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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 19th Jul 17, 2:04 PM
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    KonMari 2017 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 19th Jul 17, 2:04 PM
    KonMari 2017 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 19th Jul 17 at 2:04 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent



    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.
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    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 27th Nov 17, 8:16 PM
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    Mother reported via phone that she's finished the Bryson book I passed on to her last weekend and really enjoyed it and it'll be heading chazzer-wards.
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    Bryson is one of the few authors i actually keep.... I find them oddly comforting - can read snippets at a time and re-read them over and over..

    DD's mattress went today - it was one we had bought her for her uni flat and is only a year old, but we had no-where to store it; it was leaning against the wall in our bedroom... it was 'only' £80, and it went via Facebook marketplace. I could probably have got £20 or so for it, but we really wanted it out..
    You're out with a friend in the capital, I'm a thousand leagues under the sea
    You're hovering worriedly over your eggs, And I'm pondering trees
    I'm wandering long, And I'm pondering trees
    For you and me
    Guy Garvey
    • Debsnewbudget
    • By Debsnewbudget 27th Nov 17, 11:34 PM
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    Kittie, I use gmail - really simple to set up and use
    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 28th Nov 17, 6:54 AM
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    3 black bags full gone to the local church for it's rag bag collection that is as well as 4 ikeyaa bags last week for the good as new sale. Hope they make some money as they have to raise £320,000 to stop the leaks.
    I bought 6 paperbacks to read and these will be passed on to son number 1 or dil2 if son has read them.
    Wild up here the last few days snow sleet windy rainy and just the weather to read a book. Got my winter fuel payment today and dreaming of another holiday in August to London like last year. Just to add the payment was for £200 not to pay for the holiday
    Have booked tickets to see Val Mcdermot and Anne Cleeves at Granite Noir in Aberdeen in February as they were sold out this year and I missed it. Looking for ward to that.
    This Mk has made me so organised you wouldn't believe - has anyone else found that? and also so much extra time as I am not searching for stuff all the time. Even Christmas seems to be organised but I have a feeling I have forgotten something important.
    • kittie
    • By kittie 28th Nov 17, 7:47 AM
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    I did it set up a different e mail provider. I looked down my address book and many people, including 3 siblings, use gmail, so I used that one and I have set up firefox thunderbird to accept that as well as my normal e mail, So from today, I will start to change my e mail address on non-important sites, like retailers, so I get used to gmail and in time will KM email from plusnet, which eventually leaves me free to choose a different internet supplier. We only have plusnet and bt here and bt now owns plusnet and I pay a higher charge because of where I live, so I am trapped in plusnet for now

    Wishy washy sleep last night, hip pain from sleeping on my right hand side, helped later by using a pillow between knees. I watched an ambulance programme last night and it was based on `elderly` people, even those around 72 on that programme were in difficulty of all sorts. Omg, it was awful scary, however a couple of very oldies were self sufficient in their own homes, so it can be done.

    There is no way on earth I am backing away from km as it is helping me so much to come to terms with widowhood, living as a single and facing old age, all at the same time. Mk is kind of like my rock and I know there are no second chances at my age.

    It will all become less muddied when I find a property and know what I am aiming for, when I can set up a dedicated workshop, possibly in a new insulated log cabin and I am going to make an area in the garage, which is a must have, for my re-bounder and one more item of exercise equipment, probably a rower. Cycling is fantastic outside but far too muddy and cold now. I did take my rebounder down but will set it back up in my wooden building, I am going to have space soon and am concerned about losing the ability to cycle up hills without getting too puffed, it keeps my circulation healthy

    Today I am tweaking, a few kitchen storage boxes, paint tins in the wood building, I am going to put any house paint on their own shelf, together with specialist bulbs. Then I am going to try and km items from paint and their tool storage area. Difficult. Another pass also beckons, on allotment and gardening stuff. Its tricky I feel like I am p***ing in the wind but have to make best guesses because I know from past experience that once I can put my house up for sale, then things move very fast and I am going to request a price that will sell the house

    ok it is getting light, I have things to do
    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 28th Nov 17, 8:21 AM
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    Kittie, your energy leaves me amazed. It's definitely good to KM as much as possible before moving, but do you think you're giving yourself enough 'fun' time at the moment? I hope you're still finding time to do some of your hobbies. It can all move very rapidly, it's true, but things can also drag in a house move and it's horrible to find you've packed everything and then you're twiddling your thumbs waiting for reports and surveys.

