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    • DundeeDoll
    • By DundeeDoll 18th Jul 17, 11:34 AM
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    5 OS pleasures in your day today - part 3
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    • 18th Jul 17, 11:34 AM
    5 OS pleasures in your day today - part 3 18th Jul 17 at 11:34 AM
    Ok I'm diving in as I've noticed several of us have lost posts we thought had posted, and there now seems to be a serious risk of losing the whole thread. So thanks for the heads up Karcher. (and i sympathise Frith - i too like to nip back)

    I've revisited the first thread of our part 2, posted 28th October 2009. It said:
    Time for a shiny new thread The old one had got to 4500 odd posts which amounts to 22,500 OS pleasures (at least) It's so good to know that the OS life can be so rewarding.

    I'll kick off the new thread.

    1) Homemade bread and marmalade for breakfast.

    2) A walk over the Malvern Hills to blow away the cobwebs.

    3) Drying the washing outside- still, in October.

    4) Watching mydaughter making a game out of sweeping the leaves with her friends.

    5) The prospect of collecting a big order of meat from the butcher this morning and having my freezer full for less.
    Originally posted by thriftlady
    Part 2 went on considerably longer so many many more pleasures. And of course life stories shared, support given, tears of sorrow and joy shed. Part 2 I shall miss you, but here's to part 3.
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    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 10th May 18, 12:55 PM
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    Ooooh VJ I am minded of the spotty doctor student who throw an equation of proportions onto the bored when I did my degree, and then went round the class to see if any of his so called subjects could work out what equation it was.

    He got to me, and I said. It looks like Rocket Science to me' the class erupted, he went red and. We did not have him again!

    I think he ended up in HR!
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    • DundeeDoll
    • By DundeeDoll 10th May 18, 9:27 PM
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    I'm assuming it wasn't the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation then bop
    A day that could have been disastrous turned out surprisingly well...
    1) cluster meeting in edinburgh. mrpiano offered to take me to Leuchars station as he was teaching in st andrews
    2) disaster - train cancelled. however had masters dissertation on lap top so decided to buy a coffee and go to the waiting rooom
    3) disaster - only £1.04 in purse. Was sure i had more but further search only revealed another 10p - still not enough for a coffee or even a tea
    4) disgruntled went to buy ticket, wondering if they did cash back. pair in front of me were discussing whether to still go to edinburgh or call it a day. the 3rd in their party was joining them at Cupar so they decided they were going to drive. guess what i did next...
    5) very nice being driven to murrayfield. friend slightly puzzled to see me in back of car. i said shhh i snuck in, they don't know
    6) took taxi to workshop, did some excellent networking, walked back with new acquaintance to station, used spare ticket, met mrpiano at leuchars and home by 7 to very apologetic dd2. she had borrowed £20 from my purse to go out, got the money to pay me back but didn't realise i'd be leaving early. well if she had i wouldn't have had my little adventure
    Be like a postage stamp—stick to one thing until you get there.
    • Frith
    • By Frith 10th May 18, 10:57 PM
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    Pleasures for today (Thursday).

    1) Not a bad sleep.

    2) Off to town to hand in bigger son's college place acceptance form, get him some shorts from TKMaxx and a celeriac from Sainsburys.

    3) Got 8 bags of soil improver from the tip.

    4) Hens well. Sorted the allotment (muck and soil improver) and planted 15 pumpkin and courgette plants and 9 sweetcorn. That'll make a bit of space on my windowsills!

    5) Smaller son brought his cooking home from school - a marvellous lemon meringue pie.

    6) My brother popped round (for a bit of pie!)

    7) Watched Ambulance. (Which upset me as a great chunk was the exact place where smaller son was whizzed from an ambulance into Resus).

    8) In bed with 1hwb now.
    • villagelife
    • By villagelife 11th May 18, 7:36 AM
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    1. Survived the morning at work. I computer system working for over 3 hours. It was interesting!

    2. Afternoon was much better but had to catch up with everything I couldn't do in the morning but still managed to leave more or less on time.

    3. Reading my book in the garden with a coffee.

    4. While waiting for a bus being impressed with how helpful and cheerful the bus driver was.

    5. Chatted with DS1on the phone.
    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 11th May 18, 8:20 AM
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    It's another glorious morning but cooler, so & has just come in for cardigan while early outside for sits, birdy listens, reads, look abouts.
    1. Another Spits done - up at 2 bells, back at 1 bell. ipso facto, old lady longhaul heavy lugging days continue. Felt it when loading up again last night, finished 2240h. Heavy rain much of way down and there made unloading horror. Trade decent d.g., as & must rebuild savings/replacement Meriva expenses. Spirits really lift when a 3-£ig sale comes - and early. Likeable ephemera man hunts'n'gathers around 6, and was indeed v. interested in &'s recent cache of old airline luggage labels and stickers and flyers from just post-war>late 50s. That sale set the tone. So relieved. Bonus joy - spoke in French with 4 families of buyers. It helps so much and really is a mutual pleasure.

