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    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 27th Sep 17, 11:38 PM
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    New Windows and Doors advice
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    • 27th Sep 17, 11:38 PM
    New Windows and Doors advice 27th Sep 17 at 11:38 PM
    Hi,

    We are on a really tight budget and looking for good windows and doors from good national companies or does anybody know any local good birmingham companies?

    Specs required are:

    - 17 windows including 2x3 section bay windows in upvc
    - 3 composite doors
    - pair of french doors

    we would like them in irish oak and only gold fret georgian bars at the front and side of the house.

    Is the plastic and glass materials expensive to manufacture or is the fitting labour charge nowadays?

    Whats the money saving way of getting these windows/doors? Will I save money if I take measurements myself and go to a local factory to get them made then get the builder to fit them?

    What do I look out for when buying new windows and doors?
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    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 28th Sep 17, 6:36 AM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 6:36 AM
    Very roughly you might be £500 fitted for a window. 700-1000 for a main door. Look for local window companies at people's houses then go and knock once they're finished to ask if they were any good. Get an established company that's been trading for years and has a local presence online
    • pollypenny
    • By pollypenny 28th Sep 17, 8:59 AM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 8:59 AM
    Certainly get a number of quotes and tell each company you're doing so.

    We replaced an enormous floor to ceiling, wide window with a small bay, replacing soffits at the same time. A good local firm price-matched. Same for our conservatory, which we had in their down season, so had the patio at the dude included.
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    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 28th Sep 17, 10:16 AM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 10:16 AM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 10:16 AM
    Very roughly you might be £500 fitted for a window. 700-1000 for a main door. Look for local window companies at people's houses then go and knock once they're finished to ask if they were any good. Get an established company that's been trading for years and has a local presence online
    Originally posted by glasgowdan
    Hi are those guide prices typically charged by branded national companies such as Safestyle/Anglian etc.?
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 28th Sep 17, 10:19 AM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 10:19 AM
    Ok for example if I was looking to do gas work I look for a gas safe trades person or if doing electrical work I look for nic eic trades person.
    For windows what do i look out for?
    • societys child
    • By societys child 28th Sep 17, 1:54 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 1:54 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 1:54 PM
    Fitters should be FENSA registered.

    Problem with buying your own is, any slight mis-measure and it's your fault when they don't fit. Even experienced fitters do sometimes get the measurements wrong!

    Friend of mine was a manufacturer of doors and windows, supplying the trade, and had an area at the back of his warehouse known as the "grave-yard" which was a big pile of mis-measured windows
    I doubt you'd save anything buying them yourself as the trades will get better terms.
    Last edited by societys child; 28-09-2017 at 1:57 PM.

    • missprice
    • By missprice 28th Sep 17, 2:04 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 2:04 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 2:04 PM
    Hi are those guide prices typically charged by branded national companies such as Safestyle/Anglian etc.?
    Originally posted by bery_451
    Last time I had safestyle or the like near my home, they wanted about 17k for 8 windows (no bay windows)
    I ended up at around 5k for a better spec from a local place been going yonks, still going in fact.
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 28th Sep 17, 2:30 PM
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    I wouldn't measure myself, buy them & get a builder to fit them. If anything goes wrong it's your fault! Get several long established local window companies to measure & quote, it doesn't cost anything. Then if anything goes wrong they sort it. With that many windows something will go wrong & need sorting.
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    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 28th Sep 17, 5:31 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 5:31 PM
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    • 28th Sep 17, 5:31 PM
    Last time I had safestyle or the like near my home, they wanted about 17k for 8 windows (no bay windows)
    I ended up at around 5k for a better spec from a local place been going yonks, still going in fact.
    Originally posted by missprice
    Wow thats a saving of around £12000 just by shopping around. Which company is this as I am interested.
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 28th Sep 17, 5:40 PM
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    I wouldn't measure myself, buy them & get a builder to fit them. If anything goes wrong it's your fault! Get several long established local window companies to measure & quote, it doesn't cost anything. Then if anything goes wrong they sort it. With that many windows something will go wrong & need sorting.
    Originally posted by EssexExile
    In order to buy them I gotta measure first yeah before handing over to the builder.
    • missprice
    • By missprice 28th Sep 17, 8:32 PM
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    Wow thats a saving of around £12000 just by shopping around. Which company is this as I am interested.
    Originally posted by bery_451
    http://www.highviewwindows.co.uk/

