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    • redfox
    • By redfox 6th Nov 17, 3:30 PM
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    Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2
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    Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2 6th Nov 17 at 3:30 PM
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    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 13th Apr 18, 11:25 PM
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    I had a Saturday job in Woollies. I started off in Fancy goods, moved onto pick and mix and ended up on the deli. I couldn't work the scales so just put whatever I thought in a bag
    Originally posted by TrulyMadly
    why am i not suprised that they moved you from fancy goods?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
    • Savvybuyer
    • By Savvybuyer 13th Apr 18, 11:33 PM
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    Hi. Thanks for this. My Asda is inside a shopping centre and I don't seem to see these receipts but will make a point of looking.
    Originally posted by Woolco
    What a shame - is there not another A somewhere else available to you that you can try (or also try)?

    Superstores seem to be better although you can find receipts occasionally outside supermarkets. Also Friday evening just after peak shopping time, Saturday afternoons and Sunday up to half an hour before closing seem to be the best times. The receipts may be in trolleys parked up in the trolley park(s) - take a couple of 1 coins to separate them if necessary.
    Last edited by Savvybuyer; 13-04-2018 at 11:38 PM.
    • TrulyMadly
    • By TrulyMadly 13th Apr 18, 11:39 PM
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    why am i not suprised that they moved you from fancy goods?
    Originally posted by davemorton
    For information...fancy goods was wallets, purses, ornaments and trinkets

    Didn't have a huge turnover
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    To be is to do. Sartre
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    • Woolco
    • By Woolco 13th Apr 18, 11:39 PM
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    I think A is the best and is the easiest one of all and I think is the one that most of us find gives the best returns. The fact it offers 10% cheaper increases the value of the vouchers from what they would be if it were merely a match and you can get vouchers even where A is cheaper (which it often is) but is not 10% cheaper. T offers discounts the same price to shoppers at the till on comparable branded items as the competitor that has the cheapest overall price for the total of the branded items bought where at least ten different items were bought. As you can see, it's fairly complicated and will result in people paying more for a branded item than a cheaper competitor where another competitor comes out cheapest overall on branded items and is more expensive on that branded item than the cheapest competitor. However the point for us is that as people have the Brand Guarantee applied at the till, there is no discarded voucher or receipt to be found. Otherwise you could try to collect CC or Nectar points but they are not immediately redeemable. In addition, if you are trying to use Nectar points to pay at S, you will, in my view, need to find more points to be able to buy anything worthwhile due to what I perceive to be S's generally higher prices. Therefore you will need to pay more to get the same number of items or get less for the money.

    At A you can simply collect receipts from outside the store (car parks, trolleys etc. but not bins as the contents of bins legally belong to the bin owner), with internet access enter the long receipt numbers into the website, create an account and claim/print vouchers that are offered. Take the vouchers with their original receipt and you can buy goods immediately from A.

    I wouldn't use receipts that are timed within minutes of each other on the same date against one shop. Be discreet (as everyone except myself easier manages to do whilst I always end up drawing attention to myself) and use no more than three vouchers against one shop. If you use four or five, don't do it too often.

    You can even get vouchers back from shops where you buy at least eight different grocery items that are in stock on A's website, especially if you do target shops. However, you can just pay for the odd one or two items as and when needed with each one voucher you get (however much is covered by the voucher amount). You could probably survive that way alone, depending on how many vouchers you manage to get and if you buy lower value essentials items such as the S/price range, even though they can work out more expensive than doing target shop glitches.

    If you find any items on wombled receipts that are on COS/Shopmum, you can submit those.

    Sorry to hear of your situation, although the vouchers could be worthwhile to anyone who is unemployed. Best of luck.

    I think T's scheme generally is not worthwhile unless you have coupons and a cheaper competitor price to match - but then need to buy nine more, in my view unnecessary items - you can't just buy the one item that you have a coupon for and get the match. It has the benefit of being easily understood by people generally, who probably think it is giving them something worthwhile. Somehow, simply entering a receipt number into a website is seen as too complicated. In fact it's easy, straightforward and can give near immediate vouchers for use off shops - and there's no doubt about where you need to go to spend them.
    Originally posted by Savvybuyer
    Well thank you very much for such good information and your kind words. Really appreciated.

