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    • melbury
    • By melbury 29th Oct 17, 10:07 AM
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    Fleas
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    • 29th Oct 17, 10:07 AM
    Fleas 29th Oct 17 at 10:07 AM
    I treated our dog with Frontline nearly three weeks ago and he still has fleas and is continually scratching/biting/licking.

    I always used Frontline on our other dogs and never had a flea problem, but see that many people are saying Frontline doesn't work anymore.

    I am going to order some Advantage today, as that has very good reviews.

    Does anyone know if is okay to change over from Frontline to Advantage provided that I wait for a full month since using the Frontline? I don't want to overdose him on chemicals

    I have also ordered a product called Aromesse to try and ease the itching for the next week and a bit.
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    • borkid
    • By borkid 29th Oct 17, 10:14 AM
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    I'm not sure if it's the same with dogs but with cats if they have fleas you also need to treat the furnishings in the house, upholstery, carpets and animal bedding, basically anywhere the fleas can hide.
    • Callie22
    • By Callie22 29th Oct 17, 10:34 AM
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    It's probably different for dogs but I have a cat and found Advocate better than Advantage - Advantage seemed to irritate my cat's skin and made a little patch of fur fall out, but Advocate seems to cause her fewer problems (and less whinging when I apply it!) I switched from one to the other by just using it at the normal time, I don't think there'll be an issue if you do that as they're both designed to be monthly treatments.
    • chucknorris
    • By chucknorris 31st Oct 17, 8:22 AM
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    • 31st Oct 17, 8:22 AM
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    • 31st Oct 17, 8:22 AM
    I treated our dog with Frontline nearly three weeks ago and he still has fleas and is continually scratching/biting/licking.

    I always used Frontline on our other dogs and never had a flea problem, but see that many people are saying Frontline doesn't work anymore.

    I am going to order some Advantage today, as that has very good reviews.

    Does anyone know if is okay to change over from Frontline to Advantage provided that I wait for a full month since using the Frontline? I don't want to overdose him on chemicals

    I have also ordered a product called Aromesse to try and ease the itching for the next week and a bit.
    Originally posted by melbury
    I'm in a sort of similar situation, my wife forgot to his administer frontline, we usually do so monthly, although it is supposed to last longer. I think that it might have been as long as 2 months before I noticed fleas on our dog.

    I rang the vet, and they said we should switch to Advantage anyway, when I said that I had just administered frontline (on the Friday), they said it would be OK to use Advantage on the Monday. But we didn't do that (I was still concerned) what we did do was:

    1. Gave him Johnsons 4fleas tablets (available over the counter at most large pet shops), they killed the fleas on him (but don't offer ongoing preventative protection). But they can be used in addition to frontline. It was really good at killing them, but we did also give him a tablet for the following 2 days, as we spotted the odd flea on him (which had probably had hopped onto him after the first tablet usefulness had expired.

    2. We immediately hoovered our carpets and soft furnishings (low level) and spayed with a spray that kills adult, larvae and other stages of the fleas's life cycle, and continues to do so for a few weeks. You need to do this because 95% of an infestation is off the dog.The spay is also available at most good pet shops (make sure you get a one that kills all stages of the fleas life cycle, not just adult fleas).

    We will be switching to Advantage, but I have a years supply of frontline, so I may switch intermittently (subject to the shelf life of our frontline) and also check that there are no issues with changing from one to another.
    Last edited by chucknorris; 31-10-2017 at 8:31 AM.
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    • melbury
    • By melbury 2nd Nov 17, 9:37 PM
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    I'm in a sort of similar situation, my wife forgot to his administer frontline, we usually do so monthly, although it is supposed to last longer. I think that it might have been as long as 2 months before I noticed fleas on our dog.

