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    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 18th Jul 17, 8:29 PM
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    Knit Witch
    The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat!
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    • 18th Jul 17, 8:29 PM
    The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat! 18th Jul 17 at 8:29 PM
    As threads are going walkabout I thought I would start the next stage of this off - I will try and do the links later!
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    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 5th Oct 17, 2:53 PM
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    Welcome, babs it's lovely to have you with us. I really feel for you as my DH too has loads of things he's collected and can't bear to get rid of! I long for a tidy home, but instead I have one full of "stuff".

    fuddle So sorry you're feeling worse I hope the new ABs kick in sharpish! Thinking of you xx
    • nannywindow
    • By nannywindow 5th Oct 17, 3:03 PM
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    Hello all
    A special hello to Babs too. This is such a lovely thread with kind and caring people and sometimes a bit bonkers too .
    I am another one who starts a job then gets side tracked easily, Mr Fix It calls it my " butterfly mode ".
    It has been one of those things that I have learned to live with. Oh and Mr Fix It is also a hoarder who fills any available drawer to bursting with bits of wire and every space with bits of tech, working or not, because " it will come in handy one day ! "
    Anyway I have also joined the daily thread and it helps me focus one day / job at a time. They are also a very friendly and supportive bunch. Hope this helps.
    Sorry to have not posted for a while but have been struggling both mentally and physically. However I feel that I am now coming out of the dark tunnel and able to get on with things,
    Fuddle I am sorry that you are poorly and hope for a swift recovery.
    Last edited by nannywindow; 05-10-2017 at 3:05 PM. Reason: grammar
    • CRANKY40
    • By CRANKY40 5th Oct 17, 4:13 PM
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    Babs add the week's milk to the online shop. I've done this for years, we buy 3x 6pt cartons of milk every week and it never goes off. We drink a lot of tea
    You can freeze milk, but when it thaws out you have to keep shaking it. I used to freeze it until I found out it lasted the week in the fridge anyway.
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Hello Babs and welcome. If you don't use much milk, I have discovered that filtered milk such as Cravendale (which has a use by date of usually 3-4 weeks in advance anyway) is good to use for at least 2 weeks after opening. Possibly you could change your order to every 2 weeks if you changed your milk. Filtered can be slightly more expensive but definitely costs less than having to do a whole 40 shop.
    • babs 103
    • By babs 103 5th Oct 17, 4:44 PM
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    Well thank you all so much for your suggestions. It's a lot to think about but now I've no excuse to try some things to see if they work.

    pollyanna26 The lists idea sounds like a good plan, I suppose it's just a case of picking one or two things to write down? or the thing that is bugging me the most? (see what I mean about being unable to stick to anything!) I will try it tomorrow - wish me luck x
    I live between 2 high streets that are quite frankly rubbish for food shopping, just pound shops, cafes and charity shops. these are fine for when I need to offload things I don't need anymore but not at the moment.
    I've had a Council assement and they said I could have 4 hours respite but that was earlier this year and am still waiting for that, as they have had to cut down on social services they provide.
    I am not retired, I'm 60 but I am DH registered carer.

    greenbee, I make my own bread so that is no problem but the milk situation is harder I will consider getting the Milk and More man a few times a week , it will be dearer but as I'm not getting a grocery delivery anymore it will be one less thing to worry about. Thank You.

    carolbee I LOVE the timer idea, it sounds just the thing to keep me going but also to know that I can stop after a certain time, brilliant. Thank You

    mardatha I get 4 x 4pts of milk which usually last from Tuesday til Sunday, I did have a theory that a larger bottle of milk doesn't last as long as ordinary pints because I just swig it in but this may be just my imagination.