    When I say it's too complicated, I was meaning it doesn't work. Like last week amongst other things I bought sugar free red bull can. 1.00 at Asda and the same price at Morrisons. But on the Asda website it shows N/A. so it didn't include this in the comparison with Morrisons. There was other items but I can't remember them. Whereas in Tesco tonight with brand match I bought the 3 meal deal and got the red bull and this gave me a reduction because Asda was 1 and Tesco was more.

    Also in my Asda if you give them a money off coupon it turns into a nightmare. I have tried this at self selection and the main stream tills. I end up mortified. With a Dr Otoker Pizza coupon they refused this and said I had to call pizza company and get a "proper" coupon. But it was a proper coupon printed off my email.
    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 13th Apr 18, 11:41 PM
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    Well thank you very much for such good information and your kind words. Really appreciated.

    When I say it's too complicated, I was meaning it doesn't work. Like last week amongst other things I bought sugar free red bull can. 1.00 at Asda and the same price at Morrisons. But on the Asda website it shows N/A. so it didn't include this in the comparison with Morrisons. There was other items but I can't remember them. Whereas in Tesco tonight with brand match I bought the 3 meal deal and got the red bull and this gave me a reduction because Asda was 1 and Tesco was more.

    Also in my Asda if you give them a money off coupon it turns into a nightmare. I have tried this at self selection and the main stream tills. I end up mortified. With a Dr Otoker Pizza coupon they refused this and said I had to call pizza company and get a "proper" coupon. But it was a proper coupon printed off my email.
    Originally posted by Woolco
    Devils advocate here, if you are looking to save money, red bull is the last thing you need on your shopping list.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
    • its a secret 66
    • By its a secret 66 13th Apr 18, 11:44 PM
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    its a secret 66
    [QUOTE=davemorton;74159051]
    It's Grand National Day Tomorrow. We have done it in the past, so against my better judgement, as I am carp at organising things, we should try to raise some money for good causes. Usual rules apply. Pick a number, copy the list (highlight, then press Ctrl 'C'), then paste it into a new post (press Ctrl 'V') and I will do my best to keep up with the chaos. I will request someone as my trusty person who will keep a copy list to the horses/corresponding numbers to make sure I don't cheat. The winner gets to choose the cause and we all pay our 2 to that cause. I hope im not breaking any forum rules, as all charity links/donation links will be put onto the relevant forum section. As ever there's no obligation to take part at all, and if it all goes breastage up, blame Bubbs Oh, and if you pick a non runner/donkey/3 legged albatross, tough!
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    hi all is it okay if i have number 40 please . thank you
    • Savvybuyer
    • By Savvybuyer 13th Apr 18, 11:48 PM
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    Well thank you very much for such good information and your kind words. Really appreciated.

    When I say it's too complicated, I was meaning it doesn't work.
    Originally posted by Woolco


    Like last week amongst other things I bought sugar free red bull can. 1.00 at Asda and the same price at Morrisons. But on the Asda website it shows N/A. so it didn't include this in the comparison with Morrisons. There was other items but I can't remember them. Whereas in Tesco tonight with brand match I bought the 3 meal deal and got the red bull and this gave me a reduction because Asda was 1 and Tesco was more.

    Also in my Asda if you give them a money off coupon it turns into a nightmare. I have tried this at self selection and the main stream tills. I end up mortified. With a Dr Otoker Pizza coupon they refused this and said I had to call pizza company and get a "proper" coupon. But it was a proper coupon printed off my email.
    Originally posted by Woolco
    Yes you have to buy items that are in stock on their website otherwise they don't appear. (This can be of benefit though if they are in a mbuy deal and another item in the mbuy on mix and match that is on the site in stock then has to compare at full individual price vs cheaper elsewhere.)

    The TBG can be of benefit for meal deals; these are one of the few situations in which shopping at T may be better (where you have access to competing stores anyway) as meal deals are an excluded offer so T compares at its own full prices!

    I have heard A can be bad on manufacturer's coupons. However generally they have no problems with APGs. Just be aware that, at self-service, the vouchers now have to be entered by Key In Code and then the long number from the voucher itself, followed by scanning the receipt (or entering its TC# - the same number as the one used to check the receipt online on the APG site) - and that, at some stores, SS staff may pounce on you (some may also insist you can't do it that way as they are not aware of how their own machines work). Also if you have vouchers of the exact value of your shop or if the vouchers are only a few pence lower, leaving that few pence to pay, buying loose produce or, I think, meat or fish of variable weight (priced by weight) will cause the final voucher (or only voucher) on your shop to fail as it will not recognise its value and will think you haven't got a bill of higher than the voucher amount(s). I heard this could be resolved by adding a 5p carrier bag - however I added one to one of my shops once and got a fail (I think the bag caused the voucher failure - the voucher would have been, from experience, fine and would have gone through with no problem at all with the other two items in my shop, both grocery items, had they hit the voucher value by themselves instead of being 2p short - I thought a bag would be the simplest way to resolve it but no) - so the staff member then had to enter the voucher value manually.

