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    • looking_forward
    • By looking_forward 3rd Jul 17, 12:27 PM
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    Hot Tub location
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    • 3rd Jul 17, 12:27 PM
    Hot Tub location 3rd Jul 17 at 12:27 PM
    I am not sure if I have the correct location for this - if not apologies .


    I have an issue regarding noise form a neighbours' hot tub


    Last year one of our neighbours had a hot tub installed ,the location was by the fence at the end of their garden (some distance from their house) - however the way our houses are positioned means that this tub is much closer to our house - directly behind the fence next to our patio, garden dining table and approximately 10ft from the back French doors of our house ( lounge/tv room ) . The location of this tub has really become apparent over the last few months , on several occasions we have been sitting down eating on the patio when the jets on the tub fire up , you can't continue talking at the dining table as the noise is so loud , not to mention how loudly the neighbours in the tub have to be to talk over the noise of the tub and all this is accompanied by a smell like chlorine . It can also be heard over the television when doors are open and still heard when doors shut - this has gone on for up to 35 minutes , We have lived here for 18 years and I cannot believe an issue like this has arisen - has anyone had a similar situation and what are the guidelines regarding location of tubs. In the winter we obviously never encountered issues but now summer is here I can see this is going to get worse ,


    any input greatly appreciated


    thanks in advance
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    • JP1978
    • By JP1978 8th Jul 17, 9:09 PM
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    As hard as it is to have that chat, the longer you leave it, the harder it will be to have - "Well its been like that for 6 months, why have you not said anything so far?"
    • Moses2
    • By Moses2 8th Jan 18, 6:12 PM
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    I have the same problem except my neighbours have installed a large jacuzzi on the other side of the border fence 3 foot from our lounge and under the bedroom windows. They insist on sitting in it from 8pm til late and the noise can be heard in our house with windows closed. The council have told them they must restrict the use after 1100pm. Hotels close hot tubs at 800pm. There should be a law about location regarding these “portable” machines before one is installed next to you! They are completely anti social for your neighbours. We have tried to discuss this with our neighbours but they are not interested. Any new advice would be appreciated.
    • capital0ne
    • By capital0ne 8th Jan 18, 6:58 PM
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    Turn a garden sprinkler on just by the fence, am oscillating type that keeps on spraying just a few annoying droplets over the fence - claim your cultivating some prize flowers and they need regular watering
    • somm
    • By somm 8th Jan 18, 7:11 PM
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    Hey
    I think am late, but I want to share my advice. Just talk to them! most of our problems are not big deal as we think. a talk could solve it.
    • joeypesci
    • By joeypesci 8th Jan 18, 7:43 PM
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    Hot Tubs are cool, very relaxing and we spend a lot of time in the summer outside in ours.
    We do how ever ensure we turn the bubbles off after 10pm.
    They are not that expensive to run either in our experience.


    *I suggest you either talk to them, make them aware of the noise it makes.
    *ignore it and just put up with the odd 1/2 hour of noise.
    *grow some high bushes/hedge to block their sun / or block the noise for your self.



    We think we are good neighbours, although the tub does make noise, we also put up with the neighbours dogs barking, and grandkids screaming when they come round.
    So a little give and take is best, but have a chat.
    Originally posted by dares_uk


    I hope you are using it in the winter too. They are the BEST in the winter. The best part is setting it to 40. Standing by the tub for a minute in the freezing cold then getting in. The feeling is amazing, like a cold bed dance

    Obviously at 40c you shouldn't stay in long.
    • Naf
    • By Naf 8th Jan 18, 8:15 PM
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    Hot tubs seem to be a bit of a fad, but they're not cheap to maintain properly and I bet the novelty of sitting in a communal bath in your back garden in full view of the neighbours will wear off quickly enough.

    I have a feeling that this won't be an issue next summer.
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel

    We've been enjoying ours for 3 or maybe even 4 years now. We still really enjoy going for a dip of an evening. Its a little pricey to run (though economy 7 certainly helps, but the chemical routine really isn't that bad. We quickly lost interest in the bubbles, though, and putting the pump on a foam cushion reduces the hum, so hopefully we're not causing the neighbours any problems.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are at chess, its just going to knock over the pieces and strut around like its victorious.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 8th Jan 18, 8:38 PM
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    Any new advice would be appreciated.
    Originally posted by Moses2
    The nuclear option is to grow a good amount of comfrey, ostensibly to provide tomato fertilizer for your garden.

    Next, buy a tightly-lidded water butt and position it on the opposite side of the fence or wall from where noise usually emanates.

    Harvest your comfrey leaves, place them in the butt and top up with water. Leave for a few weeks and mother nature will do the rest.