    nannywindow I've had a look at the daily thread and will probably join tomorrow. Thank You

    cranky40 Will try Cravendale tomorrow so I have some emergency milk, not having a cup of tea every 10 minutes is akin to not breathing to me. Thank You
    • Floss
    • By Floss 5th Oct 17, 5:47 PM
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    Babs my DH has Cravendale semi-skilled milk on his muesli - 1 4-pint bottle lasts him 7/8 breakfasts. I always buy it because he isn't always at home every night due to his job and it stays fresh for him.
    • Hard Up Hester
    • By Hard Up Hester 5th Oct 17, 6:07 PM
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    Hard Up Hester
    Welcome Babe, hugs to Fuddle and nannywindows.
    I've been reading along but not posting much, it's two weeks today until I retire, I will have worked full time for best part of forty years by then. I'm currently trying to do my old job full time and my new job part time.
    I've also started a new blanket to keep me busy in the evening, I have limited internet access and only 2 tv channels but I did manage to watch Ruby Wax on Who Do You Think You Are last night. It was very sad.
    Chin up, Titus out.
    • nannywindow
    • By nannywindow 5th Oct 17, 7:14 PM
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    Hester only two more weeks . I hope you have a happy and long retirement.
    I thought I would be a " lady of leisure " but I haven't got the time. What with Mr Fix It's cancer treatments and hospital visits, doctors appointments, an elderly parent and grandchildren I find that some days I need at least 35hrs. Having said that I probably wouldn't know what to do with any spare time now .
    Babs I look forward to "see" you over on the daily. I'll probably post late as usual as I am not an early riser, but better late than never !
    Cranky and Floss thanks for the mention of Cravendale, I will have to try that too. We usually go through 4x4 pints in a week, more if it's porridge weather, so maybe good as a back up .
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 5th Oct 17, 8:38 PM
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    Well I have seen a dentist at last after 8 and a half years. I don't need any fillings!!! I will have the remnants of my two broken teeth out next month.

    I still struggled to find the dental hospital again despite the map. I was supposed to go down a street which crossed over a road. I was supposed to walk to this crossroads turn right and there would be the dental hospital. Where the crossroads was supposed to be was a dirty great university library that looks as if it has been there for years.

    The rest of the hospitals over the road is half missing on the map I was given. I think they need a new Map.

    Do you all remember I said there were 5 or 6 hospitals all on one site. I jokingly said there were about 50, well it turns out it's 56. Most of them are specialist hospitals rather than lots of different departments. There are another 10 scattered around Manchester that are all part of the teaching hospital.

    I did write this morning before I went out. I then realised I had better get a move on. I forgot to post it.

    Welcome Babs

    One of the best ways to save money on groceries is to buy as many own brands as you can. That is the big advantage of Ald! and Lid! is all their own brands. I rarely buy any brands at all now.
    Most of them are just as good or not enough different that it is worth paying more for brands.

    I wish I could send our market to you once a week. I think a few other would like it.

    Oh dear fuddle I am sorry you are ill again. Have you had your pneumonia jab yet? Now I hope this works. A great big hug for everyone especially those who are ill or troubled. :kisses3 :

    It's a good job I took and extra 60 with me this morning. I bought a winter coat, a pink skinny rib jumper. the ribs made of different sized rib patterns, a big warm cardigan to go over the skinny rib when it is really cold. Then I saw some cotton cardigans only 6 with dragonflies on it and some suede real leather gloves. All for a total of only 66. Well I have not had hardly any clothes for the last two years because DS burst out of all his clothes last year just like the incredible hulk.

    Look after yourselves everyone.
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 5th Oct 17, 9:31 PM
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    I had the jab last week NM but unfortunately I have pneumonia again. I'm under the GP this time and he believes that I could be breathing in stomach acid (I have boughts of acid reflux when I'm stressed) and that's causing aspiration pneumonia. We're going to start the ball rolling with tests and the like when I'm better.
    Please don't judge my story by the chapter that you walked in on.
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 5th Oct 17, 9:41 PM
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    That sounds promising. There is a simple remedy for that. You don't want acid reflux at all it can damage your esophagus, (the pipe your food goes down.) If that gets badly damaged you cannot eat or drink.