    2. Opening immaculate cleaned fridge, having forgotten task done.

    3. Spits friends'/fellows' 'Welcome Back' greetings and apparent concern. & never expects any things like this and is always taken by surprise.

    4. Thinking something through.

    5. Enjoying the latest Rumpoles:
    and, of course, the continuing delices of.High Table, Lower Orders
    This time next week, & has landed. & is saying Bonjour>little hire car. & is back in her beloved Var.
    On rtn, President's Rugby Match - a fun game, then em for this is v.tempting:
    Yes, think they will mesh nicely. Liked Tom hugely when met last year, & having taken decades to finally get to Lullingstone.
    Glad you are loving Barcelona, mhags - don't forget Casa Batlo. Long ago, & and R were left suspended for over an hour over the Med. on the cable car thingy, down past Christopher Columbus statue on the beach, No idea if it's still there.
    Some great ballon ovale finals coming up tonight and tmrw. The Alma might have to be visited;-)
    YouBeaut vendredis à tout et à tous with matching w/e's.
    No thanks button - again - so apologies for none given.
    Oh, yes, dd. Custard tarts are &'s pref., too. rtc emporium accidentals are best. & draws distinction btwen h-m and shop-bought. Equal but different, both splendid....and any of younger son's lemon meringue leftovers would be v.welcome, too, thankyou Frith.
    Back outside now-)))
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    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 11th May 18, 9:31 AM
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    Morning all

    An 'at home' day (and weekend) - much welcomed. It's nice gadding about 'but it's oh so much nicer to be home'.

    Pleasures for yesterday

    1. weighed myself for the first time in 10 days. another 2lb off and my waist line has reappeared
    2. early train to london. some good walks to station here and then from euston and back
    3. Popped into Planet Organic on the way to uni and bought two tins of jackfruit (a fruit that can act as a meat substitute) will work out something to do with them next week. possibly fajitas. And bought my tea
    4 colloquium was... meh. Mostly boring for me as the subjects were such that i couldn't relate. Lots of quantitative research, figures and formulae. My presentation went well though and i got good feedback with a couple of things to think about so it did it's job.
    5. DD and I went to a local Am Dram performance of Avenue Q - I am trying to get her involved. Both to use her skills and from a socialisation point of view. One of her high school friends was in it which has encouraged her. He walked onto the stage and we virtually yelled "It's LUKE" What has encouraged her more, however, was the quality of the performance - head and shoulders above the one we saw in our home town a few weeks ago. this one is about 8 miles away. They are doing My Fair lady next and she is planning to audition

    Have a good day all
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 11th May 18, 12:09 PM
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    Blackbeard of Perranporth
    Yes, no you can’t
    DD Every equation is derived from a simple second order equation!

    V Millwright’s has been out and about again, and us with our hands dirty in the boiler house are excluded because no one likes the hands! He’s has only got some cloth coming out way and we need a new grains store as well! Pockets, deep ones, are lined!

    4 Thinking &! I has something later that will put her hairy men in the quire at the local kirk! See later, but please no showing to your mother, she’ll not like them! Has bin meaning to do it for ages!

    3 In the packed lunch box of BoP today we has remembered the Bourneville. Two helpings as you cannot miss out on yesterdays offering. Tum is rubbed. Mushroom egg custard tart, salad, new tatties, cheese and a club. Two cakes of jaffa has also been packed!

    2 Nite Glawster are playing the taffs of Cardiff, next to the river taff! Wobbleade shall be consumed!

    But you can if you try!
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    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 11th May 18, 12:28 PM
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    Well bop - thanks button now showing, went to mark the box with heavy-laden X, only for mse verbiage to declare 'Sorry. There are no thanks for this post yet.. You cannot thank this poster.'
    No idea what that's about.
    Right, shall now go back out and continue in chilly breeze but fine day.
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    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 11th May 18, 12:40 PM
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    Blackbeard of Perranporth
    Well bop - thanks button now showing, went to mark the box with heavy-laden X, only for mse verbiage to declare 'Sorry. There are no thanks for this post yet.. You cannot thank this poster.'
    No idea what that's about.
    Right, shall now go back out and continue in chilly breeze but fine day.
    Originally posted by ampersand
    Give technology a boot dear!

