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    • obay
    • By obay 12th Dec 17, 5:38 PM
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    Vape smoking?
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    • 12th Dec 17, 5:38 PM
    Vape smoking? 12th Dec 17 at 5:38 PM
    So,

    Just started using a vape after smoking for nearly 10-11 years, long time, around 15 per day 80-100 per week spent on smoking, just want to give it in.

    The problem I have is that my friends have been on vapes for 5 years + I do not want to end up like this, I am currently on 6mg of nicotine and will push my self per month to get my self down from 6 to 3 then 1. Ie, a maximum time of 6 months to be on this thing.

    How has it been for everyone to quit smoking the vape? I've always heard of people being addicted to smoking vape once they have finished smoking - has anyone got any personal experience of quitting smoking, then quitting the vape?
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    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 18th Dec 17, 10:09 AM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 10:09 AM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 10:09 AM
    Several people are suffered with addicate to Vape smoking?. If a person wants to quit the Vape smoking, then he must follow the good healthy food diets, regular exercise and finally attend the counselling to the health care expert. In a high addicated stage person must addimited to the rehabilation center. It will helpful to that person.
    Originally posted by elissawilliams
    What a load of bulls**t
    • SuperPikachu
    • By SuperPikachu 18th Dec 17, 12:47 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 12:47 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 12:47 PM
    As an ex smoker, I would advise you to try the Allen Carr book.

    That is how I quit 4years ago and haven't once wanted or thought about smoking since. I won't waste any time preaching because only you can make the right choice for your health
    "Wild Pikachu appeared!"
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 18th Dec 17, 12:59 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 12:59 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 12:59 PM
    I quit smoking 5 years ago and took up the vape.


    Best thing i ever did so congratulations in the first instance.
    I now completely feel like a non smoker ( I can breathe fully without any wheezing whatsoever - can smell and taste perfectly well again - dont stink like an ashtray etc etc etc)

    However I am just as hooked on the vape as i was on the cancer sticks and TBH i am happy to stay using it.


    So in short, you will have to work just as hard to kick this habbit - but it isnt killing you in the meantime
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • lillie421
    • By lillie421 18th Dec 17, 1:06 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 1:06 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 1:06 PM
    I did the same last year and I am still smoking my ecig but not half as much. I wouldn't worry about it too much, just take as much time as you need, as long as it is doing the trick then that's fine. It is addictive though, I agree but as the comment says above, you will have to stop this habbit which I am sure you are able to do if you can quit smoking. At the end of the day, a vape is better for you than smoking cigarettes.
    • Ilona
    • By Ilona 18th Dec 17, 1:52 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 1:52 PM
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    • 18th Dec 17, 1:52 PM
    What a load of bulls**t
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    True. elissawilliams is promoting a business. Ignore.

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    • Freddie Allen
    • By Freddie Allen 26th Dec 17, 11:48 AM
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    • 26th Dec 17, 11:48 AM
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    • 26th Dec 17, 11:48 AM
    It's true that vaping is also addictive. People use vapes because cigarettes are much more harmful to health than vapes. Vapes may have nicotine but they don't have tar, which is not good for lungs.
    That's why they start vaping instead of cigarettes.

    **Something is better than Nothing**
    HNY
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 26th Dec 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 26th Dec 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 26th Dec 17, 12:17 PM
    I quit smoking last January and took up vaping around Easter I use a 6mg and a bottle lasts two days so I'm not concerned at all about my vaping

    I started vaping as I found when out socialising with a drink, I missed the cigarette and I was popping out with the smokers and having a quick puff which I actually totally hated. But the craving when having a drink was really making me antsy. So I got an ecig.