    I hope he sorts it for you. I hope you all feel suitably hugged and kissed.
    Last edited by nursemaggie; 05-10-2017 at 10:37 PM. Reason: one sentence made no sense.
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 5th Oct 17, 10:23 PM
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    fuddle darling, how dare you be ill, worrying us all to bits. Isn't that just typical! You wait months and months for your pneumonia jab and when you get at long last, what happens? S*ds Law!

    So sorry Babs. I wrote you a long post this morning sorting out your life for you. Goodness knows what happened to it. The ether must be crammed full of my disappearing posts.
    Anyway, most of the things I had advised have since been covered by others.
    The kitchen timer trick is one I have used for years. It keeps me focused and that is a minor miracle as I am easily distracted.
    I also use Cravendale as I don't use much milk and it does last for weeks.
    I live on my own, lovely, lovely, lovely, but have given up my car and live in a village with one bus an hour so I know how difficult shopping can be. What I do is one big shop a month for all the items I like to keep in stock. Things like butter, cheese, tea, coffee, flour, tins of meat, fish, beans etc, cleaning stuff, toilet rolls You know the sort of thing. Then, once a week all I have to shop for locally is fresh fruit and veg. Even veg I try to get frozen, they last longer and have more vitamins than fresh veg that has been lingering on a supermarket shelf.
    Perhaps you could have one big order online a month and only have to shop for odd bits.

    As for DH and his clutter...GROAN!
    If I were you I would be inclined to leave it in boxes. If he wants something you could get it out of the box for him and put it back afterwards. With a bit of luck he will forget what he has got and you can sneak stuff out of the flat and into the CS. You can't have scruples in this case.

    Stick with us petal. We'll get you sorted.

    I have a book where I write down quotations or little bits of writing that I particularly like. It seems a shame that they should stay hidden so I intend to add one every day that I post on here. Some of them may have originated from here in the first place so if any of them seem familiar, they probably are.

    Today's pleasant thought.

    You would never eat a coconut if you believed the shell.
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
    • burtha
    • By burtha 6th Oct 17, 5:36 AM
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    Morning all,
    Sorry playing catch up , life busy
    Nothing changed 3mw called in twice in the last week ..and he's away at the weekend ... seams to be the norm now ...
    So hope I've not missed to much fun here .... apple jelly ? Sounds like you had fun .... Fuddle hope your feeling better , and hello to babs, welcome , my only advice would be do things in short bursts ... There is no rush , ... as for food shopping I can't think , I went to a large supermarket last night , walked around aimlessly , still struggling with what to make , weird going from feeding up to 8 to 3 , only one eating meat ... Getting there slowly
    Night out tomorrow night ... or a few hours ... should be a day of tomorrow but facepainting at a friends christening... think I may end up doing some games as well , she doesn't sound very organised lol . So the idea of a night out will keep me motivated .
    Still today to get through first , waiting for daylight to walk the dogs

    Ttfn xx
    • maryb
    • By maryb 6th Oct 17, 11:48 AM
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    Re our discussions about the price of butter, I was in Sainsbugs today and they were flogging off Anchor unsalted butter for 88p. I bought a few because I use it in baking but I checked when I got home and it's still showing in Mysupermarket and on the Sainsbugs website as 1.79 so I don't know if it was a manager's special
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • babs 103
    • By babs 103 6th Oct 17, 1:56 PM
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    Hi all,

    I've had a long think and I've come up with this cunning plan, so I'd like your opinion if you don't mind.

    I have done a little list (literally) it has 3 things on it, when I finish one think I'll tick it off and add something else to it. If I completely finish all three things on it I'm worried I wont add anymore and will end up not doing anything.

    I will also use the timer on my phone until I can get a kitchen timer, and set it for 15 minutes at a time to clear stuff and do housework.

