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    • jessyred
    • By jessyred 13th Oct 17, 8:16 PM
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    WaterClaims UK fake claim or real?
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    • 13th Oct 17, 8:16 PM
    WaterClaims UK fake claim or real? 13th Oct 17 at 8:16 PM
    WaterClaims UK is asking people to fill out a form on line as we maybe illegible to get money back from paying their water bill directly to the council! did anyone else do it?? if so do you feel safe to give all your details to this people, now that i sign they ask me for a passport and a house bill, still cannot be 100% sure they are not a scam please anyone try them already let me know? I already give them my address and few other information, but cannot find anything if they are actually genuine or just there to still identity, please help!!
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    • waamo
    • By waamo 13th Oct 17, 8:46 PM
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    You generally don't pay water bills to the council, you pay a water company.

    It has all the hallmarks of a scam.
    This space for hire.
    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 13th Oct 17, 8:53 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 8:53 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 8:53 PM
    If I want to open a bank account in someone else's name, what do I need?

    Some form of ID and some form of proof of address. Perhaps a passport and a recent household utility bill.

    Nuff said, really.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 13th Oct 17, 9:06 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 9:06 PM
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    You got their details from where?you live in a council house.
    Where.?
    • jessyred
    • By jessyred 13th Oct 17, 9:14 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 9:14 PM
    web adress of the company
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    • 13th Oct 17, 9:14 PM
    they have a website, hope the link works, waterclaimsuk . com
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 13th Oct 17, 9:21 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 9:21 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 9:21 PM
    Yes can you answer my question.
    Yes there is a claims management company by that name, but how did they approach you, ie is this the same company
    • Manxman in exile
    • By Manxman in exile 13th Oct 17, 11:38 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 11:38 PM
    You can't be "illegible" to get money back. You may be "eligible". I'm not making fun - but to get the most help from these forums you need to try to make the most sense you can.


    As others have said, you don't pay the council for water charges - you pay the water supplier.
    • Manxman in exile
    • By Manxman in exile 13th Oct 17, 11:39 PM
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    Yes can you answer my question.
    Yes there is a claims management company by that name, but how did they approach you, ie is this the same company
    Originally posted by hollydays

    Thumbs up!!!
    • jessyred
    • By jessyred 13th Oct 17, 11:44 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 11:44 PM
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    • 13th Oct 17, 11:44 PM
    i have paid the council for my water for 20 years they charge the rent and water rates all included, the following is what their article say: f you are a Council Tenant or a Housing Association Tenant past or present you may be entitled to claim thousands of pounds in no-win-no-fee compensation. Some Councils are already offering partial refunds,
    it is the same company, they have a website and a phone number to call, because the amount of information they ask you i am trying to find out if they are a genuine company
    Last edited by jessyred; 13-10-2017 at 11:48 PM.
    • jessyred
    • By jessyred 13th Oct 17, 11:46 PM
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    sorry about misspelling
    Last edited by jessyred; 13-10-2017 at 11:49 PM.
    • soolin
    • By soolin 13th Oct 17, 11:52 PM
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    You generally don't pay water bills to the council, you pay a water company.

    It has all the hallmarks of a scam.
    Originally posted by waamo
    That's why there is a claim possible, some of the councils have been less than honest about costs and benefits

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/big-drip-off-four-million-11185047
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    • waamo
    • By waamo 14th Oct 17, 9:17 AM
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    There is no way I would be giving a random company all that information. It would make identity theft a real possibility.

    If you are entitled to a refund you may well be able to do it yourself like a ppi claim.
    This space for hire.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 14th Oct 17, 9:27 AM
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    Yes can you answer my question.
    Yes there is a claims management company by that name, but how did they approach you, ie is this the same company
    Originally posted by hollydays
    So I!!!8217;m guessing you are Thames water.
    A company of that name is a claims management company.
    It!!!8217;s not unheard of for people to be contacted by scammers pretending to be the same company.
    The mse answer would be to contact the water company/ housing association and do it yourself.They won!!!8217;t sell on your details and already have your info

