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    • Fiona Durham
    • By Fiona Durham 10th Jul 17, 3:07 PM
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    Another TV Licence thread... re: Wimbledon on YouTube
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:07 PM
    Another TV Licence thread... re: Wimbledon on YouTube 10th Jul 17 at 3:07 PM
    Please could someone help me figure out if I can watch Wimbledon legally on YouTube without a TV licence?

    I don't have a TV licence and do not watch any live TV, BBC anything anywhere etc etc...

    I am a Wimbledon fan and have noticed for the first time this year that there's a Wimbledon channel on YouTube with a live stream.
    If this is a TV channel also (or BBC) then, as far as I understand it, I wouldn't be able to watch it without a licence. The TV Licencing website contains the following information:

    "Do I need a TV Licence to watch live TV programmes on an online-only TV channel? Yes. Online-only TV channels still count as live TV, so you need a TV Licence if you!!!8217;re watching or recording their programmes."

    So does that mean no, I can't watch it because it's an online channel? But is it an online channel? What if Pixiwoos do a live tutorial on YouTube, can I watch that? I am well confused
    Last edited by Fiona Durham; 10-07-2017 at 3:31 PM. Reason: typo
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    • brewerdave
    • By brewerdave 10th Jul 17, 4:37 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:37 PM
    Wouldn't think the stream will stay up for long - Beeb will want it taken down pronto!!
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 10th Jul 17, 5:10 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 5:10 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 5:10 PM
    This is the official stream of Wimbledon, who own the rights, and the BBC will have no say in the matter.

    Well, this one is:

    The issue of the TV Licence for such services is complicated (certainly more complicated than the TVL website comment suggests).

    The rule is this: IF the stream is a copy of a linear broadcast channel available in the UK via Terrestrial, Satellite or Cable TV (whether you have to pay for it or not), then you need a TV Licence.

    IF it's not a parallel stream to a UK broadcast channel, then you do not need a Licence.

    That's my view... IANAL... etc.
    Last edited by Cornucopia; 10-07-2017 at 5:13 PM.
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