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    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Sep 17, 6:45 PM
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    Excel parking charge notice
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    • 11th Sep 17, 6:45 PM
    Excel parking charge notice 11th Sep 17 at 6:45 PM
    Hi all, im simply a new user looking for advice from experienced people.

    i've read through pages and pages and ive not come accross someone with the same issue yet so i need answers and opinions please.

    To cut a long story short ive recieved a parking charge notice from excel parking, upon reading it and becoming infuriated with the extortionate rates i was asked to pay i typed a letter explaining what had happened and why i was unable to pay for the ticket on the day(machine didnt accept new coins). In doing so i have written it in the first person saying 'I' a few times implying i was the driver therefore i believe i have now reduced my chances of getting let off. They have declined my appeal saying the hotline ahould have been called or other parking should have been sought for. Im now stuck without a paddle and wanting to know what i do next. I regret writing the appeal without first looking into it and responding with a template document as mentioned in almost every post.

    Do i simply pay the charge or do i have grounds to refuse still?

    Thanks in advance
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 11th Sep 17, 6:50 PM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 6:50 PM
    Everyone is politely asked to read the newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread.

    Go there now and read up on the game you are now caught up in.

    Any appeal to an IPC company is futile.

    So wait and see if they take legal action against you. If they do then come back for advice on defending a claim
    Last edited by Quentin; 11-09-2017 at 9:00 PM.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Sep 17, 7:16 PM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 7:16 PM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 7:16 PM
    Hi all, im simply a new user looking for advice from experienced people.

    i've read through pages and pages and ive not come accross someone with the same issue yet so i need answers and opinions please.

    To cut a long story short ive recieved a parking charge notice from excel parking, upon reading it and becoming infuriated with the extortionate rates i was asked to pay i typed a letter explaining what had happened and why i was unable to pay for the ticket on the day(machine didnt accept new coins). In doing so i have written it in the first person saying 'I' a few times implying i was the driver therefore i believe i have now reduced my chances of getting let off. They have declined my appeal saying the hotline ahould have been called or other parking should have been sought for. Im now stuck without a paddle and wanting to know what i do next. I regret writing the appeal without first looking into it and responding with a template document as mentioned in almost every post.

    Do i simply pay the charge or do i have grounds to refuse still?

    Thanks in advance
    Originally posted by Djones2410
    Well Excel are well known for their tricks and capers

    I wonder if this is a new trick to further scam motorists
    by not updating their machines. Let's face it, most 1 coins
    are the new ones.

    You need to take pictures of the signs that mention a hotline

    Were you in a retail park shopping.
    If so, doubt the retailers would be happy with a so called
    parking management company who do not allow legal tender
    to be used and then tell their customers to leave the car park

    Cannot remotely see a court allowing this rubbish from Excel

    If they cannot accept legal tender then the machines
    should state so

    Think how many people have been caught out with this wheeze

    The IPC is a simple waste of time as it is a scammers paradise
    and they will no doubt reject an appeal.

    So, you now wait to see if these scum do anything
    If so come back here for help

    PS: First step for Excel is to use stupid rubbish debt
    collectors which you will IGNORE AND IGNORE AND IGNORE.

    In your case naming the driver does not matter in a case
    where their machines do not accept legal tender and because
    of this, they punish you.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Sep 17, 7:36 PM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 7:36 PM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 7:36 PM
    its called "frustration of contract"

    sit back through the DCA letters and come back if they issue an LBC or an MCOL within 6 years (possibly from B W LEGAL or similar solicitors)
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Oct 17, 6:43 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:43 PM
    Final demand notice
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:43 PM
    Hi guys, thanks for the speedy and informative replies and sorry I was not able to get back to respond. I did as instructed and ignored the IAS appeal letter. Here we are a month later and I've received another letter today.

    This one mentions that they are disappointed that no reply/appeal was given and that they will be pursuing further action if I continue to ignore. They quote the "parking eye ltd vs beavis 2015" case as examples of successful court action and now demand full payment of 100 by the 20th of this month.

    As before, many thanks in advance. I look forward to hearing your replies.
    Last edited by Djones2410; 11-10-2017 at 6:46 PM.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 11th Oct 17, 6:46 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:46 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:46 PM
    Hi guys, thanks for the speedy and informative replies and sorry I was not able to get back to respond. I did as instructed and ignored the IAS appeal letter. Here we are a month later and I've received another letter today.

    This one mentions that they are disappointed that no reply/appeal was given and that they will be pursuing further action if I continue to ignore. They quote the "parking eye ltd vs beavis 2015" case as examples of successful court action and now demand full payment of 100 by the 20th of this month.

    As before, many thanks in advance. I look forward to hearing your replies.
    Originally posted by Djones2410
    You say 'they'. Who is this letter from?
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    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Oct 17, 6:49 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:49 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 6:49 PM
    Letter is from Excel Parking
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Oct 17, 7:04 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 7:04 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 7:04 PM
    Hi guys, thanks for the speedy and informative replies and sorry I was not able to get back to respond. I did as instructed and ignored the IAS appeal letter. Here we are a month later and I've received another letter today.

    This one mentions that they are disappointed that no reply/appeal was given and that they will be pursuing further action if I continue to ignore. They quote the "parking eye ltd vs beavis 2015" case as examples of successful court action and now demand full payment of 100 by the 20th of this month.