    My husband calls it my dummy tit as I'm never without it, but I actually really enjoy vaping. It's nice to be able to vape inside whilst sitting relaxing watching the tv or reading or being on here. My husband also vapes and he's decided this coming year he's going to quit it I'm not. My GP is happy with me vaping, blood pressure is down , lung function has improved, no longer so short of breathe, my oral health is better , etc etc etc
    if you lend someone 20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • SuperPikachu
    • By SuperPikachu 28th Dec 17, 1:19 PM
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    • 28th Dec 17, 1:19 PM
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    • 28th Dec 17, 1:19 PM
    My GP is happy with me vaping, blood pressure is down , lung function has improved, no longer so short of breathe, my oral health is better , etc etc etc
    Originally posted by suki1964
    I am quite surprised by this - do GPs honestly advocate people being addicts nowadays?

    You are not addicted to "smoking", you are a nicotine addict whether you think of yourself as one or not, it is what you are - are you deep down ok with that?.
    "Wild Pikachu appeared!"
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 28th Dec 17, 3:08 PM
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    There are various juices with varying amounts of nicotine. You can start by reducing the nicotine in the juices.

    Long term e cigs /vaping should be a stepping stone to quitting completely. They are much better than smoking cigarettes but are by no means !!!8220;healthy!!!8221; and have risks of their own, albeit much less than smoking.
    • MRPEEVED
    • By MRPEEVED 29th Dec 17, 7:53 PM
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    I'm an addicted vaper and it costs more than actual cigarettes. I enjoy vaping but would like to stop. I agree the best plan is to decrease the nicotine strength.
    "Dummy tit" funniest thing I've read all day
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 29th Dec 17, 9:03 PM
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    I am quite surprised by this - do GPs honestly advocate people being addicts nowadays?

    You are not addicted to "smoking", you are a nicotine addict whether you think of yourself as one or not, it is what you are - are you deep down ok with that?.
    Originally posted by SuperPikachu

    Deep deep down? Yes I'm happy with vaping. My GP is happy I'm no longer smoking 30 a day and as I said previously, my health as can be measured is improving. My GP is probably even happier I'm not costing the NHS for BP checks and medication

    My dentist is happier cos I'm in and out twice a year, no need for expensive treatment which he has to supply on the NHS which barely covers his cost


    I guess you also dont agree with drug addicts being giving methodone, which is prescribed FOC to addicts- costing you the tax payer money

    My vaping costs you nothing and it's my health, not yours

    And whilst we are at it, I as an (ex) smoker have paid much more in taxes then you. If I was still a smoker, certain health treatments if I needed them would be denied, yet if I was a smoker I would be less of a burden on the NHS as I'd have died early and wouldn't be needing , knee, hip, cateracts ops, long term care in with Alzheimer's
    if you lend someone 20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • SuperPikachu
    • By SuperPikachu 31st Dec 17, 1:09 PM
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    Deep deep down? Yes I'm happy with vaping. My GP is happy I'm no longer smoking 30 a day and as I said previously, my health as can be measured is improving. My GP is probably even happier I'm not costing the NHS for BP checks and medication

    My dentist is happier cos I'm in and out twice a year, no need for expensive treatment which he has to supply on the NHS which barely covers his cost


    I guess you also dont agree with drug addicts being giving methodone, which is prescribed FOC to addicts- costing you the tax payer money

    My vaping costs you nothing and it's my health, not yours

    And whilst we are at it, I as an (ex) smoker have paid much more in taxes then you. If I was still a smoker, certain health treatments if I needed them would be denied, yet if I was a smoker I would be less of a burden on the NHS as I'd have died early and wouldn't be needing , knee, hip, cateracts ops, long term care in with Alzheimer's
    Originally posted by suki1964
    OK you have gone a bit awol in that last post as I did not mention taxpayers or the NHS once in my post and do not even care about that. Look, if you are happy being an addict then carry on.

    You are vaping so you ARE still a smoker by the way, especially if it has nicotine in it. How do you not understand that?
    "Wild Pikachu appeared!"
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 31st Dec 17, 1:14 PM
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    How can I be a smoker if there!!!8217;s no smoke?

    If I used nico tabs or patches, would I still be a smoker?

