips and bust).
    When they say 39" chest - do they mean "We've allowed room for bulky sweaters and the like underneath them" or do they mean "We mean you having a 39" chest".

    Who has got a Seasalt raincoat and what do you think?
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 13th Oct 18, 7:07 PM
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    Well there's showerproof and there's "drenchproof" and even the top of the range ones won't always cut it in really heavy persistent rain.

    I once went to a music festival where we had four seasons in one day. I wore a Barbour waxed jacket and several extra layers for warmth.........even my bra was wet

    You can have garments reproofed, dry cleaners will do it or you can buy kits. Most outdoor stores sell them.

    Not tried Seasalt myself, they seem to have some nice styles, a bit more modern than Barbour perhaps.

    Sizing - personally I always buy oversized for raincoats. I like to be able to wear them over suits or jackets or, if going casual, then So I can allow for chunky winter weight knitwear.

    Maman....Love the sound of your trip. I like Manchester. I am toying with Liverpool - some great museums and galleries - for a couple of nights and then maybe a couple of nights in somewhere like Bakewell. I'll see what there is.

    I'm having a lazy evening too. Just half watching Strictly. Will be interesting to watch "the dance of shame" ....lol.

    Killing EVe is on later. Surreal and bonkers but I'm loving it.
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 13th Oct 18, 7:10 PM
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    Well the other option I was contemplating was Aquascutum - on the grounds I've had one of their raincoats before (years back) and therefore feel it's fair enough to spend an equivalent amount of money again. That would be 700 then But I do know the Chinese have taken over Aquascutum - and therefore there is a chance they may no longer be Aquascutum quality (the name - but not the game).

    By and large Seasalt ones seem to come in at around 150 and they do have literally a Lifetime Guarantee on them - which I gather they do honour if need be.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 13th Oct 18, 7:28 PM
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    I think you could well be right about Aquascutum. A lot of premium brands are just not what they were. A victim of outsourcing to the Far East I'm afraid.

    I was always a Jaegar fan, but they are definitely not what they were.

    I think if Seasalt offer a guarantee then at 150 they are probably a very good bet. Do any of the outlet villages stock them. Apparently one of the marinas near me now stock Seasalt at good prices but I have not been yet.
    • maman
    • By maman 13th Oct 18, 9:07 PM
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    I don't have a Seasalt raincoat myself but SIL has a lot of their stuff including a waterproof parka type coat. I'd go for a larger size myself as like LL says you would be able to wear it with layers underneath in colder weather.

    Do they have a branch in your home city where you could see them and try them on?

    I like Liverpool too LL. The Walker gallery is excellent and DH says Port Sunlight and the Lady Lever gallery is worth a visit if you have your car. We've stayed at the Premier Inn on Albert Dock. It's not the usual Lego type but in a dock building and a very convenient position. And you get the big, comfy bed with Lenny Henry!
    • chanie
    • By chanie 13th Oct 18, 9:10 PM
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    money I dont have much advice about coats, other then to say I think its best to size up, so that you can wear a jumper underneath your coat.

    Today, we had the flooring done in our dining room, hallway and stairs, which was the final step in finishing off the room. We want to get some pictures and soft furnishings to finish off the room, but we arent in any hurry. We are going to invite our family around for a meal so they can see the new room. It was quite a big project for us, as the dining room open plan to the hallway and stairs, plus we had building works, new carpets and dining furniture.

    We managed to take the old carpet to the tip today, as well. The tip can get really busy, to the point where cars are queuing in the road outside, so I try and go early. Luckily, there was no queue today and I even managed to get a prime parking spot.
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 12:07 AM
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    I think you could well be right about Aquascutum. A lot of premium brands are just not what they were. A victim of outsourcing to the Far East I'm afraid.

    I was always a Jaegar fan, but they are definitely not what they were.

    I think if Seasalt offer a guarantee then at 150 they are probably a very good bet. Do any of the outlet villages stock them. Apparently one of the marinas near me now stock Seasalt at good prices but I have not been yet.
    Originally posted by lessonlearned
    Don't know re outlet villages - as there isn't one anywhere remotely near me.

    It was only quite recently Aquascutum was taken over by the Chinese - so they "may" still be Aquascutum - ie rather than inferior make with the Aquascutum name and price tag attached iyswim.

    I know I've got a pair of Hunter boots apparently - but I'm not sure they really are Hunter or whether they were made after Hunter were taken over and so are look-alikes with the Hunter tag on them.

    It does look to be a struggle to get normal standard clothing still these days. Hence I'm glad I kept my older clothes that I still like - though I'm awaiting fitting back into them.

