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    • DawnW
    • By DawnW 5th Aug 18, 9:11 PM
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    I saw this same thing mentioned on another forum. Apparently Sainsburys have a "supplier issue" due to pieces of metal being found in some packets of granulated sugar. I suppose people who couldn't get the granulated sugar they wanted chose to buy a different sort rather than try a different store.
    Apparently there was plenty in Morrison's when the poster tried there
    Originally posted by ivyleaf

    That is useful to know. Thank you Ivyleaf. Not sure why the supermarket in question couldn't have put up a notice, or even informed their staff, as when I asked her, the checkout assistant didn't know why the shelves were empty.

    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 5th Aug 18, 9:28 PM
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    I'll quite shamelessly knock on doors and ask whether the inhabitants are using their crab apples/Japonica quinces, and if not, please may I pick some? I usually return a jar of the finished product to them, and quite often they contact me the next year (and beyond) to ask whether I'd like the fruit before they dump it. Quite often I get the response, "But they're not edible!" or even "Aren't they poisonous?!" as people don't realise that not everything that's edible tastes good straight from the tree.
    .
    Originally posted by thriftwizard
    If I listened to my mother, I'd still believe that mushrooms bought from the supermarket were poisonous if not cooked, golden raspberries were poisonous, mint when it flowered was poisonous, cherry plums were poisonous, blah, blah, blah.

    Turned out that she associated foraging with Travellers (or the assorted nasty words she preferred to use) and, racism, blah, blah, being landed with a 5th kid that looked more Irish than anything else (I wouldn't have been surprised had it turned out I'd been switched out as a baby, I look so different to everybody else) and I was more interested in getting along with animals than people, anything that she thought made me appear to her to be Not English was ruthlessly eradicated. Including a Cherry Plum and the Gooseberries when she was asked nicely if they could be taken if we didn't want them.

    We're off on our various summer stomps across the West Country soon. Whilst the trees and hedgerows are generally stripped bare of everything by the end of this fortnight (OH's a Dartmoor Boy), we might be able to pick a few things on the last couple of days and if we do, that's jam for the next year sorted.
    Last edited by Jojo the Tightfisted; 05-08-2018 at 9:32 PM.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 5th Aug 18, 9:51 PM
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    Jojo, I'm also Dartmoor born & bred. Say hello to my beautiful & much-missed home for me...
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    • ziggy2004
    • By ziggy2004 5th Aug 18, 9:54 PM
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    Turned out the storm last week damaged our apple tree so a couple of branches had to come in and I now have about 5kg of nearly ripe apples. I think I will make them into jelly as they are quite small and the majority is still on the tree!

    Had to move them into the pantry as the baby loves apples and was getting cross everytime she saw them.

    I am yet to solve my jar issue, I have asked locally but everyone appears to be out of jars!

    Sadly no blaeberries for us this year unless we find a better spot, the tried and trusted spots were stripped so violently last year that the bushes have not yet recovered and there are barely any berries on them.

    We are having some building work done on the house and I will need to go and chase our builders as they appear to have vanished and we really need them to finish the last couple of agreed jobs before I can move onto the next project.

    Will book in our chimney to be swept early this year in case it is another early winter as if we burn a fire in the afternoon it is so much easier to keep the heating off longer.
    • betterlife
    • By betterlife 5th Aug 18, 10:42 PM
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    Hi guys, I have a quick question if anyone can help me please. I!!!8217;m thinking about getting a dehydrater for fruit etc, and was wondering if you can make jam with dehydrated fruit? Thank you
    One day I will live in a cabin in the woods
    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 6th Aug 18, 12:20 AM
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    Jojo, I'm also Dartmoor born & bred. Say hello to my beautiful & much-missed home for me...
    Originally posted by thriftwizard

    What part, Thrifty? And do you still have your accent, as the wretch lost his in his 20s because his now ex-wife said it made him sound thick and he'd never get a job if he kept it?

    (It does return to some extent when we're back there, but it never lasts - although I seem to pick it up quite unintentionally to the extent of a surprising number of people assuming I'm from Tavi )
    Last edited by Jojo the Tightfisted; 06-08-2018 at 12:23 AM.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • Hollyberry
    • By Hollyberry 6th Aug 18, 8:06 AM
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    Another former Dartmoor lass checking in - from Trusham way here. My husband reckons the accent returns as soon as we've passed Bristol.

    I wonder if it's the twice weekly buses of my youth that started the desire for a plump store cupboard...
    Last edited by Hollyberry; 06-08-2018 at 8:11 AM.
    • dND
    • By dND 6th Aug 18, 8:34 AM
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    Hi guys, I have a quick question if anyone can help me please. I!!!8217;m thinking about getting a dehydrater for fruit etc, and was wondering if you can make jam with dehydrated fruit? Thank you
    Originally posted by betterlife

    Hi Betterlife, I don't have a definitive answer but if you really needed to do it I would expect making a jelly would be better than jam as any skins might remain a bit leathery.