    As before, many thanks in advance. I look forward to hearing your replies.
    Originally posted by Djones2410
    I think we are all disappointed with Excel still scamming
    the motorist ?

    As of your ticket date both 1 coins are legal tender.
    I doubt if there is any signage to say that new 1 coins
    are not accepted.
    It's frustration of contract.

    Excel should know better about Beavis ...... daft lot

    Beavis was all about "unfair charges" not 1 coins.

    Just wait now, you will probably get more "debt collector"
    letters which you ignore.

    If Excel want to take this in front of a judge, that they don't
    take coins of the realm ..... more fool them
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Oct 17, 7:23 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 7:23 PM
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    • 11th Oct 17, 7:23 PM
    True, thanks for the reply. Ok so I'll expect more letters from Excel themselves? As you say it's nobody's fault but some signage would have been more than expected on their behalf.

    I'll post back once I get the next letter (I'd imagine this will follow shortly after the 20th of this month)

    Many thanks again!
    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Dec 17, 4:56 PM
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    Hi again, after some time of nothing ive now recieved a letter from Debt recovery plus ltd and as you can imagine they are chasing full payment. They mention that if no payment is recieved then they will suggest that the client take me to court.

    Anyone able to advise further please?

    Many thanks as always!
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Dec 17, 5:06 PM
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    see post #4 of the NEWBIES sticky thread

    and IGNORE drp, they are powerless

    they can only send scary looking letters with the apocalypse on them

    yes EXCEL could issue an MCOL, within 6 years , that was always the case (or they could ask B W LEGAL to do it on their behalf)

    you can ignore DRP/ZENITH/PCS as they are powerless debt collectors, no win , no fee

    come back if you get an LBC or an MCOL within 6 years
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Dec 17, 5:08 PM
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    DRP = a big fat so what, really?!

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5035663

    No ringing them.

    No paying them.

    No taking DRP or 'Zenith' letter chains seriously.

    Google them (and I don't mean to read DRP's own website...as one poster once did, LOL!).
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 11th Dec 17, 5:13 PM
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    Thanks people, as a first time getting these kinds of letters they do seem to be "scary" but going off your advice and some research you'd be right in what your saying.

    Many thanks!
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Dec 17, 5:21 PM
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    its either pay up , in full , or fight back

    there is no "middle ground" , but you are on that middle ground at the moment , in no mans land , with neither side giving in

    so they are sending smoke signals in your direction, with half truths and template letetrs designed to invoke panic in a recipient who isnt up to speed on the topic

    they cannot come round , or send the boys round , or do anything OTHER than send out a letter demanding money with thinly veiled menaces

    they cannot kidnap your children or pets
    they wont bang on your door
    they wont send the boys round
    the ground wont open up and swallow you

    its only a parking ticket, not operation yew tree

    the ones you see on the telly have had a court order issued against them and usually its been raised to the high court because its over 600

    so no court order, no action taken , hence the letters from DRP and all their other names

    EXCEL passed it to DRP on a no win , no fee basis , hence the extra 60 added on as fees

    we have no idea what you think DRP are going to do , or can do, seeing as all they can actually do is send a letter like the one you received and keep doing it for 6 years , until the statute runs out for civil court

    IGNORE and get on with christmas

    and IGNORE all the follow ups, unless its from an actual solicitor like B W LEGAL, or if it is from EXCEL themselves, or if its an MCOL (court papers) from Northampton CCBC
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Dec 17, 5:58 PM
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    Redx hits it on the head above.

    My only addition is ......

    DRP ARE TIMEWASTERS
    DRP ARE POWERLESS
    DRP ARE TOTALLY USELESS

    NEVER CONTACT DRP
    or any other pond life debt collectors
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 21st Jun 18, 4:26 PM
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    Well after a quiet spell ive recieved a letter today from money claims online county court Now demanding the full sum of 185. What are the suggested next steps here.

    Many thanks as always
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 21st Jun 18, 4:49 PM
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    Well after a quiet spell ive recieved a letter today from money claims online county court Now demanding the full sum of 185. What are the suggested next steps here.

    Many thanks as always
    Originally posted by Djones2410
    More detail required.

    Have you received a Claim Form or a Default Judgment?

    Either way, neither of those demand money.
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    • Djones2410
    • By Djones2410 21st Jun 18, 5:29 PM
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    Its a claim form.

    When i say demand i meant Excel have now taken the next step and taking action.

    The letter gives 14 days to respond with the options of admitting/declining the claim and if declining to provide a defending statement etc.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 21st Jun 18, 6:10 PM
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    Yes, you have fourteen days from service of the Claim Form to respond.

    The date of Service of the Claim Form is five days after the Date of Issue on the Claim Form.

    Your response should be to Acknowledge Service of the Claim which will buy you an extra fourteen days to prepare your Defence.

    Everything you need to know about how to proceed, including how to do the Acknowledgement of Service, is fully described in post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

    What is the Date of Issue on your Claim Form?
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 21st Jun 18, 6:13 PM
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    Put nothing in the Defence box at this stage - you will develop your defence in the additional time provided by you Acknowledging Service right now.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
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