    I has some real music for you later, I am at the mill and although I sweat inn the boiler house, this is hot! Besides, it would get the millwright's secretary all flustered! Your Hairy Men. Boys!
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    • Skint yet Again
    • By Skint yet Again 11th May 18, 7:21 PM
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    Skint yet Again
    A couple of recent pleasures

    1. lots of birds in the garden
    2. the grass has been cut in the park, puppy loves rolling in it. Thankfully she hasn't rolled in anything smelly yet !
    3. ...also makes it easier to find the ball when she runs off with it
    4. glad its Friday
    5. takeaway for tea not MSE but CBA to cook
    Balance 0% credit card to pay £1360 £1310 £1210 £1160 £1110 £1060 £998 £948 £898 £848

    Emergency fund 140/500
    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 11th May 18, 7:38 PM
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    Don’t let your mother see this!

    & This makes your Hairy Men look like quire boys!

    Also it is not what you think either!
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    • Frith
    • By Frith 11th May 18, 9:37 PM
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    That video is used in high school to teach the guitar, BoP! Know it well.
    • Flo61
    • By Flo61 11th May 18, 11:16 PM
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    Builders have finished work.

    Son visited. He is going to Verona for weekend but doesn!!!8217;t know yet.

    We are looking after guinea pigs. Lots of chirruping noises from kitchen.

    Chat with best friend. We are 56 but don!!!8217;t think we!!!8217;ve changed much in 40 years.

    Chosen hall wallpaper and daughter approves. Shock.
    • Mrs Salad Dodger
    • By Mrs Salad Dodger 12th May 18, 12:48 AM
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    Mrs Salad Dodger
    OS PLEASURES for last few days,

    1. Decisions are being reached re our return to London

    2. More items sold - we are nearly at 1,000

    3. Gloriously sunny day today & very warm

    4. Invited round to dinner with the new owners - drinks & nibbles outside & managed conversations in our stuttering French - then indoors for dinner. Their brother-in-law & sister-in-law were there so seven of us for dinner. Mario (the Bil) cooked a paella (taught to cook by his mother) - it was divine despite the fact that DSis & I are not lovers of paella we are now converts to home made paella (as well as seafood it had chunks of rabbit & chicken) My DH was in fine form & had the new female owner in stitches with his stories all in French
    A four hour interlude with good food, riotous laughter & convivial companions. Plus a bonus - buying more bits & pieces so should reach the 1,000 mark

    5. Watching the last episode of Touch & it had a happy ending

    Goodnightone & all

    • Frith
    • By Frith 12th May 18, 1:27 AM
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    Sitting in bed listening to the raspy breathing of a ridiculously drunk bigger son - after driving around for half an hour as he wasn't where he said he would be. :-/

    Pleasures for today (Friday).

    1) Not a bad sleep.

    2) Hens well and we covered the pumpkins and courgettes (planted yesterday).

    3) Took out more bricks from the base of the old porch and also the old step. Dropped them at the tip.

    4) Bigger son made baked avocadoes with eggs in the hollow for lunch.

    5) My brother came up to chainsaw some branches down so the septic tank emptying man can get to the septic tank next week. It's not on my land and incredibly overgrown.

    6) Smaller son had quite a nice day at school. He's been talking to his specialist teacher as both their football teams will be in the same league next season.

    7) Whilst driving round the countryside looking for bigger son, saw 2 deer - either roe or fallow.

    8) In bed now and shall listen to the Now Show or News Quiz (whichever it is this week) in a minute.
    • house elf
    • By house elf 12th May 18, 6:17 AM
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    house elf
    Good Morning,


    1. This week has been a short working week, but difficult. Glad it is over. Nice reading everyone’s 5 OS Pleasures to help me concentrate on the good.

    2. I find Fridays very frustrating. I take my gardening group to a lovely local garden where we have a veg plot. I should enjoy it, but I keep thinking about all the work back at school! I took all their folders with me to work on, but only finished one, as the group need so much supervision. Bought them all ice creams on the way back as they actually worked as a team this week!

    3. Conversation with young man who is very Autistic, and did not talk to us when he first joined 6th form.........

    J: What do you think of all the weight I’ve lost?
    Me: You are wasting away J!
    J: No. What do you think of all the weight I have lost?
    Me: Wow, J you are looking really thin!
    J: Thank you.