    Based in Leeds
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 28th Sep 17, 8:50 PM
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    In order to buy them I gotta measure first yeah before handing over to the builder.
    Originally posted by bery_451
    The point is that if you measure up & give the measurements to the manufacturers, then the builders fit them, if anything goes wrong they will all blame you. You ordered the wrong size, you ordered the wrong type, you bought faulty windows, your builder damaged them, etc.

    A window company will do everything so if anything goes wrong it's up to them to put it right. There's no one else to blame.

    We had new windows last year, some were right hung when they should be left hung, some were damaged, some needed modifying, lots of silly little things but they were all the window company's problem & they sorted them all.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 28th Sep 17, 9:04 PM
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    Birmingham? The plastics depot in Sutton Coldfield sell Irish oak windows supply only and they can give you some phone numbers of fitters they know. You can buy direct from them. Deffo worth getting a price. 01213112666 they are my suppliers.
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 29th Sep 17, 12:50 PM
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    Birmingham? The plastics depot in Sutton Coldfield sell Irish oak windows supply only and they can give you some phone numbers of fitters they know. You can buy direct from them. Deffo worth getting a price. 01213112666 they are my suppliers.
    Originally posted by docmatt
    Cheers, do you have to be a trade to buy them or they open to all including the public?

    You like to come down and give a quote if your local.
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 29th Sep 17, 1:29 PM
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    Cheers, do you have to be a trade to buy them or they open to all including the public?

    You like to come down and give a quote if your local.
    Originally posted by bery_451
    trade or public mate
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 29th Sep 17, 5:02 PM
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    trade or public mate
    Originally posted by docmatt
    Great, ok I was thinking popping down there. I assume they don't come out to take measurements correct?

    If so is there how to guide on how to measure windows to make sure to get the measurements right as I don't want to risk going down with wrong measurements for windows that wont fit
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 29th Sep 17, 5:04 PM
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    I don't think they do mate they just a trade outlet we take them the measurements and they order. Your window fitter will know the sizes. We can be up to 4 inches out on our measurements and the price stays the same.
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 29th Sep 17, 6:46 PM
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    I don't think they do mate they just a trade outlet we take them the measurements and they order. Your window fitter will know the sizes. We can be up to 4 inches out on our measurements and the price stays the same.
    Originally posted by docmatt
    Ok we dont have a window fitter however plastics depot said they can arrange a fitter after we bought the windows from them.

    Which means we have to obtain measurements ourselves first.

    Is there a how to guide or video on how to measure windows and doors properly to avoid getting windows/doors that dont fit.

    We dont want to risk spending £thousands of windows to realise at the end they won't fit but i'm sure there's a guide somewhere that everest follow to measure windows so we follow the guide for accuracy.
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 29th Sep 17, 6:51 PM
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    You provide rough sketches to quote
    They price you up
    You get a price from the fitter
    The fitter does the survey
    The fitter gives his survey to them.
    • bery_451
    • By bery_451 29th Sep 17, 7:05 PM
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    You provide rough sketches to quote
    They price you up
    You get a price from the fitter
    The fitter does the survey
    The fitter gives his survey to them.
    Originally posted by docmatt
    Ok approximately how long do they take to manufacture the windows and doors?

    The fitters they recommend are they registered with credentials like trustmark, fensa etc.?

    Our highest quote so far is from Finesse Windows at £14500 who claim to have the same quality like everest.

    In compare to this quote how cheap is the plastics depot quote is likely to be you think without fitting? 1/4 or 1/3 of this quote or even cheaper?

    Is the separate fitting charge likely to be expensive?

    Asking all these questions to work and balance out which route is better.
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