    I did go out tonight with a suedette skirt on from decades past - only Marks & Spencers (but it was before they downgraded their quality). It's a real size 12 one (ie the label says "size 12/26" waist/37" hips) on it. But, in fairness, it's not got a waistline as such - it's an elastic strip all round the inside of it and that has expanded as I went up to label size 16 (ie 3-4 sizes expansion). So it's now starting to threaten to descend round my ankles. I shall have to see if the clothes alterer I found can swop that and get it back to real size 12.

    I was wearing that skirt tonight and my colour scheme was black and brown with gold and gold-plated jewellery. Got a compliment of "I really like your outfit" from someone. Yay - someone called it an "outfit". Maybe I'm getting this "outfit" thing worked out

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    Re Seasalt - that is one of the few bits of clothing I can find round here in my style. Not very much of it - but there is a bit - and I imagine I should be able to get a shop that stocks them to order in any bits I want for me. I've learnt one of the ways of operating here for what chain shops there are here is to check out the website and then, almost certainly, the shop here will be too small to have it - but should order it in for me. I had to get the local Dorothy Perkins to order in the leggings I'd decided on for me - that rather surprises me that they had standard length ones here (ie for 5'6" women), but not petite ones. Most of the women in this area of the country are as short as I am - so I would have thought they'd be more likely to have the petite ones here.
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    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 14th Oct 18, 9:40 AM
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    I thought size 12 used to be a 24" waist and 36" hip. I'm sure it was in the 70s as I had babies and went up from a 10. I definitely didn't have a 26" waist. Maybe makes varied?
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    • By sugarbaby125 14th Oct 18, 10:26 AM
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    I thought size 12 used to be a 24" waist and 36" hip. I'm sure it was in the 70s as I had babies and went up from a 10. I definitely didn't have a 26" waist. Maybe makes varied?
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    Humpty you are correct. Size 12 definitely was 24 inches
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    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 10:52 AM
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    I thought size 12 used to be a 24" waist and 36" hip. I'm sure it was in the 70s as I had babies and went up from a 10. I definitely didn't have a 26" waist. Maybe makes varied?
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    I know it was always traditionally said that Marks & Spencer did "big" sizing. I think the "rule of thumb" was that the shops that catered for "older" customers did "bigger" sizing to a certain extent (probably only adding an extra 1" - rather than the 2"-3" of vanity sizing of today?). So I think Jaegar would have been that bit "bigger" than Dorothy Perkins for instance..

    Probably down to many women have children and things "change" one way or another??? at a guess. Whereas younger women didnt normally have children and hadnt had any of those "changes" going on???

    I've no idea what changes one might (or might not) expect from that - as my own mother didn't change one little bit after she'd had her children as far as I could see. She was still attracting wolf whistles and looking very good/flat stomach/don't think she had any stretch marks and generally looked very good in a bikini. Quite enviable...but she did get very lucky in the "looks luck of the drawer". Her one minus point being her fine hair (that was passed onto me unfortunately...). It's just old age that has caused that to change - with its withered skin/age spots (which she has a fine line in removing herself if they are on her face LOL)/the stomach has "gone" a bit.
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    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 10:57 AM
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    Humpty you are correct. Size 12 definitely was 24 inches
    Originally posted by sugarbaby125
    That would explain why I can remember looking along the size 14 clothes for a skirt one time back along. I think that would probably have been the 1970s.

    Maybe my suedette skirt is a 1980s one, rather than a 1970s one? I think it probably is...not bad going for a 30 year old skirt
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    • By lessonlearned 14th Oct 18, 11:39 AM
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    Chucking it down with rain, dark and depressing so I'm going to reorganise my bedroom. I just sort of guessed where to put stuff when I moved in, doing it quickly so as to get tidy and straight. Now I'm going to tweak it and get it more organised. I'm going to declutter as I go. It will probably take a couple of days so I'll make a start today. I'm still tired so I will take it relatively easy today.

    I'll be perfectly honest, I don't give a fig about sizing, labels etc. If it fits and I like it then it's my size. I can't see the point in getting bogged down with numbers, there's just too much variation. Not only is there a difference between manufacturers but also the cut of a garment makes a huge difference too. I honestly don't think it's worth fretting over. Just wear what fits you, what flatters you and enjoy. Don't waste precious time and energy about the number on the label. Life's too short.

    We are all so different that mass produced garments will always be hit and miss anyway. I agree though, It can be so frustrating. Unless of course you strike lucky and find a manufacturer whose sizing structure marries your shape you are always going to have a hunt on your hands. .

    I wouldn't class myself as particularly tall 5ft 7 but I have struggled to find the right trouser length in the past, especially when I was younger. They often ended up at "half mast" so for years I hardly wore trousers. I think younger women are generally taller (and bigger) now and this paradigm shift has worked in my favour. I now find it much easier to find trousers that fit. When it comes to dresses I have found Jacques Verte a very good fit for me. I can even order those online knowing they will be ok. I can't say that for many makes.

