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    • redfox
    • By redfox 16th Jun 16, 8:27 PM
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    Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread
    • #1
    • 16th Jun 16, 8:27 PM
    Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread 16th Jun 16 at 8:27 PM
    Welcome to a new long lasting Elite 11+ glitch and chat thread.

    Please see post number 2 for all the relevant information on the thread. Savvybuyer's excellent lists are in the subsequent posts.

    It's a great group and community so enjoy!
    Last edited by redfox; 16-06-2016 at 9:38 PM.
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    • Lima-India
    • By Lima-India 19th May 17, 11:45 AM
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    Lima-India
    Here's my Right Gaurd shop v S. Thought it may be useful for the fillers.

    9 items (8 different) on your receipt qualify for comparison
    A v S
    1x Right Guard Total 5 Defence Fresh 48H Anti-Perspirant Deodorant (250ml) 2.00 1.50
    0.1x ASDA Grower's Selection Loose Red Onion (order by number of onions or select kg) (per kg) 0.08 0.08
    1x Right Guard Total Defence 5 Cool 48H Anti-Perspirant Deodorant (250ml) 2.00 1.50
    1x Right Guard Total 5 Defence Clean 48H Anti-Perspirant Deodorant (250ml) 2.00 1.50
    1x Taylors of Harrogate Yorkshire Tea Bedtime Brew Tea Bags (100g) 2.00 N/A
    1x Right Guard Total 5 Defence Original 48H Anti-Perspirant Deodorant (250ml) 2.00 1.50
    0.15x ASDA Grower's Selection Loose Banana (order by number of bananas or select kg) (per kg) 0.10 N/A
    0.12x ASDA Grower's Selection Loose Onion (order by number of onions or select kg) (per kg) 0.09 0.09
    1x Cadbury Curly Wurly Bar (26g) 0.35 0.25
    2x Right Guard Total 5 Defence Sport 48H Anti-Perspirant Deodorant (250ml) 4.00 3.00
    Comparison total (compared products only) 12.52 9.42

    Cost 10.62 (had 8.74 APG from Sharpies) - returned an APG 4.05, 2 from Shopmium for teabags.
    Last edited by Lima-India; 19-05-2017 at 1:13 PM.
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 19th May 17, 11:49 AM
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    LEJC
    Morning all!
    Just parked outside A, just going in with "several" page between 10 and 20 so fingers crossed!
    Anyone got results of a test shop this morning?

    ChelseaFred!!!128522;
    Originally posted by ChelseaFred
    Fred...you are one of thousands of customers through their store today....front them out.
    What gives them he right to challenge your shopping habits over any other customers....

    They enticed you with a good promotion which you took advantage of stocking up for personal consumption over the next few months

    they offered the service of an apg checker....you checked and they allowed you to print an apg

    They are now obliged to allow you to spend it or show you explicitly in the APG terms where it says you cant.
    frugal October...41.82 of 40 food shopping spend for the 2 of us!

    2017 toiletries challenge 179 out 145 in ...18.64 spend
    • aau1
    • By aau1 19th May 17, 12:10 PM
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    aau1
    Fred...you are one of thousands of customers through their store today....front them out.
    What gives them he right to challenge your shopping habits over any other customers....

    They enticed you with a good promotion which you took advantage of stocking up for personal consumption over the next few months

    they offered the service of an apg checker....you checked and they allowed you to print an apg

    They are now obliged to allow you to spend it or show you explicitly in the APG terms where it says you cant.
    Originally posted by LEJC
    You say that as though it's not in the T&Cs:

    We may withhold or refuse payment and/or withdraw or suspend the Asda Price Guarantee (or any part of it) at any time without notice where we suspect fraud or abuse, or where vouchers have been incorrectly calculated. The Asda Price Guarantee is limited to one claim per comparison.
    by Point 23 in the T&Cs
    https://www.asdapriceguarantee.co.uk/terms.html
    Last edited by aau1; 19-05-2017 at 12:12 PM.
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is the word a moorhen
    • mrsmac10
    • By mrsmac10 19th May 17, 12:17 PM
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    mrsmac10
    Afternoon


    I am keeping mine for Blackpool Asda


    I only have two around ten pounds and happy with the others I still think that the right guard is on my list for tomorrow
    • Enterprise 1701C
    • By Enterprise 1701C 19th May 17, 12:22 PM
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    Enterprise 1701C
    MORNING ALL


    bit delayed as had to read a book 'lord of the flies' maybe its just not captivating enough, I've just finished it so for that I am relieved also just written my book review for it but think maybe I have been too harsh. I was recommended it as its a classic which won a nobel prize......... I was just after anyone elses' take on it x
    Originally posted by sarahskint
    I must have read it when i was about 10 and loved it then,not sure what I would think of it now though! I think it was the idea of beating the odds, ok they went back to basics, but they survived.