    I will do a monthly Mr T delivery for the heavy/bulky things so it will just leave me to get fresh every week or maybe every two days, I haven't figured that out yet. With this I will have to do a meal plan which I have done before but cannot stick to it - I may just do a months worth of meals then cook what we fancy each day, I don't know if that will work but will give it a try.. Cravendale is already on the shopping list.

    I have a question regarding the fresh stuff, do you think I should have a purse with cash in for that? maybe it will stop me buying things I don't need.

    Still not sure where to go shopping tho, a taxi is much too dear but the bus is a fiver, still cheaper than buying stuff online I don't need I suppose. So I'll have to see if it's Chatham or Gillingham that gets my pennies.

    Well that's all for now except to say a mahosive thank you to everyone who has replied and helped me. Any comments welcome xx
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 6th Oct 17, 3:02 PM
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    Hi babs

    I don't write a meal plan but I do have about 20 different meals I make regularly and we occasionally have others when either the ingredients are cheaper or on offer.

    Today I should have gone to market, but this morning When I got up both my hips were agony and I could barely walk. By barely walk I mean it took me several minutes to walk out of my bedroom into the kitchen rather than the about 8 steps I normally take.

    Consequently we have no chicken left and I had intended to cook sweet and sour chicken today. DS decided what we could have based on what he bought yesterday.

    I think you just have to use up things in the order of how well they keep. e.g. I like to use up broccoli in the first 3 days as it does not keep so long and carrots will usually keep for two weeks.

    If you have a low income some councils allow certain categories to have a free bus pass like the ones for retired. As soon as you turn 60 go and get your bus pass. I am sure I save 100s of pounds every year. Especially since I found out I can go anywhere within Greater Manchester on trains too with my card.

    I agree on keeping your food money in a separate purse it makes you think what you are buying and stops you buying things you probably will never use.

    Another thing it is often cheaper to buy meat at a butchers and fruit and veg at a greengrocers.

    Learn lots of things you can do with eggs because they can be very cheap meals.
    • babs 103
    • By babs 103 6th Oct 17, 3:07 PM
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    Hi nursemaggie

    I have to wait until I'm 66 before I can get my bus pass, it is a big bugbear with me. DH has one that is plus carer but as he cannot get out very often it is a waste and he could never go shopping, it would knock him out for days!

    Thanks for the other tips tho and hope you feel better soon
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 6th Oct 17, 8:24 PM
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    Babs it sounds like you have the makings of a cunning plan. Putting cash in a purse or envelope is a good idea, when it's gone it's gone until you top it up next week.

    When you do your online shop include things like minced beef, sausages, chicken, fish portions, stewing beef etc. All this could go in the freezer and you do a meal plan for say, 4 or 5 days at a time (some can do a whole month of meal plans, but start with a few days and go from there). You pull what you need for a meal from the freezer the night before. When cooking a meal, make enough for one or two more portions than you need. These extras can be boxed up and put in the fridge for a day or two, or in the freezer. Either way, it's instant ready meal that just needs heating up.

    Another idea is to look in your fridge at the start of the day and see what needs using up before it goes off. Leftover veg can go in soups or pasta dishes, leftover fruit can be eaten with yoghourt or custard or ice cream. Look at the Love Food Hate Waste thread for further ideas.
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    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 6th Oct 17, 8:52 PM
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    babs bus passes are at sixty for both sexes. You do not have to be retired. There must be people who are in good jobs who are going to work on bus passes. Not everyone works 9-5.
    • manchestermargo
    • By manchestermargo 6th Oct 17, 8:57 PM
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    I live in Manchester. Bus pass only issued when you are eligible for state pension. I got mine aged 62 years 4 months.
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 6th Oct 17, 9:04 PM
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    Have they changed the law again because they changed it to 60 for everyone because it discriminated against men. It is National not local. Councils are supposed to administer but most give the right to do that to the bus companies to save two authorities having to do the same work.
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