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    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 19th Apr 17, 4:35 PM
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    Universal credit
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    • 19th Apr 17, 4:35 PM
    Universal credit 19th Apr 17 at 4:35 PM
    In what increment is UC paid? day/week/month?

    My son signed on, he is in a HMO and pays 110/week (more later)

    He got 56/week after 7 days "waiting" (week in hand?) and got 1 months money but 3 weeks into his 2nd month he found a job, hes been told he shouldnt expect 3 weeks money!

    Rent............. after 5 weeks and lost paperwork they accepted his claim and granted him......86.........a month!

    Because?...........hes under 30 and in a high fraud risk situation or area...
    Dont worry, be happy
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    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 20th Apr 17, 11:06 AM
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    how strange..............
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    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 20th Apr 17, 11:18 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:18 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:18 AM
    In what increment is UC paid? day/week/month?

    My son signed on, he is in a HMO and pays 110/week (more later)

    He got 56/week after 7 days "waiting" (week in hand?) and got 1 months money but 3 weeks into his 2nd month he found a job, hes been told he shouldnt expect 3 weeks money!

    Rent............. after 5 weeks and lost paperwork they accepted his claim and granted him......86.........a month!

    Because?...........hes under 30 and in a high fraud risk situation or area...
    Originally posted by maxmycardagain
    Your post doesn't make a lot of sense which is probably why people have steered clear.

    I'll answer what I can. It is not a week in hand. It is 7 days unpaid.

    UC is paid based on a monthly income. It's different to JSA. If he got a job in week 3 of his second month his income may be above the UC threshold.

    UC will be paid to top up his monthly money to the UC amount, or, if his wages are higher, he will get no UC.

    He is working now, so what is wrong with 86 a month? He's only entitled to the shared room rate as he's under 30. Not sure what you mean by a high fraud risk situation, but amounts are awarde on circumstances, not 'risks'
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 21st Apr 17, 8:39 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:39 PM
    Your post doesn't make a lot of sense which is probably why people have steered clear.

    I'll answer what I can. It is not a week in hand. It is 7 days unpaid.

    UC is paid based on a monthly income. It's different to JSA. If he got a job in week 3 of his second month his income may be above the UC threshold.

    UC will be paid to top up his monthly money to the UC amount, or, if his wages are higher, he will get no UC.

    He is working now, so what is wrong with 86 a month? He's only entitled to the shared room rate as he's under 30. Not sure what you mean by a high fraud risk situation, but amounts are awarde on circumstances, not 'risks'
    Originally posted by marliepanda
    He got ONLY 86 for his rent...........or 20/week when his rent was 110, does that seem fair?

    And by taking a job 3 weeks into his 2nd months UC claim they have dodged paying hin 3 x 56/week...

    No wonder people a) fiddle and b) avoid taking a job
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    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 21st Apr 17, 8:40 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:40 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:40 PM
    UC told him he was 3 weeks "in credit" should he have to claim again!
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    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 21st Apr 17, 8:54 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:54 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:54 PM
    He got ONLY 86 for his rent...........or 20/week when his rent was 110, does that seem fair?

    And by taking a job 3 weeks into his 2nd months UC claim they have dodged paying hin 3 x 56/week...

    No wonder people a) fiddle and b) avoid taking a job
    Originally posted by maxmycardagain
    Well I have no idea of his rent or his local housing allowance for a room. 110 is probably above a shared room rate. 20 could indeed be fair. He is also earning money... I don't know his wages either

    UC is Not 56 a week, it's a monthly payment.


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    • jmaow
    • By jmaow 21st Apr 17, 11:57 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 11:57 PM
    You need to look on your local councils allowance for housing, the under 30 and single rate is low, UC will have looked at his earnings from his employer during his assessment period and deducted this from his benefit of 317.82 per month plus housing element award. It's a monthly paid benefit as the gov want people to develop budgeting skills as when you are employed you are paid monthly.
    • theronstar
    • By theronstar 23rd Apr 17, 11:01 PM
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    • 23rd Apr 17, 11:01 PM
    I struggled to follow the thread.