    I rang the vet, and they said we should switch to Advantage anyway, when I said that I had just administered frontline (on the Friday), they said it would be OK to use Advantage on the Monday. But we didn't do that (I was still concerned) what we did do was:

    1. Gave him Johnsons 4fleas tablets (available over the counter at most large pet shops), they killed the fleas on him (but don't offer ongoing preventative protection). But they can be used in addition to frontline. It was really good at killing them, but we did also give him a tablet for the following 2 days, as we spotted the odd flea on him (which had probably had hopped onto him after the first tablet usefulness had expired.

    2. We immediately hoovered our carpets and soft furnishings (low level) and spayed with a spray that kills adult, larvae and other stages of the fleas's life cycle, and continues to do so for a few weeks. You need to do this because 95% of an infestation is off the dog.The spay is also available at most good pet shops (make sure you get a one that kills all stages of the fleas life cycle, not just adult fleas).

    We will be switching to Advantage, but I have a years supply of frontline, so I may switch intermittently (subject to the shelf life of our frontline) and also check that there are no issues with changing from one to another.
    Originally posted by chucknorris
    Thanks, I have just ordered some Advantage.

    It will be a month on Wednesday since we used the Frontline, so will apply the Advantage then and hope it works and doesn't cause him any problems.
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    • Katiehound
    • By Katiehound 3rd Nov 17, 9:03 PM
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    Thanks, I have just ordered some Advantage.

    It will be a month on Wednesday since we used the Frontline, so will apply the Advantage then and hope it works and doesn't cause him any problems.
    Originally posted by melbury
    I would contact the provider of the Advantage and just check that you aren't overdosing him on nasty chemicals as that might be very harmful. (Or phone your vet!)
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    • melbury
    • By melbury 5th Nov 17, 6:29 PM
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    I would contact the provider of the Advantage and just check that you aren't overdosing him on nasty chemicals as that might be very harmful. (Or phone your vet!)
    Originally posted by Katiehound
    I asked the supplier(PDO) and also many people have used it even sooner after using Frontline and say no problem.

    He is pretty miserable scratching/biting/licking all the time, so it will be a relief to get rid of the fleas - fingers crossed.
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    • Katapolt
    • By Katapolt 23rd Nov 17, 9:17 AM
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    My Yorkie has a terrible problem with fleas, and we have 3 cats also, so it can be a nightmare keeping on top of it all!

    If i see fleas this is my usual course of action:
    - bath the dog straight away with a flea shampoo. give them a good scrub to detach any that are clinging on.
    -hoover all carpets, stairs, sofa ect that they use.
    -chuck bedding/blankets ect in a hot wash
    -spray anything i cant wash with a flea killer spray

    And to help with the skin complain side of it, a nice little doggy massage with some coconut oil works wonders!
    • chucknorris
    • By chucknorris 23rd Nov 17, 7:08 PM
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    • 23rd Nov 17, 7:08 PM
    My Yorkie has a terrible problem with fleas, and we have 3 cats also, so it can be a nightmare keeping on top of it all!

    If i see fleas this is my usual course of action:
    - bath the dog straight away with a flea shampoo. give them a good scrub to detach any that are clinging on.
    -hoover all carpets, stairs, sofa ect that they use.
    -chuck bedding/blankets ect in a hot wash
    -spray anything i cant wash with a flea killer spray

    And to help with the skin complain side of it, a nice little doggy massage with some coconut oil works wonders!
    Originally posted by Katapolt
    We are still dealing with fleas, although he (our dog) seems to be clear, or at least only one or two every few days, we are still being bitten. So we have had to re-do the house (spraying/washing etc.), we are beginning to realise that this might take some time.

    For the long term I have gone to 'belt and braces' we now use Program' (which perverts fleas from breading) on top of the Frontline (spot on treatment). I think we might switch to 'Advantage' soon (for the pot on treatment).
    Last edited by chucknorris; 23-11-2017 at 7:20 PM.
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    • pawsies
    • By pawsies 25th Nov 17, 9:00 PM
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    If you plan to get advantage I suggest you order it this weekend while it's going cheap.

    http://www.petshop.co.uk/Brand/Advantage
    • melbury
    • By melbury 26th Nov 17, 10:35 AM
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    We are still dealing with fleas, although he (our dog) seems to be clear, or at least only one or two every few days, we are still being bitten. So we have had to re-do the house (spraying/washing etc.), we are beginning to realise that this might take some time.