    They are the same style of company that offered to get you holiday compensation for illnesses you haven!!!8217;t had
    Last edited by hollydays; 14-10-2017 at 9:32 AM.
    • blazealaff
    • By blazealaff 9th Feb 18, 5:12 PM
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    i am 75 years old. i first rented privately back when i was 26yrs old and newly married. at that time we had to pay our water rates to our local water authority. my daughter has spent the last 15years or so privately renting and she too had to pay her water rates seperately from her rent, (to the water authority here in Yorkshire). HOWEVER. i started renting from our local council back in 1982... when my water rates were included with my rent.in 1987 i moved to private rent again twice and on both occasions had to pay water rates seperately. nothing to do with the house agent who dealt with the rent payments. then i moved to Bedford...... council property which shortly after i moved in was taken over by the housing association which had been formed by the council... on both counts my water rates were in with my rent.as they were yet again when i moved back to yorkshire in 1997. so i am sorry to those who think we council/housing association tenants dont pay water rates to the council or offshoots (most councils offloaded their housing stock back in late 1990's/early 2000's to a housing association they formed, they liaised with the new HA for the first year after which the HA ran the new firm on their own. we still had to pay for water with the rent. and i did up to august last year when i was finally allowed to have a water meter installed so i now pay direct to yorkshire water... sorry to those who were convinced that no council paid the water rates in with the council rent......... my parents rented council houses from 1957 through my mothers death in 1977, dads 2nd marriage, in 1979 his death in 1999 and my step mothers in 2005, in most of that time they too paid their water rates in with their rent.i say most because i dont know when it was brought in i just remember both my mum and my step mum both saying part of their rent included water rates
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 9th Feb 18, 8:58 PM
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    sorry to those who were convinced that no council paid the water rates in with the council rent
    Originally posted by blazealaff
    I'm not sure why you've felt the need to drag up a 4 month old thread to have a rant when all that was said was

    You generally don't pay water bills to the council, you pay a water company.

    It has all the hallmarks of a scam.
    Originally posted by waamo
    Which is correct, apart from in Scotland where water is still included on the council tax bill. What used to happen before water privatisation in England (which happened in 1989, before the introduction of CT) is of no relevance to the question raised in the OP.
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 16th Apr 18, 1:05 PM
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    Hi

    The company has asked us to post a response on its behalf and we have agreed to give it a right of reply. MSE does not endorse anything a company says on the Forum.

    The critical question that is asked is a fair one: is WaterClaimsUK genuine or is it a scam?



    The answer is that it is genuine, but we appreciate that it is not realistic to expect people to take our word for it. Here is some further information which will enable Forum members to make their own minds up:



    Background

    The claim we are leading concerns social housing tenants who paid more for their water and sewage than they should have. This is either because:

    they paid service charges to their landlords (councils and housing associations) who then deducted unlawful commissions before paying the money on to the water company or
    they paid the water company directly even though their landlords were legally responsible for the water bills.


    There are potentially millions of people who are affected by this. At present, we are recruiting for claimants all over the country and corresponding with over 750 councils and housing associations to gather evidence of their arrangements ahead of issuing a group claim. For more about the current progress of the claim, see the newsletter page of our website.



    Identity Verification

    We understand the scepticism of people who are reluctant to provide us with photo identification and proof of address. We have a duty to verify claimantsí identities before they are referred to the groupís solicitors. This is an obligation that all solicitorsí firms have (see this thread on MoneySaving Expert for more details) and we have now implemented an electronic process for doing this which means people no longer need to give us their details.



    Who we contact

    The only people we write to are people who have responded to one of our adverts. We have not purchased any mailing or telephone lists so cannot and do not cold call anyone. We do occasionally get well-meaning people who register a claim in the name of a friend or relative but we can only take a claim on behalf of people who are named on the tenancy agreement.



    Cost

    Almost 50,000 people have registered with us and none of them have paid a single penny to do so. This is a no win no fee arrangement, so there will be no fees unless we recover compensation on their behalf.



    Is this like PPI?

    We would stress that this is not like PPI where people can get in touch with their landlord or water company about their individual claim. Banks accept their responsibility for PPI but councils and housing associations are refusing to offer any meaningful compensation. It will take a large legal claim, involving thousands of tenants and hundreds of landlords, to persuade those responsible to pay the compensation that is due. One of our key messages to potential claimants is not to accept what your landlord offers you as the law entitles you to more.



    Who is behind WaterClaimsUK?

    WaterClaimsUK is a trading style of Litigation Management Limited (LML). Those who would like to research more about us will discover that we are a small company specialising in organising and managing consumer claims. Our website is http://litigationmanagement.co.uk . LML is a regulated claims management company. Our registration (CRM42222) is recorded on http://www.gov.uk/moj/cmr



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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 16th Apr 18, 1:12 PM
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    You can't be "illegible" to get money back. You may be "eligible". I'm not making fun - but to get the most help from these forums you need to try to make the most sense you can.


    As others have said, you don't pay the council for water charges - you pay the water supplier.
    Originally posted by Manxman in exile
    I think you pay the council in Scotland for water charges as that's included in their council tax.
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