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    • AJ16
    • By AJ16 8th Sep 17, 3:09 PM
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    chasing PPCs for harassment
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:09 PM
    chasing PPCs for harassment 8th Sep 17 at 3:09 PM
    Are there any threads on this and how to go about it? We have had two successful appeals against PCNs but both involved loads of time and stress. Anyone successfully done this??
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 8th Sep 17, 3:16 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:16 PM
    Are there any threads on this and how to go about it? We have had two successful appeals against PCNs but both involved loads of time and stress. Anyone successfully done this??
    Originally posted by AJ16
    Harassment is a difficult one but if you won both times, you
    could have fun with DPA claims against them.

    In other words, they had no good reason to obtain your data

    250 - 750

    LIKE HERE
    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/cp-plus-lose-data-protection-claim.html
    Last edited by beamerguy; 08-09-2017 at 3:22 PM.
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 8th Sep 17, 4:18 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 4:18 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 4:18 PM
    Most people are only too pleased to get these parasites of their backs. but if you really want to give them a bloody nose read this one for trespass

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**

    This one for DPA breach

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/motorist-awarded-900-for-data.html

    Then there is Ms Jopson who took Homeguard to the cleaners at appeal after a silly judge found against her.

    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/213077149-Loading-and-Unloading-Jopson-v-Homeguard-2016-

    Parking companies are becoming increasingly exposed as irate motorists fight back against their scams, but stay clear of harassment, the bar is set very high.
    Last edited by The Deep; 08-09-2017 at 4:20 PM.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 8th Sep 17, 5:02 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 5:02 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 5:02 PM
    Were both PCNs for exactly the same situation and were they residential or other private land?
    Depending on the circumstances there are ideas people will give you but to do so would require much more information about what you have experienced.
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 8th Sep 17, 5:41 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 5:41 PM
    Are there any threads on this ?
    Originally posted by AJ16
    Yes, a great many. The last active one was just a few days ago,
    • Johnersh
    • By Johnersh 8th Sep 17, 6:47 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 6:47 PM
    May I also suggest you read Ferguson v British Gas if you wish to walk that path. It is informative as to the standard that needs to met...
    http://swarb.co.uk/ferguson-v-british-gas-trading-ltd-ca-10-feb-2009/
    • AJ16
    • By AJ16 9th Sep 17, 10:45 AM
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    • 9th Sep 17, 10:45 AM
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    • 9th Sep 17, 10:45 AM
    Were both PCNs for exactly the same situation and were they residential or other private land?
    Depending on the circumstances there are ideas people will give you but to do so would require much more information about what you have experienced.
    Originally posted by safarmuk
    Both PCNs were for ECP operated car parks, one in the centre of Manchester and one at Sainsbury's Brixton.
    • AJ16
    • By AJ16 9th Sep 17, 10:46 AM
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    • 9th Sep 17, 10:46 AM
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    • 9th Sep 17, 10:46 AM
    Yes, a great many. The last active one was just a few days ago,
    Originally posted by pogofish
    Do you have any links?
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 9th Sep 17, 11:56 AM
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    In the case of a major retailer, such as Sainsburys, when given the chance you should go for them as well, as they are jointly liable for the actions of their agents.

    The only time not to go for the landowner as well, is if they are a small independent entity, such as a one man sop/pub, or a community centre/hall , in which case they can be victims of the PPC as well
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • AJ16
    • By AJ16 9th Sep 17, 3:05 PM
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    In the case of a major retailer, such as Sainsburys, when given the chance you should go for them as well, as they are jointly liable for the actions of their agents.

    The only time not to go for the landowner as well, is if they are a small independent entity, such as a one man sop/pub, or a community centre/hall , in which case they can be victims of the PPC as well
    Originally posted by Half_way
    It's the PPC who caused the harassment not the landowners.
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 9th Sep 17, 4:07 PM
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    It's the PPC who caused the harassment not the landowners.
    Originally posted by AJ16
    What Half_way means is that even though the PPC caused the harassment, the landowner engaged the PPC and also liable for the PPC's actions because the PPC is the landowner's agent.
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?

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    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 12th Sep 17, 5:36 PM
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    Given your PCNs are in different locations I think it would be tricky to prove harassment ... if on the other hand you had multiple tickets for the same site and you had already shown that they were invalid by successfully appealing or winning some in court and they continued to ticket you for the same reason I suspect you would have a much stronger case ...
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