    It's exciting thinking about a new house though, when are you going to start looking?
    "Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    • Fen1
    • By Fen1 28th Nov 17, 8:59 AM
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    Kittie: what is the 1 o'clock liver time? Is it to do with chi and Chinese medicine?
    • kittie
    • By kittie 28th Nov 17, 11:00 AM
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    Ah Polly, don`t worry, I have quite a lot of fun time, going on my bike is fun as is reading and crafting. Its too cold to do my wood carving at the mo but I`ll pick that up again in spring, when the allotment also comes to life. Tbh this time of year is normally very quiet and I am quite glad of the change from outside allotment must-do work. This KM stuff, well it all makes me very happy, it is very satisfying. I don`t even need a radio in there, in fact I like silence and it is meditative in that all I think about is the item I am moving, this is like mindfulness

    Yes fen and circadian rhythm, ancient yin/yang medicine and now modern research too. The most important organ in the body, disrupted easily by too much alcohol. Lots on the net about the importance of keeping to a very regular sleep/wake cycle. Hence me working so hard on getting back into a regular sleep cycle after dh died. Major stresses set the body up for disease to manifest about 12 months afterwards. Mostly I do now have that constancy

    Rebounder is set up with inches to spare and some KM, not such a lot today, just general tidying at that end. Maybe I will get out for a cycle ride soon, it is lovely and sunny
    • Fen1
    • By Fen1 28th Nov 17, 12:00 PM
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    Thanks, Kittie. I've started looking it up. I've already found information on circadian rhythm and mitochondrial function. Interesting stuff.

    I need some serious KM help!!!!! OH is job hunting. I don't know where he will end up going, but we probably won't continue to live in this house. How do I get rid of stuff now, so that I can get ahead of the move? I've moved house umpteen times before, but the place we currently live in is the largest property, and we've filled it. Running down freezers and cupboards, not renewing and replacing anything, clearing out obvious clutter..... Yep, I know all of this and am actively doing so.

    But. But. But.

    I feel utterly overwhelmed.

    I don't feel anything like Kittie's positivity; she is moving on to the next phase of her life ( and doing so very sensibly .) I feel as though I'm just lurching from one drudgery to the next.
    • Floss
    • By Floss 28th Nov 17, 12:28 PM
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    Fen download the book & read / listen to it, and be guided by her suggested route through each category. It is easier to start with simple things as she suggests, then to move on to more challenging things as you become more practised and enabled
    • kittie
    • By kittie 28th Nov 17, 1:15 PM
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    Fen, live in the moment. I know I appear to have everything ahead of me but I haven`t, in fact all I have is uncertainty and the only certainty is from the allotment seasonality and again that is circadian, a cycle, round and round. When I was younger, I always had this strange feeling, as though I was striving ahead for something, I didn`t know what and it did not make for happy contentedness. One day I started living in the moment and that is when things changed and I became content. This is what enabled me to cope with what life threw at me, three close deaths in two years and sudden singledom after never being alone for the whole of my life

    I think first you need to get excited about the move about following wherever this turn on the road takes you, the new friends you will meet, the fact that you will not be stuck in a rut. Re sorting your home prior to moving, take one room at a time and maybe start with a small room, or the airing cupboard. Only leave stuff there that you would happily pack into boxes to move with you, if you are not sure, then put that item in a special bag or trolley or box and leave it out of sight for a few days and by then you will know. It is baby steps fen, how a goat gets up a mountain
    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 28th Nov 17, 2:18 PM
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    Or how you eat an elephant - a teaspoon at a time!!
    Helping DH in the garden today - he's making new compost bins from some pallets so I've been clearing out all the plastic bags we use for wood ash and wood chippings that are passed on to people who keep chickens or animals. All stored nicely in my mum's old galvanised dustbin!!
    Scrubbed my sprayhood for my boat and pegged it on the line and gave it a good rinse with the hose. Its nearly dry so brought indoors and draped over the bannister to dry off completely before I roll it up ready for next season.
    Lots of 'little' jobs being done at the moment - don't you seem to find that the actual doing of them is always a lot quicker than the keep thinking about them IYKWIM?
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • maddiemay
    • By maddiemay 28th Nov 17, 3:17 PM
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    I have had to kondo some more money today, my electric over blanket has packed up and it is so amazing for my aches and pains and when I get cold after my nocturnal wanderings (an aging bladder and IBS), I just had to replace it, money has also had to be earmarked to pay for mending my computer when I get the call to say it is ready, if there has to be a 3rd thing, please let it be an inexpensive one to fix/replace
    • Charis
    • By Charis 29th Nov 17, 6:33 PM
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    Did anyone else watch last night's Grand Designs with the 'minimalist' houses? One quite massive place had various 'hidden' rooms and there was no clutter in sight. Anywhere. The walls were a series of panels which opened out into other rooms or cupboards. The cupboard which concealed the TV would have warmed MK's heart. Two shelves of joy sparking family photos on show in tre recess above the TV. Didn't see the knicker drawers though LOL.
    • kittie
    • By kittie 29th Nov 17, 6:49 PM
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    tomorrow I am getting rid of a karcher steam cleaner and all the accessories, haven`t used it in two years and don`t want it cluttering my utility any more. I am also getting rid of a nespresso machine and zillions of pods, I only drank them because I had them in and I actually dislike all of them, they are putting me right off coffee and I don`t want that to happen because I love a particular organic coffee that I grind myself from beans

