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    • Kentlife
    • By Kentlife 14th Jun 19, 7:23 AM
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    Kentlife
    Morning Land Registry

    Any update on title Title K896779?

    Thanks

    Kentlife
  • Land Registry
    I would like to swap some land along the boundary of my property with my neighbour on the other side. We would exchange an equal area of land, about 4.5 square metres. As far as I can see we would both need to complete a form TP1 but I am wondering if there might be any ramifications that I am not considering. My property would acquire some road frontage as a result of the swap, something that it does not have at present.
    Originally posted by Reed_Richards
    See our Practice Guide section 3 on exchanges

    Ramifications to be considered woukd not be something we could advise you on and is really one for others to comment on
    Only things we might mention here woukd be if your properties are mortgaged then you'll need to tell your lenders, probably get their consents and have to use conveyancers.
    And if you acquire road frontage and are going to do anything with that then may be worth contacting the Highways Agency?
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  • Land Registry
    Morning Land Registry

    Any update on title Title K896779?

    Thanks

    Kentlife
    Originally posted by Kentlife
    What did your solicitor confirm when you 'chased' them?
    I'll check in with the processing office and come back when I have some info
    Last edited by Land Registry; 14-06-2019 at 8:40 AM.
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    • I_Smell_Like_Beef
    • By I_Smell_Like_Beef 14th Jun 19, 7:45 AM
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    I_Smell_Like_Beef
    Adverse Possession Application
    Hi Land Registry,

    You've been kind enough to help us previously regarding CU313062. You informed us last week that the first registration had now been completed last Thursday. However, as far as we're aware, the seller's solicitor has not received this and we have also noticed online that the title plan has not changed.

    Is it usual that the results of the first registration are sent by post (the assumption being that if they were sent by email, the seller's solicitor would have already received them)? And if so, what would the estimated delivery time be?

    Furthermore, is it usual for the online title plan to not be updated immediately?

    Thanks once again for your ongoing help. It's much appreciated.
  • Land Registry
    Hi Land Registry,

    You've been kind enough to help us previously regarding CU313062. You informed us last week that the first registration had now been completed last Thursday. However, as far as we're aware, the seller's solicitor has not received this and we have also noticed online that the title plan has not changed.

    Is it usual that the results of the first registration are sent by post (the assumption being that if they were sent by email, the seller's solicitor would have already received them)? And if so, what would the estimated delivery time be?

    Furthermore, is it usual for the online title plan to not be updated immediately?

    Thanks once again for your ongoing help. It's much appreciated.
    Originally posted by I_Smell_Like_Beef
    The FR under that title was completed on the 6th. So the lodging solicitors should have received the details by now through the post.

    I don't quite understand your reference to updating the title plan as this was a first registration so not an update.
    It was an adverse possession claim so the claimed land gets its own title, namely the one you have quoted. If there's an adjoining property registered under its own title then that does not get changed/updated - I'm guessing that's what you are referring to?

    So the property now consists of two titles. One absolute re the main property. And this one which is possessory as it's been claimed.

    The solicitors will have been sent a copy of the new register and title plan for the new claimed possessory title. As such it might be quicker for them to check and confirm the details online

    Hope I have understood the issue correctly
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    • Kentlife
    • By Kentlife 14th Jun 19, 9:02 AM
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    Kentlife
    Hi Land Registry
    Main issue is that there are two solicitors involved; my own and the solicitor of the other flat for which the floorplan will be swapped. My solicitor has responded to all queries and it is the other solicitor providing input to land registry. I'm told this was done on Monday .

    Gary
    • I_Smell_Like_Beef
    • By I_Smell_Like_Beef 14th Jun 19, 9:09 AM
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    I_Smell_Like_Beef
    Adverse Possession Application
    Thanks, that's answered our questions perfectly!
  • Land Registry
    Hi Land Registry
    Main issue is that there are two solicitors involved; my own and the solicitor of the other flat for which the floorplan will be swapped. My solicitor has responded to all queries and it is the other solicitor providing input to land registry. I'm told this was done on Monday .

    Gary
    Originally posted by Kentlife
    Many thanks - that makes sense and tallies with what I can access this end - it's not a routine application either this end, which means it needs extra scrutiny by us

    My expectations are that we should know more Monday/Tuesday but I'll check again later today and IF that's changed I'll post again.
    I appreciate its urgency but it's had a rocky road to travel this far but hopefully it's now all in order and can be finished
    “Official Company Representative
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    • Kentlife
    • By Kentlife 14th Jun 19, 5:53 PM
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    Kentlife
    Many thanks for your continued help Land Registry. Youve been brilliant.

    Kentlife
    • Belle1576
    • By Belle1576 15th Jun 19, 10:10 AM
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    Belle1576
    Hi land Registry just a quick question we are selling our property and our buyer wants us to get the right of way removed ,we were lead to believe that once we had consent of the lender and our neighbour and had all the paperwork drawn up that the easement and change of ownership would be done at the same time. They are now asking for us to do the easement before exchange as he would not own the property. Is this true or can it all be applied for at same time the solicitors are at loggerheads about it.

    Thanks
    • vjm63
    • By vjm63 16th Jun 19, 10:33 AM
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    vjm63
    Voluntary first registration - can it be done without solicitors/conveyancers?
    Hi Land Registry,



    I am wanting to do a voluntary first registration for a piece of land, but the guidance I can find online all seems to be aimed at it being done by a conveyancer. There are no deeds that we can find at all - but we have been looking after the land for 13 years or more with no-one disputing that at all.


