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    • daddy_bro
    • By daddy_bro 1st Sep 16, 11:52 PM
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    Anybody heard of CWL
    • #1
    • 1st Sep 16, 11:52 PM
    Anybody heard of CWL 1st Sep 16 at 11:52 PM
    I've had a couple of phone calls from a company called CWL offering a system for buying and selling shares. They make wild promises about making 10% per month. I've searched everywhere on line but cannot find anyone with a bad word to say about them but then again there is very little out there apart from some press releases and a tiny number of forum treads.
    Has anyone heard of them, good or bad?

    Sorry for making this my first post in ten years membership, been very busy.
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    • elephantrosie
    • By elephantrosie 11th Jun 17, 7:25 PM
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    is this a ponzi scheme?
    Another night of thankfulness.
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 11th Jun 17, 9:01 PM
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    is this a ponzi scheme?
    Originally posted by elephantrosie
    No. A Ponzi scheme is completely different.
    It's just a straightforward scam.
    Last edited by AnotherJoe; 11-06-2017 at 10:30 PM.
    • daddy_bro
    • By daddy_bro 14th Jun 17, 11:30 PM
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    Run guys, just run from these guys. I'm a victim after persistent calls fell for it .....................huge regret, the software is so disappointing, prompts you to buy the "so called" best stock and you eventually lose you money, so what's the point predicting that you buy that stock! Anyways I realised I've been an idiot, called them after trading for 5months that I'll like to pull out, apparently accepted my reasons, emailed me to confirm closure of account within their so-called 30days processing period, it's been 90days or more now, i have called trying to at least see if i can get some money back, apparently the deal sold to me was that if I'm not happy they can buy back the software at a discount price, so I at least get some quids back - ALL LIES!!, calls just drops each time or is permanently engaged, I guess someone has blocked my email, they won't response to my email as well - Lost in total 2995 - SO SAD!
    Originally posted by Ladidemi1
    Sorry to hear you were scammed, that sucks but thank you for warning us and anyone else who might read this.
    I missed the previous replies to this thread so apologies to the other guys who responded. I chucked the correspondence they sent me ages ago so can't remember the detail but they sent me a glossy brochure which started out by saying that
    "Banks make millions on the stock market by using specialised software that can predict rises and falls, and now you can too"
    It then goes on to tell you how great it is without really telling you anything about the 'system' or how it works. Big on claims and zero content
    I also figured after a bit of searching that the forum posts were fake so wised up, did my own research and decided to do my own thing for better or worse.
    • Malthusian
    • By Malthusian 15th Jun 17, 2:32 PM
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    It's time to change your phone number. You're on a mugs list.
    Originally posted by Vortigern
    Quite. Ignore the cold calls that you will be getting shortly telling you that they can help you recover your money (if you pay them X to cover legal costs).

    That would still be pretty one sided unless they were sharing your losses too.
    by Glen Clark
    Exactly my point, which is why people should ask why CWL aren't offering this.
    • ttt123
    • By ttt123 15th Jun 17, 7:47 PM
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    company dissolved 4/4/17 .. big scam
    • daddy_bro
    • By daddy_bro 16th Jun 17, 9:17 AM
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    company dissolved 4/4/17 .. big scam
    Originally posted by ttt123
    Probably started up again under a new name.
    • Gadfium
    • By Gadfium 16th Jun 17, 10:22 AM
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    company dissolved 4/4/17 .. big scam
    Originally posted by ttt123
    I am so surprised. They had all the hallmarks of being genuine....

    • Smoth
    • By Smoth 27th Jun 17, 11:44 AM
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    CWL Quick Trade System #Rip-off-Briton
    CWL Quick Trade System #Rip-off-Briton

    I brought this software with the 100% guarantee return, It all seemed fine as the support was good even though I kept losing money. Now my year is up to retrieve a money back guarantee the company is now vanished. John Mathews was very persistent as I told them three time I was not interested, they managed to get me on a good day and now I'm trying to get me money back. If I get the money back I will stop going through the entire world network naming and shaming these below people.

    Name and shame do not buy this software as it just loses your money.

    John Matthews AKA Peter Mathews
    Mark Kane Support Desk
    Charlie Davis Support Desk
    William Lawrence Senior Analyst

    Below was the only thing I could find on Clive.

    MR CLIVE WILLIAM LAWRENCE is a Training Consultant from Bridgwater Somerset. This person was born in April 1970, which was over 47 years ago. MR CLIVE WILLIAM LAWRENCE is British and resident in England. This company officer is, or was, associated with at least 1 company roles.
    Their most recent appointment, in our records, was to CWL TRAINING LIMITED on 2014-06-02.

    The Hollies, Woolavington Hill
    TA7 8HG
    • Wayne Canwell
    • By Wayne Canwell 9th Jul 17, 1:52 PM
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    Wayne Canwell
    I'm in the same place.
    Appeared on the face of it to be a system but clearly just a scam.
    As they used a third party card handler for the deposit on a credit card, there is little chance of S75 of the Consumer Credit Act being useful although card companies differ so its worth a try.

    I suspect these people will all vanish and do it again under different names.
    Last edited by Wayne Canwell; 09-07-2017 at 1:58 PM. Reason: update
    • YaYa93
    • By YaYa93 20th Aug 17, 1:20 PM
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    Me too! In case you are still following this up, or others are interested in doing so, these points may be worth noting:

    1. Your contract was probably with Commerce Ware Limited, a UK company which is now in the process of being dissolved for not filing accounts. (I was told there is a connection with a company in Hong Kong of a similar name but this is not verifiable from public records so far as I am aware.)
    2. The sole director and shareholder of that company is Chris David Nathan, whose correspondence address has recently been removed from the Companies House website but was previously shown as 3 Cambridge Terrace, Regents Park, London NW1 4JL. He was born in December 1981.
    3. CWL Training Limited has been compulsorily dissolved, though I suspect your contract was not with that company.
    4. I was sold the software by William Lawrence, who made a number of claims along the lines reported in this thread, most of which I heavily discounted but decided to proceed as a high risk punt. So I only have myself to blame! Well, not entirely as the claims made would never have been permitted in a regulated business, and the lack of transparency in the business and its trading record suggested things might not have been what they should. Perhaps something which the Serious Fraud Office should investigate.
    5. Sorry to hear you and others have lost money with the software. I have actually made a very small profit, though this is a long way from the exaggerated claims made by CWL. I found Charlie Davis quite helpful, and probably too junior to be one of the people responsible for the running of the operation.
    6. The CWL phone lines went dead around the beginning of June 2017, and the stock data website for which an additional fee was charged went dead around the beginning of August. Up till then it was possible to use the software even without the support. So far as I can discover, free stock data is limited to data on single companies so would take too long to download for 1100 or so companies a day.

    So we live and learn. But as our law enforcement authorities and regulators are often slow to act or just pursue the wrong targets (did anyone actually lose money over Barclay's fund raising in 2007/8?) I fully support your naming and shaming programme.
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