    I just try to avoid things like that, which draw attention. I think the system must assign a random value to weighed fruit and veg. like a penny which is lower than its true value (that obviously varies depending on how big your banana or carrot or whatever), hence thinks you haven't spend enough to reach the total value of your voucher(s). I've had staff insist it will be fine if I add a loose banana, when I know it won't be (again because they don't know their own system) - and then I found the voucher went through fine because I'd already overshot the voucher amount and didn't need to buy the banana at all. Yes in true money-saving style, I put it back at that point and paid nowt. (Actually I did pay - I paid the vouchers I used.)
    Last edited by Savvybuyer; 14-04-2018 at 12:03 AM.
    • Woolco
    • By Woolco 13th Apr 18, 11:50 PM
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    Devils advocate here, if you are looking to save money, red bull is the last thing you need on your shopping list.
    Originally posted by davemorton
    Hi Dave, the red bull is my treat each week. I don't gamble money, or go to bars but I was only meaning this is one thing I can remember off the bill.
    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 13th Apr 18, 11:52 PM
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    Hi Dave, the red bull is my treat each week. I don't gamble money, or go to bars but I was only meaning this is one thing I can remember off the bill.
    Originally posted by Woolco
    Everyone to their own, just I have seen the harm it can do to people, and have a thing against it, ignore me.

    Everyone deserves a treat though
    Last edited by davemorton; 13-04-2018 at 11:56 PM.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
    • Woolco
    • By Woolco 14th Apr 18, 12:02 AM
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    Woolco




    Yes you have to buy items that are in stock on their website otherwise they don't appear. (This can be of benefit though if they are in a mbuy deal and another item in the mbuy on mix and match that is on the site in stock then has to compare at full individual price vs cheaper elsewhere.)

    The TBG can be of benefit for meal deals; these are one of the few situations in which shopping at T may be better (where you have access to competing stores anyway) as meal deals are an excluded offer so T compares at its own full prices!

    I have heard A can be bad on manufacturer's coupons. However generally they have no problems with APGs. Just be aware that, at self-service, the vouchers now have to be entered by Key In Code and then the long number from the voucher itself, followed by scanning the receipt (or entering its TC# - the same number as the one used to check the receipt online on the APG site) - and that, at some stores, SS staff may pounce on you (some may also insist you can't do it that way as they are not aware of how their own machines work). Also if you have vouchers of the exact value of your shop or if the vouchers are only a few pence lower, leaving that few pence to pay, buying loose produce or, I think, meat or fish of variable weight (priced by weight) will cause the final voucher (or only voucher) on your shop to fail as it will not recognise its value and will think you haven't got a bill of higher than the voucher amount(s). I heard this could be resolved by adding a 5p carrier bag - however I added one to one of my shops once and got a fail (I think the bag caused the voucher failure) - so the staff member then had to enter its value manually. I just try to avoid things like that, which draw attention.
    Originally posted by Savvybuyer
    Well thanks again Savvybuyer. That information is now all stored up there. *points finger at head*

    But see really if I do brand match instead of price guarantee, am I really just losing 10% ? I think I could live with that. Like tonight Tesco took 2.40 off my bill because of Jacobs crackers on checkoutsmart and the can of red bull. Whereas would Asda just have given me a coupon for say 3?
    • michaels
    • By michaels 14th Apr 18, 12:04 AM
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    Watched some netball the other night, bit confusing if you ask me.
    Originally posted by davemorton
    I get the pleasure of spending stupidly early time outside on Sunday mornings watching netball, judging by the number of whistle blows there must be an awful lot of rules. Saturday mornings watching football is just as cold but at least the game makes sense

    Too many pages today, must be Bubbs posting again...

    Geegees, could I have 69 please - or failing that can I be straight under hippyc please.
    Cool heads and compromise
    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 14th Apr 18, 12:12 AM
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    I get the pleasure of spending stupidly early time outside on Sunday mornings watching netball, judging by the number of whistle blows there must be an awful lot of rules. Saturday mornings watching football is just as cold but at least the game makes sense

    Too many pages today, must be Bubbs posting again...

