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    • breadstick123
    • By breadstick123 21st Jan 17, 2:15 PM
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    Parking Charge Notice from Vehicle Control Services LTD
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    • 21st Jan 17, 2:15 PM
    Parking Charge Notice from Vehicle Control Services LTD 21st Jan 17 at 2:15 PM
    I have read and seen a lot of contradicting things regarding the action that should be taken on a received PCN, any advice would be of help. The vehicle in question was parked in a close (on private property) overnight. The warning signs around the close were not noticed until the morning when it was too late - as the notice had already been put onto the windscreen (at 8.30am according to the paper - who is awake at that time on a Saturday?!!).

    The PCN was left by a company called Vehicle Control Services, and on the back it states that they are an approved operator and a member of the British Parking Association and that they operate in accordance with the "Code of Practice for Enforcement of Parking on Private Land" (whether this is true or not I don't really know)

    First option obviously is to pay up - the vehicle was parked on private property without a pay & display ticket or valid parking permit, so this seems fair enough.
    However when scrolling through the internet I have seen a lot of advice to ignore the notice, though the situations I have read have been different to mine (eg, parked too long in a retail carpark etc).
    Third option would be to appeal the notice, though I don't know how much ground there would be to stand on, per se.

    So what shall I do? Pay the 60 fine (which apparently increases to 100 after 14 days), ignore the notice (and tell the registered keeper to ignore any subsequent letters, which according to these forums can be quite demanding), or do I make an appeal?
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 21st Jan 17, 3:35 PM
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    • #2
    • 21st Jan 17, 3:35 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:35 PM
    your choice , but VCS LTD is an BPA member so if you dont want to pay this INVOICE (not fine) then you can follow the advice in the NEWBIES sticky thread , using the blue text template , then go to popla whenj they refuse the appeal and issue a popla code

    at that point your appeal will be based on legal arguments (as explained in the NEWBIES sticky thread) and if you are successful you pay nothing at all

    if you are unsuccessful , you would be held accountable for 100 and a possible court case in the next 6 years using the MCOL small claims system (google it)

    you can also google the BPA website , plus you can download their latest CoP from their website too , when you read it , this will tell you the rules VCS LTD "should" follow

    only a fool would IGNORE it and the advice changed in 2012 , so 4.5 years ago (since POFA2012 came in)

    so those are the facts , you must do as you wish , not expect us to tell you what to do because adults make their own decisions, hopefully when they know all the facts

    good luck
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Jan 17, 3:36 PM
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    • #3
    • 21st Jan 17, 3:36 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:36 PM
    VCS is in the IPC, so no POPLA:

    https://theipc.info/aos-members/v

    First option obviously is to pay up
    No, it really is NOT. We urge everyone - DO NOT pay these.

    Do not be that person who sponsors this bunch and funds the next PCNs against vulnerable victims. If no-one paid private PCNs this 'industry' would not have become the monster they have done recently.

    The PCN was left by a company called Vehicle Control Services, and on the back it states that they are an approved operator and a member of the British Parking Association
    The PCN says they are in the BPA AOS? Or the IPC AOS and happen to also be corporate members of the BPA?
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 21-01-2017 at 3:40 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 21st Jan 17, 3:38 PM
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    • #4
    • 21st Jan 17, 3:38 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:38 PM
    its the other VCS , VCS LTD aka FLASHPARK (cos I made that mistake too at first and edited my post asap)
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Jan 17, 3:42 PM
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    • #5
    • 21st Jan 17, 3:42 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:42 PM
    But the OP names 'Vehicle Control Services LTD'?
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 21st Jan 17, 3:47 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:47 PM
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    • 21st Jan 17, 3:47 PM
    yep , and the BPA list says this

    Vehicle Control Solutions Ltd t/as Flashpark Ltd http://www.flashpark.co.uk

    I thought it was the other mob too, but I think its actually Flashpark

    so I thought the OP had used the wrong word in the name , seeing as it mentions being a BPA member and not the IPC

    need the OP to clarify which VCS it actually is , lol (I am not sure myself now)

    I think it is a Flashpark self ticketing pcn, which is how it was left by 0830 ( a local resident on a commission ? )
    Last edited by Redx; 21-01-2017 at 3:52 PM.
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Jdee
    • By Jdee 11th Jan 18, 5:56 PM
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    • #7
    • 11th Jan 18, 5:56 PM
    Claim form from vehicle control
    • #7
    • 11th Jan 18, 5:56 PM
    I have ignored all demands for payment from this company but have today received a 'Claim form' for county court business centre and a total amount of 243.44 to be paid.
    I'm slightly concerned now. Should I ignore or appeal? Any advice would be welcome.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Jan 18, 5:59 PM
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    • #8
    • 11th Jan 18, 5:59 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 5:59 PM
    neither

    if you have an MCOL from Northampton CCBC you need to do the AOS and prepare a defence because you have received a real live civil court claim

    see post #2 of the NEWBIES sticky thread for help on this (especially the BARGEPOLE posts) , then post your draft defence on here for critique (after the AOS has been done on the MCOL website) you have extended the time for your defence submission from 14 to 28 days)

    I warned you in post #2 that this may happen , a year ago
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Jdee
    • By Jdee 11th Jan 18, 6:04 PM
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    • #9
    • 11th Jan 18, 6:04 PM
    Next step
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    • 11th Jan 18, 6:04 PM
    Thank you I'm a little lost regarding the abbreviations used, could you please clarify? Also could you if possible provide a quick link to the relevant post you refer to as I'm a little slow at navigating these forums!! Thank you
    • Redx
    • By Redx 11th Jan 18, 6:07 PM
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    go to the top of this forum locate the NEWBIES faq sticky thread , about the third thread down normally , and click on it

    post #2 delas with court claims with plenty of links

    post #4 deals with acronyms

    please read that thread a few times until it sinks in , especially posts #2 and #5
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Jdee
    • By Jdee 11th Jan 18, 6:13 PM
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    I cannot find the sticky thread?
    • Jdee
    • By Jdee 11th Jan 18, 6:32 PM
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    Any one help? I don't know what a sticky thread is or how to find it. When I search it gives me everything but....?
    • Jdee
    • By Jdee 11th Jan 18, 6:35 PM
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    How do I find sticky thread on newbies please?
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 11th Jan 18, 6:36 PM
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    With your last post showing, click the BACK button, which will take you to the main Parking Tickets, Fines and Parking. Scroll right to the top and count down from there and you will see POST #3. Click on it. Read, learn and inwardly digest .................


    ............ and if that doesn't work, click on THIS link.
    Last edited by Le_Kirk; 11-01-2018 at 6:39 PM.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Jan 18, 8:48 PM
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    Or see my signature - below - which you've already seen twice already in replies #3 and #5, now PLEASE READ IT!!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 11th Jan 18, 9:23 PM
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    JDee, are you the same person that started this thread a year ago?

    You were then using breadstick123 as a username.
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    • claxtome
    • By claxtome 11th Jan 18, 9:26 PM
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    JDee, are you the same person that started this thread a year ago?

    You were then using breadstick123 as a username.
    OR if not you should you be starting your own thread!
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