    On the FR1 I would use panel 16 not 15 - but even 16.1 asks for details of the conveyancer - so I am confused! I would also need to send in the LD1 I assume - which needs a conveyancer to certify I am who I am.



    Would it be honestly simpler to get a solicitor to do this rather than me - do non-conveyancers succeed in this process?


    Thanks.
    • da_rule
    • By da_rule 16th Jun 19, 2:36 PM
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    da_rule
    Hi Land Registry,



    I am wanting to do a voluntary first registration for a piece of land, but the guidance I can find online all seems to be aimed at it being done by a conveyancer. There are no deeds that we can find at all - but we have been looking after the land for 13 years or more with no-one disputing that at all.


    On the FR1 I would use panel 16 not 15 - but even 16.1 asks for details of the conveyancer - so I am confused! I would also need to send in the LD1 I assume - which needs a conveyancer to certify I am who I am.



    Would it be honestly simpler to get a solicitor to do this rather than me - do non-conveyancers succeed in this process?


    Thanks.
    Originally posted by vjm63
    If you have no deeds evidencing ownership then it’s highly unlikely a first registration application would be appropriate/successful. Instead, you should look at the practice guides for adverse possession of unregistered land.
  • Land Registry
    Hi land Registry just a quick question we are selling our property and our buyer wants us to get the right of way removed ,we were lead to believe that once we had consent of the lender and our neighbour and had all the paperwork drawn up that the easement and change of ownership would be done at the same time. They are now asking for us to do the easement before exchange as he would not own the property. Is this true or can it all be applied for at same time the solicitors are at loggerheads about it.

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Belle1576
    Either can work as from a registration point of view it's just a question of applying in the right order on a single application. So providing the relelease of the right comes before the Transfer you can do it as one. As such I suspect there are other reasons for not doing so as one application for example new lender's process requires it or solicitor feels there is a risk that if there's an issue about the release then you are reliant on the seller to sort it for you
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  • Land Registry
    Hi Land Registry,

    I am wanting to do a voluntary first registration for a piece of land, but the guidance I can find online all seems to be aimed at it being done by a conveyancer. There are no deeds that we can find at all - but we have been looking after the land for 13 years or more with no-one disputing that at all.

    On the FR1 I would use panel 16 not 15 - but even 16.1 asks for details of the conveyancer - so I am confused! I would also need to send in the LD1 I assume - which needs a conveyancer to certify I am who I am.

    Would it be honestly simpler to get a solicitor to do this rather than me - do non-conveyancers succeed in this process?

    Thanks.
    Originally posted by vjm63
    If you are claiming the land then as da_rule posts it's Practice Guides 4 or 5 you need to follow for guidance

    All the PGs are written primarily for conveyancers as invariably registration is only part of the legal process. Claiming land for example relies on a very complex area of law so we would always recommend you seek legal advice/assistance. You need to make sure you satisfy the legal requirements first as if you can't then there's no point applying to register your claim.
    Last edited by Land Registry; 17-06-2019 at 1:15 PM.
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    • vjm63
    • By vjm63 17th Jun 19, 7:48 AM
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    vjm63
    Thanks Land Registry for the swift response.



    I did apply for adverse possession on the ADV1 form with evidence and it was sent back saying I should have used FR1 and DL for unregistered land - hence me starting down that path.



    Hence the current situation. Looks like it needs to go to a suitable solicitor then.
    • Belle1576
    • By Belle1576 17th Jun 19, 9:04 AM
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    Belle1576
    Deeds of release
    Thank you.
    How long does it take to do.
    Can I get updates on here about it
    • Sarahloulouise
    • By Sarahloulouise 17th Jun 19, 10:07 AM
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    Sarahloulouise
    Buying a property that has Land issues.
    Hi Land Registry,

    I am buying a property and I have looked at the title plan. It shows that the house has a long think garden that has access to a smaller road (no issue with access as it's a council road), at the back.

    The estate agent has told me that the seller had a verbal agreement with the next door neighbour where they had swapped parts of the land. Basically the next door neighbour has claimed the end of the garden and parks his car there. This does not show any changes on the land registry plans. (However the land has a right of passage by foot across it).

    However the land that was 'given' to the seller of the house has been registered with the land registry. And has title deeds listed under the property name (I don't know if these would be included in the sale and to be honest it's not good land as I would prefer the parking space, which is on the actual land registry plans.

    My question is can the seller change the land registry plans to sell this whislt it's sold subject to contract? Of this does through with no one claiming it as a problem, can I just claim the land back as there's no wall or fence to knock down.

    Thank you and sorry for the long post.
    Sarah
    • Issy101
    • By Issy101 17th Jun 19, 11:44 AM
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    Issy101
    Hi Land Registry,

    We are in the process of buying a flat, however the title plan is currently incorrect and does not reflect the flat boundaries like the lease plan does. This has been sent you, however please could you let us know how long it will take to be amended? Thanks
  • Land Registry
    Deeds of release
    Thank you.
    How long does it take to do.
    Can I get updates on here about it
    Originally posted by Belle1576
    If it's an application to update both titles then the average is 9 working days between receipt and consideration. Everything then hinges on it being in order.
    The solicitor can track their application and advise you on timings
    “Official Company Representative
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  • Land Registry
    Hi Land Registry,

    We are in the process of buying a flat, however the title plan is currently incorrect and does not reflect the flat boundaries like the lease plan does. This has been sent you, however please could you let us know how long it will take to be amended? Thanks
    Originally posted by Issy101
    The average timescale is 9 working days between receipt and consideration. What happens next depends on it being in order
    “Official Company Representative
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