    My question would be why? Both are methods of preserving and an electric dehydrator is quite an energy intensive operation, so added to the energy required to make the jam, it would be expensive jam.


    Or do I have the wrong end of the stick (a common occurance ) and you expect to have a lot of dried fruit to use up? If this is the case, from my experience making a compote of the dried fruit to have with yoghurt or porridge is probably the best.



    I'm currently drying cherry tomatoes - they get added to stews in the slow cooker over winter or eaten as a rather chewy snack if not quite dry enough to store.

    • betterlife
    • By betterlife 6th Aug 18, 9:02 AM
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    Hi dND, thank you for your reply. I was wondering mainly for elderberries as there is so many around at the moment and as they are full of pectin I wondered about dehydrating them to help with future jam or jelly making with fruit which lacks enough pectin. Ive since read that dehydrated berries can be easily made into a powder so this may be better to add than dried fruit. From the reviews Ive read on the dehydrator Ive purchased is costs very little to run. Hopefully it will be another good way for me to preserve homegrown and foraged stuff.
    One day I will live in a cabin in the woods
    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 6th Aug 18, 11:37 AM
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    Another pound of Blackberries picked, washed and tipped into the tray to open freeze. Got me thinking - bog standard organic blackberries are twenty quid a kilo. These are basically ignored until either they have fruit or they're threatening to turn the house into something more akin to Rapunzel's Castle after a certain cloven footed gentleman is reputed to pee over them.



    If I had the brass neck inclination to do so, I could theoretically punt them out at a nearby food market that allows such trade and is frequented by impossibly slender, fresh faced 20 somethings who avoid gluten, all animal products, plastics...etc, etc.

    I could theoretically (and quite honestly) declare that they are

    Organic
    Vegan
    Cruelty Free
    Peat Free
    Only pollinated by willing bees, mostly of the following types;
    - Buff tailed Bumblebees
    - White tailed Bumblebees
    - Free Range European Honey Bees
    - Patchwork Leaf Cutter Bees
    - Wild Red Mason Bees
    (no kidnapping and forcing innocent bees to pollinate them/stealing their honey and pollen - what they choose to take, they keep)
    No pest control, other than that willingly provided by
    - European Wasps
    - Wild Ladybirds
    - Wild Birds
    - Many, many, many friendly (as long as you're many thousands of times bigger than them) eight legged creatures
    Grown absolutely without recourse to mains water (or even harvested rainwater, unless you count the finest specimen growing happily out of the top of the water butt)
    And have zero air miles, zero sea miles and about 2 land miles by public transport on a fully electric bus route whilst not being taken from the wild or anywhere remotely near an incontinent canine/supernatural being .

    That's got to be worth more than a score, hasn't it?


    (I miss the wholefoods shop that used to be a quarter of a mile down the next street - they loved me and happily took everything I grew that I couldn't eat and couldn't freeze because I didn't have a freezer at the time - I know they sold them at a good price, as they let me take whatever I wanted in payment, washing powder, washing up liquid, chocolate oat milk, large bags of pulses - and the day I came in with courgette flowers, rose petals and nasturtiums at 9am, they presented me with the most expensive bottle of lavender essential oil in the shop. With the sage growing so well, I could also have hand made smudging sticks and they would have sold them, too)


    Ah, well. I shall just remind myself how much the ones in the freezer would have cost from anywhere other than my weedpatch when I'm turning them into jammy loveliness.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 6th Aug 18, 12:34 PM
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    That sounds like the perfect relationship you had with the whole food shop, Jojo, however, I suspect if anyone suggested a similar arrangement nowadays then Elf and Safety would stick their oar in. Those were the days!
    One life - your life - live it!


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    • grandma247
    • By grandma247 6th Aug 18, 1:28 PM
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    you can make jams with dehydrated fruit. fig jam is yumm. you can buy a cheap coffee grinder just for fruit and veg powders. You can also make a pectin liquid from fruits with high pectin in them.
    • Living proof
    • By Living proof 6th Aug 18, 7:31 PM
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    Living proof
    Hi guys, I have a quick question if anyone can help me please. I!!!8217;m thinking about getting a dehydrater for fruit etc, and was wondering if you can make jam with dehydrated fruit? Thank you
    Originally posted by betterlife
    If you google jam from dehydrated fruit quite a selection of sites will come up and there are some on Youtube. So the answer is yes!
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 6th Aug 18, 9:11 PM
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    Ooh. Fig jam. I know of a huge old fig tree that fruits massively, but its right in a busy city centre, and the fruits must be pretty poisonous from the petrol fumes. Plus, erm, its in a churchyard .... but still, fig jam. Yum.
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    • Living proof
    • By Living proof 7th Aug 18, 12:44 AM
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    Ooh. Fig jam. I know of a huge old fig tree that fruits massively, but its right in a busy city centre, and the fruits must be pretty poisonous from the petrol fumes. Plus, erm, its in a churchyard .... but still, fig jam. Yum.
    Originally posted by Karmacat