    I!!!8217;m leaving it here and agree to disagree

    Happy new year to you
    if you lend someone 20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 31st Dec 17, 3:23 PM
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    I'm an addicted vaper and it costs more than actual cigarettes. I enjoy vaping but would like to stop. I agree the best plan is to decrease the nicotine strength.
    "Dummy tit" funniest thing I've read all day
    Originally posted by MRPEEVED
    Up north it is normal to call a babies dummy or pacifier a 'dumb tit'
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
    • MRPEEVED
    • By MRPEEVED 3rd Jan 18, 6:03 PM
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    Up north it is normal to call a babies dummy or pacifier a 'dumb tit'
    Originally posted by McKneff
    Never heard it before, forgive me!
    • dori2o
    • By dori2o 5th Jan 18, 12:43 AM
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    To say that vapers are smokers because there is nicotine in the vape juice is wrong.

    For one you can actually buy nicotine free juice.

    Theres actually a vape kit sold as a weight loss aid which has no nicotine in the juice and the flavourings in the juice are designed to supress hunger.

    GP's are actively promoting vaping, and you can now even get a CBD vape pen via the NHS in some places for those people sufferring with chronic pain/depression/anxiety etc.

    I have several 'favourite' vape juices that I buy and I also have a CBD mixer that I add to the juice.

    I stopped smoking in 2009 after 14 years, but started vaping after my daughter died. Despite not smoking for 7 years the urge to smoke being sat in the relatives room in the hospital was 100x stronger than when I was a smoker and only got stronger in the next few days.

    It's relaxing, over 90% safer than cigs, doesnt smell, doesnt clog up my lungs, doesnt affect anyone else.

    Theres no difference between needing to have a vape in the morning, and needing a cup of coffee/tea to fully wake up in a morning.
    To equate judgement and wisdom with occupation is at best . . . insulting.
    • SuperPikachu
    • By SuperPikachu 5th Jan 18, 11:49 AM
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    Smoking = nicotine addiction. That is what I am saying.

    People smoke because they are addicted to nicotine. Nobody enjoys the taste, it is vile, you just become used to it. I know, I was a smoker as I already stated. People vape because they are still addicted to nicotine and think they are being healthier by doing so.

    Deal with your nicotine addiction and you will not need to smoke or vape.

    Also tea and coffee have caffeine in them which is also addictive. So yes you are right in saying there is no difference.

    Vaping no nicotine for the sake of doing so is probably just hiding some other issues you have - anxiety related perhaps? It is completely pointless. You should be dealing with your anxiety and not pretending to smoke.

    I don't mind if people disagree, and I shall not carry on with this discussion as it can only become an argument. You are unlikely to agree anyway as you are still addicts and have not sought help/probably don't care what I am saying either. That is fine too
    Last edited by SuperPikachu; 05-01-2018 at 2:22 PM.
    "Wild Pikachu appeared!"
    • WalterShannon
    • By WalterShannon 28th Feb 18, 2:46 PM
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    The only 1 thing I know for sure that it`s better to quit smoking at once then to decrease the amount of nicotine every period-it`s not effective...Good luck!
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 28th Feb 18, 7:32 PM
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    Smoking = nicotine addiction. That is what I am saying.

    People smoke because they are addicted to nicotine. Nobody enjoys the taste, it is vile, you just become used to it. I know, I was a smoker as I already stated. People vape because they are still addicted to nicotine and think they are being healthier by doing so.

    Deal with your nicotine addiction and you will not need to smoke or vape.

    Also tea and coffee have caffeine in them which is also addictive. So yes you are right in saying there is no difference.

    Vaping no nicotine for the sake of doing so is probably just hiding some other issues you have - anxiety related perhaps? It is completely pointless. You should be dealing with your anxiety and not pretending to smoke.

    I don't mind if people disagree, and I shall not carry on with this discussion as it can only become an argument. You are unlikely to agree anyway as you are still addicts and have not sought help/probably don't care what I am saying either. That is fine too
    Originally posted by SuperPikachu

    Nicotine isn't dangerous though, so if somebody is addicted to it in a way that doesn't harm them, what's the problem?
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