    Then, when anti-social noise happens at unsuitable hours, simply remove the lid of the butt, give the mix inside a stir and retire immediately to a safe distance. The stink of the stuff is worse than the toilets on Day 4 at Glasto.

    This worked for me on a couple of occasions with neighbours who partied late on warm evenings, drinking wine, laughing and shouting, keeping my kids awake. They always assumed it was their drains.

    What's more, you'll get great tomatoes and never need to buy any more Tomorite. Very MSE.
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    • Valegirl
    • By Valegirl 22nd Mar 18, 5:10 PM
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    I know this is a relatively old post but my experience has been horrendous . I have lived next to a Lazy Spa that my neighbours have ( late 20!!!8217;s). We have very small gardens . They have had their spa for 3 years and switch it on April to October continuously . The problem is the low level hum that gets progressively worse as they do not clean/ maintain the filter . In fact they barely used it and during the summer the hum penetrated every room in my house - all night and severely impacted our sleep . Visitors to our house wondered how we coped . After 3 spoilt summers and pool parties till 1am at times we finally asked the environemtal health and showed them 100s of recordings . They sent a letter out straightaway . My neighbour promptly went to the online newspapers and accused me of a hate crime against her disabled son . He used the pool possibly twice on his birthday - the rest of the time the pool was the colour of urine and I would not have bathed my dog in it let alone a child . Added to that during last summer they went in the pool 4 times and each time jumped out saying it was freezing . But for a whole six months I had to listen to the pump chugging and vibrating like an electric sub station as their pool is placed on a wood decking . My health has badly suffered and I became ill with cancer due to the extreme stress . As I write now I can confirm that the neighbour on the other side has purchased a lazy spa last week . This is now classed as a low level noise disturbance . I am trapped between two pools and have been verbally attacked by my neighbours who feel I am !!!8220;getting at!!!8221; my neighbour who has a disabled child . This is not the case at all and it has been deliberately used to make me look like a terrible person . My advice is be careful should you complain to the council . Sometimes the fallout is far worse than the original problem .
    • anselld
    • By anselld 22nd Mar 18, 5:17 PM
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    I know this is a relatively old post but my experience has been horrendous . I have lived next to a Lazy Spa that my neighbours have ( late 20!!!8217;s). We have very small gardens . They have had their spa for 3 years and switch it on April to October continuously . The problem is the low level hum that gets progressively worse as they do not clean/ maintain the filter . In fact they barely used it and during the summer the hum penetrated every room in my house - all night and severely impacted our sleep . Visitors to our house wondered how we coped . After 3 spoilt summers and pool parties till 1am at times we finally asked the environemtal health and showed them 100s of recordings . They sent a letter out straightaway . My neighbour promptly went to the online newspapers and accused me of a hate crime against her disabled son . He used the pool possibly twice on his birthday - the rest of the time the pool was the colour of urine and I would not have bathed my dog in it let alone a child . Added to that during last summer they went in the pool 4 times and each time jumped out saying it was freezing . But for a whole six months I had to listen to the pump chugging and vibrating like an electric sub station as their pool is placed on a wood decking . My health has badly suffered and I became ill with cancer due to the extreme stress . As I write now I can confirm that the neighbour on the other side has purchased a lazy spa last week . This is now classed as a low level noise disturbance . I am trapped between two pools and have been verbally attacked by my neighbours who feel I am !!!8220;getting at!!!8221; my neighbour who has a disabled child . This is not the case at all and it has been deliberately used to make me look like a terrible person . My advice is be careful should you complain to the council . Sometimes the fallout is far worse than the original problem .
    Originally posted by Valegirl
    Why have the Council not followed up their letter.
    • Logangirl78
    • By Logangirl78 11th May 18, 10:29 PM
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    I wish I had seen this post last year. We took our neighbours to court last year over the noise emitted by their tub. It woke us every half an hour. Environmental health noted the noise from their readings but because it didn't beat the decibel threshold they could not help . They did however say that the frequency level was one which could annoyed. They suggested a private court summons. In the midst of court proceedings the neighbours erected a wooden gazebo around the tub and the sound diminished somewhat. We ended the court proceedings.
    However again this summer the noise is becoming more evident and we think the neighbours have now gone against the environmental health's recommendation of switching it off between 11pm and 7am. I agree with one of the previous comments, the fallout has been awful. But isn't it sad that despite us trying our very best to talk to the neighbours in the first instance they remained selfish to the core. Not everyone considers neighbours !!!314;ike perhaps good decent people do. Needless to say I certainly do not love thy neighbour, despise more like, hard to understand how some people are so self obsessed and fine if they are ok.
    Hot tub regulation laws are needed as they still seem to be popular status symbols for egotistical 'bleeps'.
    • lookstraightahead
    • By lookstraightahead 11th May 18, 10:38 PM
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    I love hot tubs, my neighbour has one and when she goes away we maintain it for her and use it. However if I had one and a neighbour was suffering it would take away the enjoyment.
    • Logangirl78
    • By Logangirl78 12th May 18, 6:49 PM
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    Ahh you sound like somebody who cares unfortunately my neighbours are incredibly selfish, they took it very personally and have become both verbally and physically abusive.
    • theartfullodger
    • By theartfullodger 12th May 18, 6:51 PM
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    On eBay: Or down the dump.....
    • quantumlobster
    • By quantumlobster 12th May 18, 7:47 PM
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    OP, go round to your neighbour and casually say, "the noise from your electric sex pond is very distracting. Could you do something about it?"
    • z1a
    • By z1a 12th May 18, 8:01 PM
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    I know this is a relatively old post but my experience has been horrendous . I have lived next to a Lazy Spa that my neighbours have ( late 20!!!8217;s). We have very small gardens . They have had their spa for 3 years and switch it on April to October continuously . The problem is the low level hum that gets progressively worse as they do not clean/ maintain the filter . In fact they barely used it and during the summer the hum penetrated every room in my house - all night and severely impacted our sleep . Visitors to our house wondered how we coped . After 3 spoilt summers and pool parties till 1am at times we finally asked the environemtal health and showed them 100s of recordings . They sent a letter out straightaway . My neighbour promptly went to the online newspapers and accused me of a hate crime against her disabled son . He used the pool possibly twice on his birthday - the rest of the time the pool was the colour of urine and I would not have bathed my dog in it let alone a child . Added to that during last summer they went in the pool 4 times and each time jumped out saying it was freezing . But for a whole six months I had to listen to the pump chugging and vibrating like an electric sub station as their pool is placed on a wood decking . My health has badly suffered and I became ill with cancer due to the extreme stress . As I write now I can confirm that the neighbour on the other side has purchased a lazy spa last week . This is now classed as a low level noise disturbance . I am trapped between two pools and have been verbally attacked by my neighbours who feel I am !!!8220;getting at!!!8221; my neighbour who has a disabled child . This is not the case at all and it has been deliberately used to make me look like a terrible person . My advice is be careful should you complain to the council . Sometimes the fallout is far worse than the original problem .
    Originally posted by Valegirl
    Cancer, because of stress from neighbours bath! Really?
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 13th May 18, 8:43 AM
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    I;ve had a hot tub for 14 years (for the people who;ve said it;ll go next summer).