    A few years ago I read of a PhD thesis based on checking the results of wild fruit by the roadside and the amount of chemicals and nasties retained when they were processed as opposed to the same crops grown in a field. There was no discernible difference, much to general disbelief. I will try and find it again and link it in, but I think as long as you wash the fruit or whatever well, maybe the cooking or freezing process negates the pollution.
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    • dND
    • By dND 7th Aug 18, 7:44 AM
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    Thank you betterlife, grandma247 and Livingproof - I love learning something new. I still don't think I'd invest the time and energy into dehydrating fruit and then making it into jam but I really love the idea of the dried elderberries ground and used to set jam
    Betterlife, from my experience of having a dehydrator, things take longer than the book says, so it is always a longer process than you expect. Add to that, you generally end up drying in summer. In my case, this year that has meant running it through some of the hot weather and my kitchen went up from a just about bearable 27C to a rather uncomfortable 29+C just from the heat from the dehydrator.


    All that said, it's something that is on my list to come back to the UK with me - it does have its place and making fruit jerky is one of the things I love.

    The jerky generally doesn't get stored as it doesn't hang around long enough. If you want to make that, you'll need a dehydrator that either has solid trays, or can be made solid without disrupting the airflow, and preferably level/flat trays. My trays slope very slightly which means the fruit puree levels out thicker on one edge to the other. This results in one edge of the dried puree having to be dried to a crisp in order to just about dry the other end.

    It's great for drying your own herbs too.

    • Cheapskate
    • By Cheapskate 7th Aug 18, 8:32 AM
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    Don't know which thread on OS it was, but someone recommended the Simpler Life thread, which I'm working my way through - very fabulous, and I've got loads of notes to follow up!!

    We have lots of things dumped stored at DH's work from when we had building work done, that the kids and I will finish sorting this week. Going to be really ruthless - after all, if we've not missed it in nearly 2 years, do we need it?! Littlies will be allowed to rescue a few toys each, on the understanding that an equal number of things currently at home will have to go - they're good at understanding about donating to those with less stuff than us. Unfortunately, some of the stuff down there is from my mum's home, when we emptied it last summer. My sister in America was supposed to look through as she'd asked for certain things, but when she visited the other month she didn't do it - do I try and shoehorn the stuff into my attic, ask brother to add to stuff he's kept, and which is in storage, or just harden my heart and get rid?

    Have asked on freecycle and a local page re clean wood for my stove, and, surprisingly, have had offers - including an entire tree stump that's probably bigger and heavier than me! Will follow up the most promising and chop up where necessary, at the very least there will be kindling = lovely peeps!

    We'll going brambling this aft and tomorrow, to avoid the rain due later in the week, and make some jam, freeze a load, and make a couple of crumbles with my apples.

    I worked for a friend last weekend, at a local food festival, and she brought round my wages last night - first money I've earned in more than 5 years, and it felt so nice - even better, it was in coin of the realm, so ready to add to my house stash! She also had us take home as much as we liked of her produce at the end (cooked food), otherwise it had to be chucked, although she would have had very little waste. So we've been having her lovely Malaysian curries for the last couple of days - gorgeous!

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    • Living proof
    • By Living proof 7th Aug 18, 8:39 AM
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    This is the link which is dated 2013 so unless anyone knows differently....

    https://www.bangor.ac.uk/news/university/student-project-shows-it-is-safe-to-eat-roadside-blackberries-15772
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    • Living proof
    • By Living proof 7th Aug 18, 8:57 AM
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    from my experience of having a dehydrator, things take longer than the book says, so it is always a longer process than you expect. Add to that, you generally end up drying in summer. In my case, this year that has meant running it through some of the hot weather and my kitchen went up from a just about bearable 27C to a rather uncomfortable 29+C just from the heat from the dehydrator.
    Originally posted by dND
    I soon realised that the heat and condensation caused by drying produce is pretty unbearable, so when I finally bought my lovely shed I had electricity and stable doors put in so that I can dry even if I am out. This year I am trying to spiralise courgetti and then freeze for winter use in 'spag bog'. One real bonus is that I can do masses at once and only have to clean the spiraliser once too. I have solar panels which means as long as the sun is shining (or the day has some brightness in it) my electricity is free so by growing my own and then drying it's a win/win situation. Today I am going to pick up some apples sourced from Freecycle and I will be drying them before the rain at the weekend. I still haven't found decent sized blackberries but am still on the look-out....
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 7th Aug 18, 9:40 AM
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    This is the link which is dated 2013 so unless anyone knows differently....

    https://www.bangor.ac.uk/news/university/student-project-shows-it-is-safe-to-eat-roadside-blackberries-15772
    Originally posted by Living proof

    Thank you so much for this! I've been wandering about within my computer trying to find the pic, or even a pic on google earth, but I can't. I suppose given the choice I'd rather use fruit *away* from the road, in the same way that if I had the money for everyday expenses I'd buy organic everything, but its good to know that its such a great potential resource.
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