    For the long term I have gone to 'belt and braces' we now use Program' (which perverts fleas from breading) on top of the Frontline (spot on treatment). I think we might switch to 'Advantage' soon (for the pot on treatment).
    Originally posted by chucknorris
    Haven't seen one on him for a while, but he is still scratching quite a bit. I read that it can take a couple of months for the fleas around the house to jump aboard and get wiped out. I look on him as a flea killing machine on legs now
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    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 26th Nov 17, 1:07 PM
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    He can be picking up new fleas every time he goes out.
    • iammumtoone
    • By iammumtoone 26th Nov 17, 1:15 PM
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    . I look on him as a flea killing machine on legs now
    Originally posted by melbury
    He is, thats how it works.

    Many people when cats get fleas think the answer is to keep the cat outside for as long as possible until the fleas go, its not, its the other way round, you need to keep the treated animal in the house as much as possible.
    • dogcat
    • By dogcat 3rd Dec 17, 3:33 PM
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    I had terrible problems with fleas on my two rescue mioritic shepherds. I tried everything. Advantage, frontline, Johnson!!!8217;s......tried garlic capsules, salt, vinegar...you name it. We had fleas everywhere. I was at my wits end.

    In the end I took them to the vets.....they were given a huge chewable tablet each....and spray for the whole house. Wow what a difference! Why didn!!!8217;t I do that in the first place! .
    • Soph1988
    • By Soph1988 3rd Dec 17, 7:48 PM
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    My vet is insistent that the ONLY thing that works anymore is Advocate.
    • dogcat
    • By dogcat 5th Dec 17, 6:47 PM
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    My vet is insistent that the ONLY thing that works anymore is Advocate.
    Originally posted by Soph1988
    My vet told me off the shelf stuff doesn’t work.....I tend to agree with her.
    • Kim_13
    • By Kim_13 7th Dec 17, 7:21 AM
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    My vet told me off the shelf stuff doesn’t work.....I tend to agree with her.
    Originally posted by dogcat
    Certainly seems to be the case here, especially if the dog is allergic to fleas as one of ours is. He needed two chewable tabs from the vet vs one for the other dog.
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    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 7th Dec 17, 8:00 AM
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    In the end I took them to the vets.....they were given a huge chewable tablet each....and spray for the whole house. Wow what a difference! Why didn!!!8217;t I do that in the first place! .
    Originally posted by dogcat
    I had the tablet for 2 of my cats, they really do work, much better than any drops, but one of them is a biatch cat from hell when you try to catch her, so this time the vet gave me Bravecto, it's drops that last 3 months, not cheap and only available on prescription, but my vet are doing buy 3 get 4th one free, Works wonders.

    I use advantage on the other 3 cats who don't have skin/fur problems, works just fine, but I do use Acclaim spray all over the house regularly.
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    • HampshireH
    • By HampshireH 13th Jan 18, 10:55 AM
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    If you can get all pets out of the house for the day you could flea bomb the house.

    These are very effective and cheaper than multiple cans of spray.

    I routinely go into empty properties where former tenants have left fleas behind. I get eaten alive (often 50-60) bites head to toe.

    This obviously means I run a huge risk of taking the odd one home. Prior to getting our dog we bombed the house with flea stuff. Haven't yet needed to since getting the dog as no evidence of any in the house.

    Just 1 and I'm on it. It's the 1 thing I cannot cope with.
    • melbury
    • By melbury 14th Jan 18, 10:47 AM
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    My vet is insistent that the ONLY thing that works anymore is Advocate.
    Originally posted by Soph1988
    I read somewhere that Advantage is exactly the same as Advocate, but it just does not include the worming part.

    All I can say is that a few treatments of Advantage have certainly done the trick for our dog - no sign of any fleas for ages
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