    Geegees, could I have 69 please - or failing that can I be straight under hippyc please.
    Originally posted by michaels
    Only goes to 40, so looks like you have Hippychick on top of you.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
    • Sunflower1227
    • By Sunflower1227 14th Apr 18, 12:13 AM
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    Hello
    I had a womble yesterday where the receipt shows a multi buy savin g toiletries 3F2, but the items all show full price on the Asda price guarantee comparison


    2x Aussie Miracle Moist Conditioner For Dry,Really Thirsty Hair (90ml) 4.40 3.00
    1x Aussie Miracle Moist Shampoo For Dry,Really Thirsty Hair (90ml) 2.20 1.50

    I have looked online and these are the travel toiletries which are 3 for 2 in store. If you click on the aeroplane you can see all the other items in the offer. May be useful as fillers if any are cheaper elsewhere?

    Thank you all for posting all these bargains online, very helpful x
    Originally posted by zee25
    Don't forget you can claim 1.50 back on supersavyme for any Aussie product
    I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can choose which it shall be. Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn't arrived yet. I have just one day, today, and I'm going to be happy in it.
    • davemorton
    • By davemorton 14th Apr 18, 12:13 AM
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    It's Grand National Day Tomorrow. We have done it in the past, so against my better judgement, as I am carp at organising things, we should try to raise some money for good causes. Usual rules apply. Pick a number, copy the list (highlight, then press Ctrl 'C'), then paste it into a new post (press Ctrl 'V') and I will do my best to keep up with the chaos. I will request someone as my trusty person who will keep a copy list to the horses/corresponding numbers to make sure I don't cheat. The winner gets to choose the cause and we all pay our 2 to that cause. I hope im not breaking any forum rules, as all charity links/donation links will be put onto the relevant forum section. As ever there's no obligation to take part at all, and if it all goes breastage up, blame Bubbs Oh, and if you pick a non runner/donkey/3 legged albatross, tough!
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    40 its a secret 66
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
    • Woolco
    • By Woolco 14th Apr 18, 12:20 AM
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    I had a Saturday job in Woollies. I started off in Fancy goods, moved onto pick and mix and ended up on the deli. I couldn't work the scales so just put whatever I thought in a bag
    Originally posted by TrulyMadly
    Can you remember your store number and all the codes? LOL.

    I can!

    Things seemed better back then eh?
    • Savvybuyer
    • By Savvybuyer 14th Apr 18, 12:22 AM
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    Well thanks again Savvybuyer. That information is now all stored up there. *points finger at head*

    But see really if I do brand match instead of price guarantee, am I really just losing 10% ? I think I could live with that. Like tonight Tesco took 2.40 off my bill because of Jacobs crackers on checkoutsmart and the can of red bull. Whereas would Asda just have given me a coupon for say 3?
    Originally posted by Woolco
    That's talking about your own shops - but, if you need money to buy them in the first place, such as vouchers to do so, that's best with A.

    10% can be very little value. It would not look so great if it were called "Pay 90% of the price of the competitor". Especially on cheap items - for example something 50p at a competitor that's cheaper at the competitor gives just 5p. Even several low value items add up to very little. I often moan about particularly essentials shops, that are so expensive because the difference in price to competitors is not large enough - in fact they're same price on many of their items and ten per cent is a few pence except on their rollbacks that often lose money on the APG due to more likely being more than 10% cheaper - or else cuts your shop to being against the one competitor that happens to have it on offer - and then it loses because another rollback is cheaper at another competitor but full price (A is more than 10% cheaper) at the first.
    Although the end result is the same, I get more APG if an item is full price 1.98 in A and 1 at a targeted competitor than if it's on 1 rollback and price-matched to the 1 competitor - just 10p onto the voucher and the voucher then hardly worth printing.

    I don't know how TBG works out for you - as to whether you are losing, it depends on what you are buying. When someone switches to A, it has to be viewed the other way around - so that it is T's cheaper prices, where A has equivalents, that could potentially be got 10% cheaper than T at A (however it doesn't work on whoopsies and goes by items on T's website). In T, we are looking for same price as A or A's prices less the value of coupons or CB that pays on the basis of T's shelf price (assuming that is the price it scans at at the till/self-service and appears on the receipt) rather than on A's price.