    A couple of suggestions.
    What you are hearing the filter cycle. The jets/blower is coming on ever couple of hours to cycle the water through the filters.
    They will almost certainly have a control panel, you could ask them to alter the filter cycle so at least its not coming on during the hours that disturb you most.
    A friend of our summer had a similar issue and he was a DIY sort, so he insulated their tub for them. Better insulation is a potential practical solution.

    I am suprised you can smell chlorine. Most of the time they have a cover on and even if there us8ng it and you!!!8217;re next to it I!!!8217;m still supris3d that!!!8217;s a big issue.
    • Lioness Twinkletoes
    • By Lioness Twinkletoes 13th May 18, 9:02 AM
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    Cancer, because of stress from neighbours bath! Really?
    Originally posted by z1a

    Stress could cause and certainly exacerbate cancer.



    "Stress “could cause cancer”, according to The Daily Telegraph . The newspaper says that research in fruit flies provides evidence that “everyday emotional stress is a trigger for the growth of tumours”
    • z1a
    • By z1a 13th May 18, 9:29 AM
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    Stress could cause and certainly exacerbate cancer.



    "Stress “could cause cancer”, according to The Daily Telegraph . The newspaper says that research in fruit flies provides evidence that “everyday emotional stress is a trigger for the growth of tumours”
    Originally posted by Lioness Twinkletoes
    Never knew that. Every day's a schoolday.
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 13th May 18, 10:58 AM
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    according to The Daily Telegraph .
    Originally posted by Lioness Twinkletoes
    Well, they're the experts!
    • wesleyad
    • By wesleyad 13th May 18, 1:09 PM
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    The low hum can be extremely annoying. When I fitted ours it kept me up at night but my wife never even noticed it. That said its very easy to fix. Due to it's low frequency it easily travels down solid objects, through walls and into bedrooms. So basically if the tub is on solid decking and the decking is attached to the house wall, it will easily come into the house. What we did was simply insulated the pump and make sure it was placed on insulation (very important). This nullified the sound completely (unless you are stood right by it) and costs about £10. Anything will do, polystyrene blocks, inflatable items, just nothing too solid.
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