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    • Vickyl1985
    • By Vickyl1985 29th Nov 17, 9:25 AM
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    PCN Appeal rejected by IAS
    • #1
    • 29th Nov 17, 9:25 AM
    PCN Appeal rejected by IAS 29th Nov 17 at 9:25 AM
    Please can anyone give me some advice...
    I received a PCN from Excel parking services at Liverpool airport for stopping in a no stopping zone for 30 seconds. The only reason I stopped was because I took a wrong turn and had to check out where I was and turnaround but I have been fined for stopping :-(

    The fine was issued 6/10/17 for 60. I didn't receive the first letter by post. I then received a final reminder for 100.00 by post on the 6/11/17.

    The fine is with Excel parking services. I appealed to them twice based on the fact that I was looking for a pre-booked car park and took a wrong turn and they rejected both appeals.
    I then went to the Independent appeals service and they also rejected my appeal.

    So now I'm left with a 100.00 fine to pay and dont know what to do next as I dont want a CCJ and my credit rating is currently good.

    Please help!

    Many Thanks
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 29th Nov 17, 10:07 AM
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    • #2
    • 29th Nov 17, 10:07 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 10:07 AM
    Welcome to the forum.

    First point, please do not panic about this. We!!!8217;ve dealt with hundreds of Liverpool John Lennon Airport (LJLA) !!!8216;stopping!!!8217; cases and no one has paid and other than irritating debt collector letters, none has gone any further.

    Are you sure your paperwork from the PPC has come from Excel (rather than their sister company, VCS)? If so, that!!!8217;s a big mistake of theirs as all the signage at the airport (the purported contract with you) is in the name of VCS. Excel are a stranger to this !!!8216;contract!!!8217; and are not in a position to pursue this legally.

    If you!!!8217;d have come to us earlier we would have advised that any appeal to the IAS was futile as no one has any real prospect of winning with them.

    You cannot get a CCJ unless you are taken to court and you lose. It won!!!8217;t affect your credit rating unless the judge awards costs against you and you refuse/forget to pay in full in the time allocated by the judge (normally one month). You are entirely in control of this.

    There has never been a court case for stopping at LJLA - so you shouldn!!!8217;t go worrying that you will be the first. Do come back if you receive any court papers - but no one ever has in the 5+ years that this sc@m has been operational there.

    So that you can be confident in my advice, do a forum search here, one on PePiPoo and one on Google for !!!8216;Liverpool Airport stopping fines!!!8217; (or similar). Here!!!8217;s a starter for you:

    Any questions, just raise them on this thread.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 29-11-2017 at 10:13 AM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Vickyl1985
    • By Vickyl1985 29th Nov 17, 10:40 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 10:40 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 10:40 AM
    Many thanks for your reply!
    I have only just come across this forum it's great and I wish I'd have come here sooner.
    Ok so my mistake the parking fine is indeed from VCS I have just checked.
    I will post back if I receive any court papers - fingers crossed it wont get that far.

    Thank you once again!
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 29th Nov 17, 10:52 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 10:52 AM
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    • 29th Nov 17, 10:52 AM
    No, come back if you get a Letter Before Action - something stating court action WILL happen

    Court papers.

    It isnt a fine - dont make it more scary sounding than it is. Its just an invoice.
    • Vickyl1985
    • By Vickyl1985 19th Jan 18, 10:04 AM
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    • #5
    • 19th Jan 18, 10:04 AM
    Update - Letter threatening court action
    • #5
    • 19th Jan 18, 10:04 AM
    Hi All,
    So today I got a letter from VCS with a 'Notice of intended court proceedings'

    They are again offering me to pay 100.00 by the 29/1/18 or they 'may' commence legal proceedings against me.

    What would be my next step here?

    It's making me very anxious!

    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 19th Jan 18, 10:06 AM
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    • #6
    • 19th Jan 18, 10:06 AM
    • #6
    • 19th Jan 18, 10:06 AM
    The Newbies FAQ thread (#2) covers how to rebut a lbcca and how to deal with a Court claim if it comes to this
    • Ralph-y
    • By Ralph-y 19th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
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    • #7
    • 19th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
    • #7
    • 19th Jan 18, 11:15 AM
    if you wish you can post up the letter ....


    "'may' commence legal proceedings against me."

    makes it sound like a threat o gram

    you , as a newbie can not post links ( no one can post pics) you have to host / upload the pic to some where like tinny pic / dropbucket
    and then post a link with the http bit changed to hxxp

    as Umkomaas said we get lots .... and lots .... and even more posts re JLA

    not one has so far made it to court

    so please re the links given to help calm youe self down ...

    Oh and ... I can beat your 30 secs .... mine was 8!!!!

    if you feel that you need to do some thing then please consider the forum campagin below ...

    Call for Action - submit evidence of private parking rip-offs Which? Magazine now! WHICH are asking again for consumer problems

    Which are pretty good at hitting the government with
    consumer problems.
    No harm in them hearing from you, I have done it for
    the great parking scam and their dodgly solicitors

    Only takes a couple of mins

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