    I agree with Maman on this - if you are in the process of losing weight and need to buy clothes to tide you over then charity shops or some of the supermarkets can be a good choice. Personally I prefer Sainsbury's clothing to Asda. I think they have a slight edge on quality. Their stuff seems to wash and wear better, holding their shape and keeping their looks a bit longer but I do buy some bits from Asda. I've not really bought much from Tesco so cant comment. . We only have one large Tesco that sells clothing and it's not convenient.

    Right going to prep dinner and then get cracking on that bedroom, then a bit of handsewing later.

    Don't really feel like doing much today but needs must. I'm sure I'll feel better if I make the effort.
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    • maman
    • By maman 14th Oct 18, 2:23 PM
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    I'm sure I'll feel better if I make the effort.
    Originally posted by lessonlearned

    Well said LL, I think that's true of life in general!


    If you have a small Seasalt locally money then click and collect or similar is the way to go. Hope you find a coat that suits you. You might be lucky being shorter in that a coat will be long enough on you to ensure you don't get wet legs!


    Do take care reorganising your bedroom LL, I wouldn't want you to injure yourself moving any heavy furniture.


    I'm with you on the half mast trousers. Only this week I noticed a woman (just random waiting at a bus stop as I drove past) wearing trousers that stopped above the ankles. To compound it she had frumpy shoes and white socks with dark trousers! I'd hate to think I stood out like that for all the wrong reasons.


    It's been tipping down with rain here all morning too although it has slacked off a little. I've been busying myself with paperwork I brought back from my conference this week but just stopped to have some lunch and a bit of a break.


    Two lunches out planned this week where fabbing will be needed (both times in Winchester chanie). It's not that I don't make an effort at other times but I have definite 'house clothes' and 'going out' clothes. That being said, I do buy clothes specially for home these days not just wear off old stuff. It's generally leggings and a top of some sort.


    Lovely roast dinner planned for later. I'll enjoy that!
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 14th Oct 18, 2:31 PM
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    I know it was always traditionally said that Marks & Spencer did "big" sizing. I think the "rule of thumb" was that the shops that catered for "older" customers did "bigger" sizing to a certain extent (probably only adding an extra 1" - rather than the 2"-3" of vanity sizing of today?). So I think Jaegar would have been that bit "bigger" than Dorothy Perkins for instance..

    Probably down to many women have children and things "change" one way or another??? at a guess. Whereas younger women didnt normally have children and hadnt had any of those "changes" going on???

    I've no idea what changes one might (or might not) expect from that - as my own mother didn't change one little bit after she'd had her children as far as I could see. She was still attracting wolf whistles and looking very good/flat stomach/don't think she had any stretch marks and generally looked very good in a bikini. Quite enviable...but she did get very lucky in the "looks luck of the drawer". Her one minus point being her fine hair (that was passed onto me unfortunately...). It's just old age that has caused that to change - with its withered skin/age spots (which she has a fine line in removing herself if they are on her face LOL)/the stomach has "gone" a bit.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention

    I don't suppose you remember what size your mother was immediately postpartum, it generally takes a while for everything to return to normal. Certainly in my case after giving birth to a 10lb plus baby I didn't immediately return to 22". Breastfeeding helps but still probably took close to 6 months.
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    • By humptydumptybits 14th Oct 18, 2:32 PM
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    Chucking it down with rain, dark and depressing so I'm going to reorganise my bedroom. I just sort of guessed where to put stuff when I moved in, doing it quickly so as to get tidy and straight. Now I'm going to tweak it and get it more organised. I'm going to declutter as I go. It will probably take a couple of days so I'll make a start today. I'm still tired so I will take it relatively easy today.

    I'll be perfectly honest, I don't give a fig about sizing, labels etc. If it fits and I like it then it's my size. I can't see the point in getting bogged down with numbers, there's just too much variation. Not only is there a difference between manufacturers but also the cut of a garment makes a huge difference too. I honestly don't think it's worth fretting over. Just wear what fits you, what flatters you and enjoy. Don't waste precious time and energy about the number on the label. Life's too short.

    We are all so different that mass produced garments will always be hit and miss anyway. I agree though, It can be so frustrating. Unless of course you strike lucky and find a manufacturer whose sizing structure marries your shape you are always going to have a hunt on your hands. .

    I wouldn't class myself as particularly tall 5ft 7 but I have struggled to find the right trouser length in the past, especially when I was younger. They often ended up at "half mast" so for years I hardly wore trousers. I think younger women are generally taller (and bigger) now and this paradigm shift has worked in my favour. I now find it much easier to find trousers that fit. When it comes to dresses I have found Jacques Verte a very good fit for me. I can even order those online knowing they will be ok. I can't say that for many makes.

