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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 13th Sep 18, 2:55 PM
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    Please be kind about electric can openers! They're one way that helps ladies in their late 80s stay in their own homes and lead independent lives - plenty of ladies of that age (in my mother's town, and my mother herself) had bad arthritis, and needed an electric can opener for any processed food in cans - soup, baked beans, mince, you name it.
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    • Elona
    • By Elona 13th Sep 18, 6:59 PM
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    Karmacat

    Don't forget the battery operated tin openers either. So far the arthuritis, blast it, just seems to be crumbling my knees and maybe elbows but I have two ordinary openers and a battery one tucked away.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 13th Sep 18, 7:16 PM
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    Karmacat

    Don't forget the battery operated tin openers either. So far the arthuritis, blast it, just seems to be crumbling my knees and maybe elbows but I have two ordinary openers and a battery one tucked away.
    Originally posted by Elona
    Thanks honey - yep, we need a good variety of many tools like that.
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 13th Sep 18, 10:46 PM
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    Scots weather forums reporting lots of skeins of geese flying south now, very early indeed. Not sure if it means anything though..
    • maryb
    • By maryb 14th Sep 18, 5:18 PM
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    Mar, have you come across any winter forecasts yet.? Looks like an El NiŮo may be forming but the sites I’ve looked at say that means winter in Europe could be cold. Alternatively could mean it will be mild

    One thing I have noticed is that the hawthorn bushes are loaded with more berries than I have ever seen. So much so that the green of the leaves and the red of the berries blends into a sludgy browny maroon when you look at it from a few feet away
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 14th Sep 18, 5:46 PM
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    Mar, have you come across any winter forecasts yet.? Looks like an El NiŮo may be forming but the sites Iíve looked at say that means winter in Europe could be cold. Alternatively could mean it will be mild

    One thing I have noticed is that the hawthorn bushes are loaded with more berries than I have ever seen. So much so that the green of the leaves and the red of the berries blends into a sludgy browny maroon when you look at it from a few feet away
    Originally posted by maryb
    It's been a wonderful year for berry-bearing domesticated fruits such as red and blackcurrants and gooseberries as well as for the blackberries. I noticed that the oaks are producing a lot of acorns but haven't been anywhere near beeches to see if this is a mast year.


    Folklore says that heavy crops of berries presage a cold winter, but all it actually means is that the spring and summertime conditions favour that plant.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 14th Sep 18, 9:06 PM
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    No forecasts yet.
    Just one saying we're going to have another money crash like 2008. Which didn't affect me at all so I'm not panicking lol
    • Elona
    • By Elona 14th Sep 18, 9:41 PM
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    mardatha

    I had a look at Dave King's site and he does not seem to be suggesting a bad winter but does mention a very cold February next year.

    I found what looks like a very pretty throw at nearly half price so ordered it for the living room and have stocked up on basic tinned and dried food, toilet rolls and toiletries. I am already sorted for tealights, a few solar lights and torches and hot water bottles and have made sure I have an extra month or two of medications.
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 14th Sep 18, 10:20 PM
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    My neighbour's mother used to make me laugh when she'd mutter, "Och, many hips & haws, there'll be some snaws!" at our hedgerows. Fair enough, she'd fly down from Glasgow for a couple of days & she was usually right, there'd be plenty of snow - in Glasgow. But not down here! But agreeing with maryb, I've never seen so many haws; the hedgerows here look red.

    One thing that interested me was that the Met Office said at one point that it's rare to get just one hot summer, there'll usually be two or three in a row. I have a feeling that that might also apply to cold winters; if I remember correctly they're both caused by the same kind of patterns in the jet stream. So I'm ramping up the preps a bit, but of course down here that probably just means a couple of days of icy unpleasantness. You never know, though...
    Angie

    GC Sept 18 - £324.45/£380
    Bulk-buy purse '18 £145.26/£250, pet & livestock food '18 £273.63/£300

    Money's just a substitute for time & talent...
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 15th Sep 18, 8:33 AM
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    I observe some Americans decided not to heed the assorted warnings and paid the most-over-inflated price for their freedom. I excuse the baby, but good grief.

    Meanwhile we're to greet Helene next week - I think while we may not take preparedness quite as commercially as some Americans do, we can none the less apply horse sense and a pinch of dubious pessimism with (I hope) a higher survival rate outcome.

    Says she going to check fleeces, blankets & cat litter (said to be effective for traction underfoot), check what haws look like (Things One Learns From Google - TOLFroGs?) & consider syrups and cheeses. Whom to pick to test the berries for sweetness, given no frost as yet?!)
    Last edited by DigForVictory; 15-09-2018 at 8:37 AM.
    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 15th Sep 18, 8:45 AM
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    If it is going to be windy next week might pick the pears and apples from the garden to store in the garage. Had an apple pear and bramble ( all from the garden) crumble yesterday and 2 granddaughters said it was pink crumble and ate the lot.
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 15th Sep 18, 9:24 AM
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    Ooh - next time, have a pinch of hm edible glitter handy?!

