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    • TiredTrophy
    • By TiredTrophy 8th Aug 18, 2:20 PM
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    If you dry the seed of runner beans for use, please boil them for ten minutes after soaking like red kidney beans, before simmering til soft...same toxin.
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 8th Aug 18, 9:48 PM
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    Frosty we've had ours 15 years now! It's enormous; covers half the garage. It's very beautiful & the bees love it, but it's a total slacker on the fruit front. About 5 years ago it started to produce 4 or 5 tiny fruits per year, which it took hours of intense searching to find. But this year there are more, and they're bigger, so maybe it's just a case of waiting until it gets the hang of it!

    Other people I know with kiwi vines are inundated with fruit every year, but not us; our local permaculture guru tells me it's because it was next to a golden hop, which apparently can suppress fruiting in other plants nearby. We took the hop out last year - there are plenty growing wild down by the river - and lo & behold, the kiwi has done better this year...
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    • Cappella
    • By Cappella 8th Aug 18, 10:08 PM
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    I love salted runner beans. They have a unique flavour that reminds me of my childhood. I used to salt two glass sweetie jars of them every year and eat them all myself because MrC loathes them. It's really hard to get the pure block salt though now, last year I couldn't find it and table salt didn't work at all. They fermented and were wasted.
    The secret if you do try them is to rinse them really well in running water then soak them overnight in fresh cold water. Put them in a pan, cover with cold water and bring them to the boil. Boil for two minutes then pour the water away and rinse again. Cover with cold water bring to the boil again and simmer for 10-15 minutes.
    By this time they will have very little mineral in vitamin content but you will really get the runner bean flavour. Lovely with pork or sausages, mash and gravy.
    I think it's an acquired taste though. Mum used to salt at least 10 jars every summer and we ate them at least three times a week through the winter. !!!128522;
    • dND
    • By dND 9th Aug 18, 9:03 AM
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    Good luck with your new venture kittie - I'm glad you came back even if only to say goodbye. We'll miss you, and you'll be very welcome should you have the time to return.

    • alice-mary
    • By alice-mary 9th Aug 18, 9:42 AM
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    Good Luck from me too Kittie, you have been so kind with your messages, tips and comments and have been such an inspiration! I really hope that you will only be having a little break from MSE and that you will come back but whatever you decide, I wish you peace, health and happiness for the future,

    Alice
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 9th Aug 18, 11:02 AM
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    I need some feedback please, about food safety. I haven't trusted my freezer for ages, though it seems more reliable when I defrost it however, I defrosted about 3 weeks ago, and bought a kilo of frozen cauli I hadn't opened till just now. It's been in the drawer immediately under the fast freeze drawer at the top.


    A few of the florets are still frozen, but most of them are soft it's on a freeze setting of 4, with 5 being the highest.



    I've only owned a freezer since I moved to this house, and I've no idea if that cauli is safe to eat ... if it is, I'll eat some today, some tomorrow, and dehydrate the rest, thats enough. But I've really no idea if its safe. Any feedback?
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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Aug 18, 11:13 AM
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    A few of the florets are still frozen, but most of them are soft it's on a freeze setting of 4, with 5 being the highest.
    Originally posted by Karmacat
    If it's soft, it's not frozen!

    What temperature is the freezer actually achieving?
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 9th Aug 18, 11:20 AM
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    If it's soft, it's not frozen!
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    Indeed!


    What temperature is the freezer actually achieving?
    I don't know - I have digital thermometers for human use, but nothing to take the temperature of a freezer
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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Aug 18, 11:22 AM
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    I don't know - I have digital thermometers for human use, but nothing to take the temperature of a freezer
    Originally posted by Karmacat
    Buy one? .............
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 9th Aug 18, 11:33 AM
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    YeahSureYouBetcha.
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    • melodramaticme
    • By melodramaticme 9th Aug 18, 12:03 PM
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    Hi Karmacat - how long would you have kept cauliflower if you hadn't had a freezer? It will have taken some time to defrost, so it is likely to be a question of your judgement as to whether to use or not ( sorry that sounds like a cop-out by me) I think I would at least try some of it rather than tip it straight in the bin, but I know that my sister would have thrown it out straight away,


    I think you can get those card thermostats that show a range of temperatures for fridges and freezers, and have colour coded squares which show the range of temperatures reached.


    Just found that Wilkos do a fridge thermometer for 2. https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-fridge-freezer-thermometer/p/0222255

    HTH
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 9th Aug 18, 12:55 PM
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    Hi melodramaticme, thanks for this.

    Hi Karmacat - how long would you have kept cauliflower if you hadn't had a freezer?
    Originally posted by melodramaticme
    Erm ... I can't really answer that, I don't know how I'd have coped with how my health has been these last 5 years, without a freezer.


    It will have taken some time to defrost, so it is likely to be a question of your judgement as to whether to use or not ( sorry that sounds like a cop-out by me) I think I would at least try some of it rather than tip it straight in the bin, but I know that my sister would have thrown it out straight away,
    There's lots of ice crystals on very hard florets, so I think some of it at least is frozen properly. I'm very tempted to try at least some of it, which is why I posted at all, but I've just realised I only yesterday finished a course of antibiotics for some sort of infection somewhere in my digestive system (and it really wasn't pinpointed, in all honesty!) so I think discretion is called for *today*, in any case.