    I agree with Maman on this - if you are in the process of losing weight and need to buy clothes to tide you over then charity shops or some of the supermarkets can be a good choice. Personally I prefer Sainsbury's clothing to Asda. I think they have a slight edge on quality. Their stuff seems to wash and wear better, holding their shape and keeping their looks a bit longer but I do buy some bits from Asda. I've not really bought much from Tesco so cant comment. . We only have one large Tesco that sells clothing and it's not convenient.

    Right going to prep dinner and then get cracking on that bedroom, then a bit of handsewing later.

    Don't really feel like doing much today but needs must. I'm sure I'll feel better if I make the effort.
    Originally posted by lessonlearned

    It does vary, I'm 3" shorter than you, just bought 2 new pairs of M&S trousers and they need to be shortened. The petite were to short and regular too long. I guess that can't please everyone.


    I saw some lovely stuff in Sainsbury's today. Very retro pinafore in a fine cord, autumn colours with fine knit tops for underneath. It looked very 60s and I wished I was young enough to wear them. I'm wondering if DD might like them, she loves pockets and they had two big patch pockets on the front. I might run it past her. Living vicariously
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    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 2:48 PM
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    I don't suppose you remember what size your mother was immediately postpartum, it generally takes a while for everything to return to normal. Certainly in my case after giving birth to a 10lb plus baby I didn't immediately return to 22". Breastfeeding helps but still probably took close to 6 months.
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    The only comments she made about that were along the lines of "Someone I knew saw me out with you in a pram shortly after you were born and asked me whose baby you were - they'd seen me only a couple of months before you were born and not realised I was pregnant".

    I just know her size now - size 8 basically. 34B, 24, 34. Size 3 feet in narrow width.

    Yep...she's a "little old lady" now and has got me very well "trained" into knowing exactly what she'd like in any given respect Just as well - now that she's got me buying clothes for her sometimes.

    EDIT; Just taken another look at my suedette skirt and decided that maybe the fabric has "changed" a bit over the years - just binned it then. The other thought being that you do NOT want to know just how much I've just spent today on a pair of mules - ahem...errm...well I did just go online googling for what else there is in a brand of shoes I have a pair of (ie Naot) and I found them at total cost (including import costs from America) about 160. Ahem...as you were...well I could do with a pair of casual footwear to wear with blue jeans (one of my most frequent ways of dressing).
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    • By lessonlearned 14th Oct 18, 5:10 PM
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    Ooh pinafore dresses. Very Audrey Hepburn. why not, if you like it, go for it. Wear it in the house if you think it's "too young" to be seen outside. But I don't see why it should be. I dont see a pinafore dress as being "Mutton"

    Like Maman I now buy "at home clothes" rather than wearing tatty old worn out cast offs, Unless I'm decorating or doing really messy diy. I have a bag of diy - ing clothes.

    Well I've done well in the bedroom, calling it a day now. Went through all my clothes, reorganising the drawers. I think it will work better now, they seem more logically and better organised. I have a small bag of odds and ends ready for the recycling tomorrow. Not really good enough for the chazza, more suitable for rags if I'm honest, but they still make a bit of money out of them. I never let any textiles go to landfill.

    Tomorrow i will continue with linens, toiletries, meds etc., then on to books, CDs etc. I also need to do some paperwork this week.

    The small back bedroom is now almost empty. Just need to check out a corner where the surveyor picked up evidence of woodworm. I've had a quick look and I think it's historic rather than ongoing, I think the little blighters have long gone. However, I'll get the handyman to check the floor joists just in case. Then that room can be a study/exercise room.

    Re "snapping back into shape post partum". Most women don't. It takes several months. Breast feeding certainly helps the uterine muscles contract though. You actually feel it when you are feeding.
    I gently warned my DIL not to be too disappointed if she didn't immediately spring back into shape (especially as she is not naturally slender in the first place, although of course i didn't say that)
    She appreciates it will take a while, especially after a c section so she is happy enough.

    I think this is one area where celebs have put enormous pressure on young women - by giving a false image of new motherhood. But celebs have an army of helpers, stylists, dieticians and so on at their fingertips. They make it look easy but it's far from it.

    Money........don't measure yourself against your mother. That way lies madness.

    My mother was like a little porcelain doll, beautiful and exotic. By comparison I was like a big clumsy cart horse...... not forgetting the birthmark of course .....so I could never be accused of being "pretty". My sister was the family beauty, (still is), even as a baby she was jaw droppingly beautiful but I learned not to compare myself to them.

    So I decided I would concentrate on developing my own style. Ok I couldn't be cute and pretty but I could be striking and different. I learnt how to present myself well, how to dress, how to use my charm, my voice, my humour.

    I was always the quirky, arty, intelligent one - John Lennon rather than Paul MCCartney.
    Last edited by lessonlearned; 14-10-2018 at 5:24 PM.
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