    Will I never learn! No idioms!

    3. Ed’s Diner for tea. 50% off food and DH had money on his app. DD’s friend joined us. Jolly time and yummy food. No cooking!

    5. Escape to the Chateau DIY and bed.

    Have a good cheesy Eurovision day
    Synchro Mums - 'Changing the world one sequin at a time' Lady GaGa
    'We have more in common than that which divides us.' Jo Cox
    • villagelife
    • By villagelife 12th May 18, 7:34 AM
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    Relaxing day but achieved loads.

    1. Sorted out some craft stuff and took some of it to a charity shop. It should have created space but hasn't.

    2. Caught the train into the local town to collect my second pair of glasses. Had a long conversation with the guard about staff travel. Made me pleased that DH joined British rail straight from school and worked for them long enough that he kept them when he was made redundant.

    3. Enjoyed looking at the shops but didn't buy anything and paid money into the bank.

    4. More weeding done in the garden. More planting can be done soon.

    5. Enjoyed a glass of wine in the garden admiring the view listening to the birds.
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 12th May 18, 9:16 AM
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    Morning all! Reading your pleasures & awed at your your industry.

    Soldier Sahibs - riveting book & Ye gods the young chaps were a handful. I'm all for space exploration if it means future live wires can move on & make a living for themselves, although we need a diplomatic cadre too. (Special grin for the Pathan observation that the first Englishman comes alone, the next pair make a map, and then they come with an army, so it makes sense to kill the first one...)

    If any son complains of having no trousers, he is on for one Very Old Fashioned Look. As, high on endorphins, I helped sort every garment from two rooms. I am several pairs of My Socks the better, the handkerchief pile will be a good 6" taller once washed & there are enough trousers to open a branch of Go Outdoors. The son with a penchant for heavy metal shirts has been reunited with no less than five such & is still hefting trugs of clothing unspecified in further hope.

    My mystery berry cuttings are thriving along with gooseberries & tayberries but the rest? Not so clearly. The bay cuttings look to be gradually dying but I can't tell how the still attached just pegged down pair are. The borage has come on from seed so well it's been potted on into the garden & I now have hopes for Wimbledon.

    Listening to Badminton horse trials - some of the cross country fences look utterly hairraising. Lovely to see the ears forward as the horses pack the miles in. (My chaps have scattered - they're not interested.)

    Wombat playing I spy hung to D - and crowed when we didn't get daffodils. That they were dandelions - "I was wrong." Well, just a bit. I would paper his bedroom with Keble Martin, but I think without interest it's wasted effort. An I Spy of edible plants now, that would get and hold his attention!

    Sitting in the shade in the evening with a brew & a book, listening to the chirps & flutterings in the hedge beside me. As son wanders past me, tired & grubby but having earned real money & glowing under the grime. The pride does not wash off...

    Trying to identify a finch - Victorian approach (kill it first, identify it later) crossed off but grinned at the QI turtle too delicious to survive the journey home.... Definitely a design flaw.

    Sudden doubt as to health - declined a choice of two bars of chocolate on the grounds that "youngest will enjoy them so much more than I will".

    Startled by a Blade Runner origami unicorn perched on a pile of books. Seems youngest intersperses revision with paper folding, but uses large pieces of paper.

    Seedlings herded out of windowsill safety & out under a blue sky. Parsleys, sage, thymes, dill & borage. I'm told the crawling things don't attack the big pots. I'll watch with interest!

    Cries of delight "oooh sunshine!" from family & colleagues & yes, all this light is lovely. I am biting back "oh gods the heat" - I am built for draughts, rain & layers of wool, not frolicking around in a well cut handkerchief... (An Autumn baby, I learned to love wool young.)

    It would appear son with earnings is beginning to appreciate the value of money! Hurrah - the lads have not previously twigged that "the sweat of my brow" is a thing rather than a saying....

    Son had very bad exam so stew & dumplings served (regardless of the weather!) as comfort food.

    Unexpected combination - Offical white stick & beautifully drawn on eyebrows. All I can presume is the lady has a *splendidly* trained support team.

    Some days I am clearly not safe out alone. The guy who minds my car reminded me to do my fleece up as although it's Thursday, it's chilly. Is this what having a brother is like?

    If it now rains for 40 days & 40 nights, blame me. I took Martin's advice, shopped for sunscreen in pound shops & have equipped my chaps. All I forgot was a stout umbrella....

    Frank Gardener (BBC Security Correspondent) on the British government, Iraq & "a right Horlicks". It's not a subject to laugh about but who else could use Horlicks thus, other than the British?!