    I have no idea what finger-pointing at your head means. Don't do gestures - I mean I don't do gestures - not of that type anyway, that don't mean words - no idea about any but the most obvious and most overt body language as I am apparently autistic. Hence why I draw attention by fumbling around at the till, not looking at people, or else get fail to be noticed by anyone at all. I spend literally hours trying in vain to attract someone's attention when the self-service messes up or I need to cancel an item (well, not literally). They don't - they don't notice I am there, trying to wave loudly at them: they go to anyone else instead as they can see them giving signals for assistance. Me - they'll turn round and face the other way, chatting to someone else that got their attention whilst behind them and their body language able to be transmitted behind someone for them still to notice it. I must either not transmit body language to anyone or else transmit body language that I am unaware of that is unknown or confusing to others or doesn't transmit anything or transmits the opposite of what I am feeling and thinking.

    At the till, I'll be thinking inside "Can you stop chatting to that customer in front and just get rid of them and move to serving me?" Other people second in the queue doubtless transmit that immediately and the cashier quickly realises they are waiting and does not continue into a long conversation with the customer in front and ignores the next person in the line, seemingly unaware they are there. People inadvertently ignore me (it's not their fault, they don't get any body language from me as I am unable to give it or do not know what to give). I can be there "I am bored, I am waiting, I am waiting, I am waiting" - desperately trying to transmit that to the assistant but they will not realise and will continue chatting, seemingly oblivious to my standing there, waiting and waiting and waiting patiently on the outside for ages. They only move up if someone else comes to wait behind me. Then they probably realise they are waiting, not me. I'll be trying to say "I am bored and I'm waiting and waiting" by my body (of course I cannot voice aloud as I'm not able to interrupt or know when a cue in the conversation comes for me to be able to find the nanosecond at which an interruption is able to be made and is not rude). No-one else will get that I am waiting inside. Maybe I need to think "I am happy here and completely patient and not waiting at all" and then that will cause my body to give the signal that I am waiting and then they will realise. I do not know how to stand or look to indicate my inner impatience. Even if I did, I feel I could not get precisely right the exact microsecond at which a glance or body language look needs to be given and the way in which it needs to happen. I think I may have got a response once when I thought the opposite of what I actually thought - but even then I do not know how my body looked or didn't.

    In fact I haven't a clue about body language at all - obvious and completely stand-out smiling means you are happy and crying your eyes out means you are upset. Beyond that I do not see or have a clue.

    ()

    I bet my autism does show in my detailed replies (that people not on the spectrum won't know or be easily able to comprehend as it comes across as rambling as it contains too many points to be understood easily - to me, too much information is never too much as, of course, I know everything and know it all).
    Last edited by Savvybuyer; 14-04-2018 at 12:43 AM.
    • Woolco
    • By Woolco 14th Apr 18, 12:37 AM
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    Woolco
    That's talking about your own shops - but, if you need money to buy them in the first place, such as vouchers to do so, that's best with A.

    10% can be very little value. It would not look so great if it were called "Pay 90% of the price of the competitor". Especially on cheap items - for example something 50p at a competitor that's cheaper at the competitor gives just 5p. Even several low value items add up to very little. I often moan about particularly essentials shops, that are so expensive because the difference in price to competitors is not large enough - in fact they're same price on many of their items and ten per cent is a few pence except on their rollbacks that often lose money on the APG due to more likely being more than 10% cheaper - or else cuts your shop to being against the one competitor that happens to have it on offer - and then it loses because another rollback is cheaper at another competitor but full price (A is more than 10% cheaper) at the first.
    Although the end result is the same, I get more APG if an item is full price 1.98 in A and 1 at a targeted competitor than if it's on 1 rollback and price-matched to the 1 competitor - just 10p onto the voucher and the voucher then hardly worth printing.

    I don't know how TBG works out for you - as to whether you are losing, it depends on what you are buying. When someone switches to A, it has to be viewed the other way around - so that it is T's cheaper prices, where A has equivalents, that could potentially be got 10% cheaper than T at A (however it doesn't work on whoopsies and goes by items on T's website). In T, we are looking for same price as A or A's prices less the value of coupons or CB that pays on the basis of T's shelf price (assuming that is the price it scans at at the till/self-service and appears on the receipt) rather than on A's price.