    Can you call the Universal Credit helpline and ask them to help you figure out the amounts?
    • ChrisDA95
    • By ChrisDA95 26th Apr 17, 12:11 AM
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    • 26th Apr 17, 12:11 AM
    Thank god it isn't just me who is struggling to read this thread, it feels like I am reading French.
    • Mersey
    • By Mersey 26th Apr 17, 12:17 AM
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    UC told him he was 3 weeks "in credit" should he have to claim again!
    Originally posted by maxmycardagain


    This makes sense - but the previous post (that they deducted 3 weeks' worth of UC doesn't ie both can't be true)


    Any earned income from employment is used to calculate the following month's UC payment.


    The rent figure doesn't sound right at all - so it's worth asking the DWP to check that. He can raise a complaint via the UC national contact centres over the 'phone if he believes it was miscalculated.


    Although from what you have said any owed re the housing element of UC may be cancelled out by the overpayment re earnings.
    Please be polite to OPs and remember this is a site for Claimants and Appellants to seek redress against their bank, ex-boss or retailer. If they wanted morality or the view of the IoD or Bank they'd ask them.
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 26th Apr 17, 10:21 AM
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    Congratulate your son on getting a job and forget about all this "free money" nonsense
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    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 26th Apr 17, 10:27 AM
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    This makes sense - but the previous post (that they deducted 3 weeks' worth of UC doesn't ie both can't be true)


    Any earned income from employment is used to calculate the following month's UC payment.


    The rent figure doesn't sound right at all - so it's worth asking the DWP to check that. He can raise a complaint via the UC national contact centres over the 'phone if he believes it was miscalculated.


    Although from what you have said any owed re the housing element of UC may be cancelled out by the overpayment re earnings.
    Originally posted by Mersey
    How can you say the rent figure sounds wrong when you don't know the sons income?
    • ChrisDA95
    • By ChrisDA95 26th Apr 17, 11:12 AM
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    How can you say the rent figure sounds wrong when you don't know the sons income?
    Originally posted by marliepanda
    I could it be wrong, but the rent figure is most likely the shared accommodation rate. There was a recent change in HB where new claimants under 30 could only get the lowest rate that the local authority awards.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 26th Apr 17, 11:14 AM
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    I could it be wrong, but the rent figure is most likely the shared accommodation rate. There was a recent change in HB where new claimants under 30 could only get the lowest rate that the local authority awards.
    Originally posted by ChrisDA95
    Agreed. However it is based on income, and is tapered. So you could potentially get 1 a week help if your income was near the threshold.

    We can't judge if 20 a week is fair or not based on the info provided
    • ChrisDA95
    • By ChrisDA95 26th Apr 17, 11:17 AM
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    Agreed. However it is based on income, and is tapered. So you could potentially get 1 a week help if your income was near the threshold.

    We can't judge if 20 a week is fair or not based on the info provided
    Originally posted by marliepanda
    I'm not making any judgements about whether it is fair, just simply stating that the reason the full rent isn't being covered is due to changes in housing benefit for under-30s. .
    • ChrisDA95
    • By ChrisDA95 26th Apr 17, 11:25 AM
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    It's 35. Under 35s get the shared rate, 35+ get the 1 bed rate.
    Originally posted by Penitent
    I stand corrected. I don't know too much about it myself, I believe my local authority and local JC are still in the middle of phasing UC in. .
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 26th Apr 17, 11:31 AM
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    I'm not making any judgements about whether it is fair, just simply stating that the reason the full rent isn't being covered is due to changes in housing benefit for under-30s. .
    Originally posted by ChrisDA95
    Agreed, however, I doubt any shared rates are as low as 20 a week, so there's certainly an income related element on it as well.
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