    Aw. Scouts, shelters & string! Much fun had & my lot were canny enough to drag pallets in to avoid sleeping on the ground.. (Proud assistant leader!)

    Can you have inner city Cow Parsley? It looks familiar but a bit short. (This from me, ahem.)

    The first brew of the day, in the quiet coolth before general awakenings, with a breeze whispering birds chirping and the cup cradled in two hands.

    The thudding indicates I must go & do the mummy thing & wake sweetly sleeping children. Seems wrong but there you go. Happy weekend!
    • LaineyT
    • By LaineyT 12th May 18, 9:37 AM
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    Some recent pleasures,

    Way back on 25/12/17 I opened a mysterious envelope from grinning hollow legged ones and inside were tickets for Windor Horse Show, what splendid and intuitive chaps they are. Capt S then also excelled himself in obtaining tickets for the preceding day and booked a hotel so after dropping small dog with very kind pal on Thursday morning we set off.

    Pony club mounted games, totally fearless youngsters with speedy, turn on a spot ponies, doing crazy things with flags and balloons.

    The Household Cavalry’s Musical ride, such gleaming perfection and I defy anyone not to be moved by the patriotic finale.

    Dressage, Charlotte and Carl were competing, need I say more and equine girlie should be afraid, very afraid.

    Show classes, we thoroughly enjoyed the amateur cob especially the lady riding judge who quickly and efficiently put 20 horses through their paces. Her Majesty’s Fell won the class and she was there to see it, saw a very tiny Prince Phillip driving his car through the show and, best of all for me, Nick Skelton was munching on his seafood at the table next to ours

    Not forgetting one of my favourite pastimes people watching, serious money obviously abounded, many labels and bling on show but real money is quiet not brash, just elegant and stylish.
    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 12th May 18, 10:20 AM
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    Have just cranked up bop's music box. It worked on and off. Did & detect antipodean accent or so?
    Nowhere near spookymen's chorale class, bop. Re: re-boot. Done, over and over. It's just the ever-worsening muckness of here. Remember, it affects mains radio , landline and mob., too - everything. Just spent 40 mins fetching back water, then hot water. Garden reboot also resumed.
    1. Trailer on, trailed to town of horse saddler for new tarp. talk. Had sent pics, left old cover, talked wirth Josh over a week agp, but no noise since. All sortakinda re-sorted yday, so new green cover[hgv quality] some millennium soon, c.£100. Lots of livery/riding out small ads inside, Lainey:-)

    2. Dozen of us in town of horse Bank yday, waiting for lovely S. We talk ruggers, away times, savings, and he is a cracking all-round goodfella. Hard-worked for banking done, felt good. Tfr'd some for interest. £s re-build against replacement Meriva happening nicely, dg.

    3. Tutoring at 17h, strictly kept to planned time[nearly]. £20 for 3 children/&'s +>50km petrol[up 2p per litre yday]/prep. and books bought/given....yes, it's ridiculously little, but all 3 children are so keen, their parents also. Already over a year since papa spoke to & in Waitrose and asked if it might be possible. Who knows why? He'd heard & speak - that was all. SATs begin Monday for middle child. All 3 worked on comprehension, grammar, spelling, reading, maths[in which they are all gifted.] Lifted the lid on dictionary skills last night, speed, ease of use, branching knowledge - excitement! Language opens! We make progress. & is strict. Family is v.appreciative.
    So & continues.

    4. Back at &squat heard very exciting last bits of glawster blues: Gareth Anscombe is a kiwi, of course:-)
    Amazing match! Now, Racing 92 or Leinster today. Will be in Alma to find out.

    5. Bkd 3days at Medway YH for proximity Lullingstone as post-passim, straight after rtn from France - Looking forward to this.
    Right, need to unload Spits-laden car, prep. for little Tues pm auction, check on mthly one and qtrly one for next month. Euros to sort. Wallet found with useful spend leftovers from France and Denmark.
    Big rain forecast by tonight. Will & bring today's 6a.m. laundry in before heading>The Alma?
    Great weekends to all, including Elder, Wiser Son of Frith. Hope his new College course is everything he needs and can be fired up by. Good news re: girls, inc. Barbara. Pruned silver birch overhangs early, so postie can get by. Laid the bits down in hope of stopping constant unburied cat poo.
    This new format /look mse just doesn't work here. Very hard to type anything, see it. Want old turquoise back. Still can't get any response from mse towers as to why & is shut out of mob. access. That DID work until recently.
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