    I have no idea what finger-pointing at your head means. Don't do gestures - I mean I don't do gestures - not of that type anyway, that don't mean words - no idea about any but the most obvious and most overt body language as I am apparently autistic. Hence why I draw attention by fumbling around at the till, not looking at people, or else get fail to be noticed by anyone at all. I spend literally hours trying in vain to attract someone's attention when the self-service messes up or I need to cancel an item (well, not literally). They don't - they don't notice I am there, trying to wave loudly at them: they go to anyone else instead as they can see them giving signals for assistance. Me - they'll turn round and face the other way, chatting to someone else that got their attention whilst behind them and their body language able to be transmitted behind someone for them still to notice it.

    In fact I haven't a clue about body language at all - obvious and completely stand-out smiling means you are happy and crying your eyes out means you are upset. Beyond that I do not see or have a clue.

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    I bet my autism does show in my detailed replies (that people not on the spectrum won't know or be easily able to comprehend as it comes across as rambling as it contains too many points to be understood easily - to me, too much information is never too much as, of course, I know everything and know it all).
    Originally posted by Savvybuyer
    Hi Savvybuyer. Finger pointing at head was just meaning you have taught me stuff I didn't know and it is now in my head. I can say that autism doesn't show in your replies. Your replies are amazing and will help me save some money.
    Last edited by Woolco; 14-04-2018 at 12:54 AM.
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    • By Savvybuyer 14th Apr 18, 12:56 AM
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    It has its benefits - I think I am usually less easily noticed when I am collecting receipts. People around me will not notice me especially when they are talking (through spoken voice not body language though they are doing that too) to someone else and all their attention is in that. I could probably burgle a house unnoticed, although I would not attempt to do so (or therefore actually do so, obviously). Just making the point that people generally don't notice things (other than the presence of other people who are not autistic). Whereas I notice everything - except the body language of other people. I could get up to real mischief but I certainly won't - particularly as I am the rules-complier. I will notice signs and take them literally - whilst no-one else would pay them any attention or even notice them let alone attempt to comply with them.
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    • By Savvybuyer 14th Apr 18, 1:11 AM
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    Hi Savvybuyer. Finger pointing at head was just meaning you have taught me stuff I didn't know and it is now in my head. I can say that autism doesn't show in your replies. Your replies are amazing and will help me save some money.
    Originally posted by Woolco
    It does. It's there, subtly, in the wording, the expression, even if you didn't notice it. The correctness (or attempt at correctness that actually fails to achieve it, unknowingly). Out of interest (or none), they (in this case the National Autistic Society) say you can't tell by looking at someone that someone is autistic. Oh, I think you can. I don't mean by detailed study of the way in which someone walks, which I think can give a clue - or noticing their lack of body language/eye contact. I think autistic people do tend to look a certain way - a certain expression, a certain facial look, possibly so detailed that it's only visible to an autistic person. I don't know - it's just people that reveal they are autistic seem to me sometimes (or often) to have this look. Obviously different people have different faces and there are some characteristics of non-autistic people that overlap and make tend to make them look "autistic" - or more likely the reverse, someone who has autism may look almost not. But I think there is a certain subtlety there that tends to indicate to me that people may have autism - or I notice it when I know they are autistic and see how they look. Or maybe it is a face affected by depression illnesses, that people who have autism are perhaps more likely to suffer from. I wouldn't say it was sad though - it's this face of cluenessness or dithering (), something that indicates a square peg standing not knowing what to do or not in a situation they have encountered or looking like a bit lost. I know this is painting a very unflattering image of myself that is not in my interest. I am not here to paint myself good though - but will tell you even if it makes me look bad. People who have autism tend to be like this - or rather I am - I reveal reasons to reject me rather than making myself look good. I am not here for self-interested reasons but truly altruistic and do things against my own interest sometimes in the name of truth and honesty, otherwise called not giving a very good impression.

    However, I wouldn't say anyone should use any of what I say to try to diagnise someone, as I think you'll probably be wrong. Assumptions that people make are often wrong. (Can I add to you'll probably be wrong, especially if you are not on the autism spectrum or would that be seen as rude as too truthful? However, the exact wording is important - as ever. "Especially if" does not mean automatically if - just means maybe non-autistic people might tend to be more likely to get this particular thing wrong whereas an autistic person may be able to spot it more likely to be right. But just because they may tend to be (not actually be) more likely to be right (even assuming I was correct that they were) they may be wrong and the non-autistic person that was merely "more likely" to be wrong might be right.)
    Last edited by Savvybuyer; 14-04-2018 at 1:22 AM.
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    • By Woolco 14th Apr 18, 1:37 AM
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    Hi. Well its a big THANK YOU for now. My eyes are closing. Night.
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