    Nothing much else today, I am liking the revamped labelled storage boxes. Shorter ones in a shallower cupboard, three rows wide and several boxes high. Same width and length in the fridge and bigger ones in a normal sized cupboard. I decided yesterday that there was no point in keeping stored foodstuffs that I no longer use, eg goji berries. Lol, I wait until my neighbours are out before quickly loading the car, I think they are wondering why I am removing so much stuff.
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 29th Nov 17, 8:05 PM
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    Charis, thank you, I must find that online!

    We completed on a house purchase today. The house was chosen because of the concepts of minimalism, MK and keeping only what really matters to you (i.e. It's small, but v centrally located!). When we move in, we will have to practise what I preach! I am both excited and absolutely terrified...
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 29th Nov 17, 8:12 PM
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    Exciting times catshark.
    • kboss2010
    • By kboss2010 29th Nov 17, 10:28 PM
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    Did anyone else watch last night's Grand Designs with the 'minimalist' houses? One quite massive place had various 'hidden' rooms and there was no clutter in sight. Anywhere. The walls were a series of panels which opened out into other rooms or cupboards. The cupboard which concealed the TV would have warmed MK's heart. Two shelves of joy sparking family photos on show in tre recess above the TV. Didn't see the knicker drawers though LOL.
    Originally posted by Charis
    Yes, that place was a modern art museum, not a home! I'm all for minimalism but imagine being a kid in a house like that - you'd be afraid to do anything besides watch tv! I much preferred the Iranian-inspired house with its beautiful pond & traditional Persian rugs to die for!

    I've enjoyed kondoing so far and still have lots to go but I feel a home needs to feel cosy & lived in otherwise you're just living in a show house. Then again, having grown up in mostly new-build houses, I've developed a soft spot for period homes with a bit of character, history & wonky bits.

    Looking back, my favourite house we ever had as a kid was a 1930's terraced house with a bright yellow kitchen & a Victorian tiled black & white bathroom which I never understood why I appreciated so much at the time. It was the room proportions & history I felt the building had, I think, surrounded by very old trees & a well-established garden.
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    • kittie
    • By kittie 30th Nov 17, 8:33 AM
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    oooh catshark, I am delighted for you
    • greent
    • By greent 30th Nov 17, 10:22 AM
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    Great news, catshark

    Today I plan on taking 2 large bags of Summer-y clothes to the local cash for clothes place, as it is close to Sains, where I shall be shopping, so I can combine the journeys I have removed warm items and things for layering up and shall put them in the homeless collection another day, along with some hotel and airline toiletries. That's 2 large bags out from my under-the-stairs cupboard, making it easier to tidy up (it seems to have got very messy under there just recently!)
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 30th Nov 17, 11:05 AM
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    I've kondoed the large task of wrapping all the St. Nicolas gifts; 4 bags-for-life full I now have a sore neck

    Still to do: making poems (similar to limericks) about the people receiving the gifts or the content of the gift and making 'surprises' (pronounced the French way) of the gifts (for instance, by adding lot of extra tape, by sending the receiver on a gift hunt through the house, by wrapping the gift several times and putting a different name on each layer, by putting a tiny gift in a huge box, by adding something sticky or smelly to the wrapping (shrimp shells or treacle, or both ), - if you want to have an image, g00gle 'ideeën voor surprises sinterklaas'). I'll limit it to 1 each
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