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    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 6th Dec 17, 7:55 PM
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    Lost Passwords
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    • 6th Dec 17, 7:55 PM
    Lost Passwords 6th Dec 17 at 7:55 PM

    OH's computer did the pointless microsoft fall update and now computer has lost it's passwords.

    Does anyone know why and how to get them back?

    This update is pointless as when my computer did it I can see no difference to before

    What differences are there supposed to be?
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    • John Gray
    • By John Gray 6th Dec 17, 8:27 PM
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    To which 'passwords' do you refer?
    To which 'update' do you refer?
    Not more than 1% of your readers are psychic...
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 6th Dec 17, 8:32 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 8:32 PM
    To which 'passwords' do you refer?
    To which 'update' do you refer?
    Not more than 1% of your readers are psychic...
    Originally posted by John Gray
    All passwords

    fall update - the big one
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 6th Dec 17, 8:51 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 8:51 PM
    Let's try another tack then , which passwords stored where ? e.g. my passwords for web sites are stored in Firefox/Thunderbird. My network passwords for the router are stored in Windows give us a clue
    Last edited by debitcardmayhem; 06-12-2017 at 8:54 PM.
    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 6th Dec 17, 8:59 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 8:59 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 8:59 PM

    OH's computer did the pointless microsoft fall update and now computer has lost it's passwords.

    Does anyone know why and how to get them back?

    This update is pointless as when my computer did it I can see no difference to before

    What differences are there supposed to be?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    I'd hardly call security updates pointless. Just because it looks the same doesn't mean it hasn't changed. You can easily find out all the changes with simple internet searches.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 6th Dec 17, 9:48 PM
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    Let's try another tack then , which passwords stored where ? e.g. my passwords for web sites are stored in Firefox/Thunderbird. My network passwords for the router are stored in Windows give us a clue
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem
    Games in particular
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 6th Dec 17, 9:49 PM
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    I'd hardly call security updates pointless. Just because it looks the same doesn't mean it hasn't changed. You can easily find out all the changes with simple internet searches.
    Originally posted by wongataa
    This is not just a 'security updates' it is reinstalling the whole OS it is major and takes ages
    • lammy82
    • By lammy82 6th Dec 17, 10:52 PM
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    • 6th Dec 17, 10:52 PM
    You need to be much more specific about what passwords you're talking about if anyone is going to be able to help you recover them.
    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 7th Dec 17, 8:15 AM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 8:15 AM
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    • 7th Dec 17, 8:15 AM
    This is not just a 'security updates' it is reinstalling the whole OS it is major and takes ages
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    Correct. Some of those updates mean a whole new OS. As stated before it is very easy to find out the changes if you are interested.
    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 7th Dec 17, 9:05 AM
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    Use a password manager, such as Keepass to keep a separate storage of passwords, ie on a USB stick... I updated 2 x laptops and 1 x desktop to the Win 10 Creators Edition from the earlier Win 10, no issues whatsoever. No loss of passwords in Firefox either.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 7th Dec 17, 9:08 AM
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    Is the password manager stored in the cloud - ie is there a a risk it could be hacked?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 7th Dec 17, 9:32 AM
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    Is the password manager stored in the cloud - ie is there a a risk it could be hacked?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    As stated previously:

    Use a password manager, such as Keepass to keep a separate storage of passwords, ie on a USB stick
    Originally posted by Frozen_up_north
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 7th Dec 17, 9:50 AM
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    OP - you need to be more specific.


    Exactly what passwords are you missing ?
    The answers you give will dictate the advice you get - at the moment it is impossible for anyone to help you with the info you have given.


    Let me prompt you a bit


    My guess is that you mean passwords to online stuff - where you are supposed to type log in information into a box, and that box is normally autofilled - but now it isnt ?


    Is that correct ?
    Please dont type a one word answer - expand a little - and then people can help you
    ie what browser are you using etc ?
    Running with scissors since 1978
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