    I think you can get those card thermostats that show a range of temperatures for fridges and freezers, and have colour coded squares which show the range of temperatures reached.

    Just found that Wilkos do a fridge thermometer for 2. https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-fridge-freezer-thermometer/p/0222255

    HTH
    Thank you! It does help - with one thing and another, including the wheelie bin liners for 2, a trip to Wilko is called for.
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    • nannywindow
    • By nannywindow 9th Aug 18, 3:51 PM
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    Hello all

    Would you mind if I join in. I have been lurking for quite a while but MrsL has made me ........ er suggested that I take the bull by the horns and come out of lurkdom.
    So here I am, warts and all .

    I can no longer garden other than cut the grass, but I have a thornless blackberry bush and a blackcurrant bush, both of them this year have borne a lot of fruit. Likewise my Dad has given me copious amounts of rhubarb. They have all been assigned to the freezer until I can make something, other than jam ( which only I eat ) crumble or tarts. I was wondering if anyone had any other suggestions ?
    Thanks
    nan
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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Aug 18, 3:55 PM
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    There's lots of ice crystals on very hard florets, so I think some of it at least is frozen properly.
    Originally posted by Karmacat
    It's unlikely that commercially-frozen cauli would have ice crystals on it - that suggests that the freezer is cycling through a temperature range and that the stuff in it has partially defrozen and then refrozen, possibly several times - not good!
    • Cappella
    • By Cappella 9th Aug 18, 3:58 PM
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    I'm afraid I agree with Mojisola Karmacat. Large ice crystals usually mean it's partially defrosted and then refrozen. I really wouldn't risk it, and I eat almost anything!
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 9th Aug 18, 4:37 PM
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    Hiya Nannywindow, lovely to see you here, you'll be glad I made you do it! It's been a very (too) good blackberry year here too about the only thing other than courgettes (aka triffids) that really has done well although having said that we currently have some absolutely delicious sweetcorn in the garden.


    Rhubarb if you have much of it makes a really nice syrup that is used as a soft drink, nice when you dilute it with fizzy water, Ikea sells it every spring, it's a Swedish 'thing'. I've been aware of fruit 'Shrubs' too this year which are fruit vinegars again used for diluting as a soft drink which might be very pleasant. I freeze plastic bottles of cordial if I make it as they can ferment even if you keep them in the fridge. I reckon a fresh bottle/defrosted one from the freezer will keep good for around 6 weeks if you subsequently keep it in the fridge. They keep years in the freezer and when you DO freeze them make sure to leave a good 'head space ' at the neck end of the jar to allow the liquid to expand on freezing or you get a very sticky fridge to clean...ask me how I know this???
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • Cappella
    • By Cappella 9th Aug 18, 4:42 PM
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    Apologies nannywindow I missed your post. And welcome to the prepping thread
    I made currant cordial this year and froze it. It's lively though so I doubt it's going to last very long, even well hidden! I make blackcurrant compote with frozen blackcurrants, just add sugar to taste, stew it gently and seize it (I struggle with the seeds). It's very refreshing when added to yogurt at breakfast time.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 9th Aug 18, 4:59 PM
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    Hello all

    Would you mind if I join in. I have been lurking for quite a while but MrsL has made me ........ er suggested that I take the bull by the horns and come out of lurkdom.
    So here I am, warts and all .
    Originally posted by nannywindow
    Welcome from me too! As far as rhubarb goes, I have some pretty successful plants, and I wanted to find a way to use them without adding more sugar, which wouldn't suit my digestive system. So I googled "savoury rhubarb recipes", and this is a typical set that came up:
    https://www.treehugger.com/green-food/7-savory-recipes-use-rhubarb.html


    HTH
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 9th Aug 18, 5:19 PM
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    Cordial sounds lovely nannywindow or a syrup you could add to ice cream... or topping for cakes... oh god I wish I had some ice cream and cake!
    • frosty
    • By frosty 9th Aug 18, 5:23 PM
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    Frosty we've had ours 15 years now! It's enormous; covers half the garage. It's very beautiful & the bees love it, but it's a total slacker on the fruit front. About 5 years ago it started to produce 4 or 5 tiny fruits per year, which it took hours of intense searching to find. But this year there are more, and they're bigger, so maybe it's just a case of waiting until it gets the hang of it!

    Other people I know with kiwi vines are inundated with fruit every year, but not us; our local permaculture guru tells me it's because it was next to a golden hop, which apparently can suppress fruiting in other plants nearby. We took the hop out last year - there are plenty growing wild down by the river - and lo & behold, the kiwi has done better this year...
    Originally posted by thriftwizard
    Thanks for replying,we have ours in the polytunnel.We live in Scotland and we weren't sure it would survive outside.Hopefully we will have fruit soon,it grows fast and has masses of flowers.
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