    And watch the menfolk look bemused at the many ways of women...
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 15th Sep 18, 7:08 PM
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    I'll show you mine.
    I've been reviewing my prepping supplies, and decided to post a picture of my survival tin.


    Anyone else fancy posting a picture of theirs?
    Last edited by Bedsit Bob; 16-09-2018 at 12:46 AM.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 15th Sep 18, 9:48 PM
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    Bob that's very professional-looking! Have to say, I don't have one, unless I can count my van as a very large tin? I do have plenty of tins about the place, but mostly they contain biscuits or sewing kit or stamps. And I do have space blankets, paracord, tarps etc. but they all live in corners of my van or in the "camping" shed.

    In other news, I went on a sourdough information course this morning. It was really interesting, and helped me identify exactly where I'm going wrong - why my cultures die off, or my bread takes two days to rise, etc. It's meant to be a taster for a paid day-long event, but I'm hoping I learnt enough for free to go forward in the right direction now, though I will sign up for the day-long thing if my next few attempts don't make the grade. It all helps build self-reliance...
    Angie

    GC Sept 18 - £324.45/£380
    Bulk-buy purse '18 £145.26/£250, pet & livestock food '18 £273.63/£300

    Money's just a substitute for time & talent...
    • calicocat
    • By calicocat 15th Sep 18, 10:44 PM
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    No forecasts yet.
    Just one saying we're going to have another money crash like 2008. Which didn't affect me at all so I'm not panicking lol
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Hi,

    Dipping in again, read more than post as seem like I am always at work.

    Anyhow, yes this seems to be figuring a lot at the moment. Which switches me back to prepping and here. They seem to be saying it will be worse than last time, which I in real terms didnít feel to be honest . They seem to think this time it wonít be the banks going down, but business, in most sectors, which will have a bigger potential impact on everyone . Could be rubbish of course, but got me back into prep mode. Plus thinking I need to list nd check what I have food-wise and rotate/use.

    I bought a few bags of vaccume packed wild rice a while ago. When checking them they are no longer vaccume packed , and are now more lose bags if that makes sense.....the vaccume bit has gone or blown. Why would that happen? No holes in bags I can see at all, all been stored in tact and not moved. Sell by date still ok. And how long would they last ?. I have been using them up as wasnít sure about it and will buy new to store, just curious as to what would make this happen.
    Yep...still at it, working out how to retire early........ Going to have to rethink that scenario as have been screwed over by the company. A work in progress.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 15th Sep 18, 11:35 PM
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    Bob, I don't have a tin,unless you count the Body Shop coconut-wax-for-hair tin, which contains a little sewing kit.

    I do have a little Colman's mustard tin I put by when I had a clearout recently: trying to decide what to put in it
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 16th Sep 18, 7:44 AM
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    Calicocat I'm afraid I don't know anything about vacuum sealing, maybe Greyqueen or MrsL will see your post and comment, they'll know.
    Thriftwizard you really should have a backup tin/bag/stash somewhere in the house, vans can be pinched or damaged!
    • boddy
    • By boddy 16th Sep 18, 8:22 AM
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    Reading Greyqueens what if situation has made me rethink my preps. So list made and today will be spent checking. Then I have thought what if the internet goes down. Maybe handy to have a small notebook with essential information in.
    • maryb
    • By maryb 16th Sep 18, 8:37 AM
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    Sourdough is fascinating isn’t it? I went on a day course and loved it. I had, in fact, managed to get a starter going, though it never doubles in size or anything like that but it does make bread rise very nicely. The secret I stumbled across was to chuck out a LOT more than the half all the books say to discard before feeding it. I only keep a spoonful now and feed it with 50g of water and 50 of flour. Before it always ended up smelling of acetone which I now know is a sign of a starving starter

    I also use organic flour to avoid glyphosate residues killing the good bacteria ditto water that has been left to stand to allow the chlorine to dissipate. Seems to help.
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 16th Sep 18, 8:39 AM
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    Thriftwizard you really should have a backup tin/bag/stash somewhere in the house, vans can be pinched or damaged!
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Er, yes. Although you are probably geographically safe from my predatory survival techniques, other indolent louts are available.

    GQ with her might-be-stashed-in-here somewhere allotment shed backup gear appears to have hidden in plain sight sussed. (Me, I still think dazzle is on trend for camouflage & do only slightly better at persiflage, but the family enthusiasm for things that might come in useful [as well as eating regularly] make us mildly techie, mildly engineering-type hobbits, although we largely blow the breed standard for height.) Happily our house is such a you-have-to-live-here-to-find-things environment even burglars have so far decided it fails their H&S requirements. In this place, a labelled tin might be exactly what it says, or it might be an out-of-date label & in fact contain unexpected items. (So far, I have not been allowed to buy the mercury switches, with this cited as the main reason along with the inevitable bewilderment of our law & order providers.)

    boddy - you remind me that I did say I was going to update one son's SOS talisman & my address list, and once I have the mapping pens out I will do so.
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