    Decisions tomorrow.

    A Jumble Sale

    Pity they died out when Car Boots started

    or the opening of a B&M store

    or both

    so easily pleased
    Originally posted by Snap-ant
    Both, definitely. I used to love Jumble sales, not been one around here for ages.

    I have discovered something today, I have spent ages looking for a comfy pair of trainers but very few have decent arches in them. Went down T, tried theirs on and they are WONDERFUL. They have the highest arch on them of any of the trainers I have had or tried on recently. I would even pay more than my normal 10 - 15 for them
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 19th May 17, 12:24 PM
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    LEJC
    I take your point aau....however what is the purpose of a promotion if it is not to generate additional sales of a product....and when a product is on offer or promotion that is an ideal time to stock up....no fraud or abuse intended....which is why in one of my other posts I referred to "personal consumption"

    To try to use the umbrella term of "abuse" might fly in the face of the implication of a promotion or offer....

    To my knowledge it's A that set the perimeters of how an APG is calculated,not me so again if they want to use inconsistent data then they run the risk of upsetting many many customers in refusing to accept APG's
    Its not just glitch shoppers who use the APG system....many other shoppers do to and whilst they may wish to target glitch shoppers they face upsetting a huge amount of genuine shoppers in the process.
    again just my thoughts and not meant to challenge you or the terms and conditions
    Last edited by LEJC; 19-05-2017 at 12:35 PM.
    frugal October...41.82 of 40 food shopping spend for the 2 of us!

    2017 toiletries challenge 179 out 145 in ...18.64 spend
    • Anon
    • By Anon 19th May 17, 12:33 PM
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    Anon
    WARNING this is what our friendly young sa said to us this morning.
    A couple of weeks ago she said they had a meeting about apgs, she came away seething but didn't tell us why.
    This morning she shows us the folder they have under the till A4 size with the dos and donts in it.
    there was a sheet titled APG that apparently has been circulated to all stores.
    Adsa is aware with the 342 promotion that apgs are being used, it stated the sa are within there right to refuse them on this promotion.
    I only skim read this as other staff around but I think that's the gist of it
    Our sa said shes not bothered, and she thinks its great what we do but she hasn't got the time to do herself, she hasn't even got a printer!!
    As has previously been stated may be wise to keep under 10 and possisbly use ss
    She also said beware only using 10 or under apgs a month (which we know) All staff have been briefed she said nationwide
    Originally posted by HILLBERN
    Do they mean refuse to accept an APG towards a shop where you are buying promotional items, or refuse an APG where the receipt includes a promo? Not that it matters I suppose, either would be an inconvenience.

    It seems using APGs on SS can draw less attention to you (usually - when the voucher and receipts scan correctly). If it doesn't (and depending on what is on the receipt ), I will pay cash/CC rather than ask them to process it and draw attention to myself.

    It is best trying not to make a big deal about it and avoid having discussions with staff/management about it that would draw further attention - our shopping habits are still likely in the minority (more so since they don't exactly draw attention to APG instore any more, so are not really encouraging muggles to use it).

    Ultimately, with glitches, we know we are gaming their system (even with targeted shops, we probably are), so we are not really in a position to complain if they try to make our game more difficult or enforce any of their published T&Cs (10 vouchers/100 max per month per household etc). There is always another store to go to .

    Much as it is helpful, I sometimes think that we risk drawing too much attention to ourselves by listing our results so openly and sometimes explaining in too much detail about how a glitch is working (I am guilty of this too, so I am not having a go ) - we know the newspapers (and other deal websites) sometimes pick up on these sorts of things and then we will face the backlash. Arguably, if they cut the APG most muggle customers would not even be aware, as only mainly Elite and like-minded friends would be affected.

    Anon
    Last edited by Anon; 19-05-2017 at 12:38 PM.
    • sarahskint
    • By sarahskint 19th May 17, 12:40 PM
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    all asda had to do was put the offer to run both instore and online and have it actually work........
    • fuzzgun19
    • By fuzzgun19 19th May 17, 12:41 PM
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    fuzzgun19
    I must have read it when i was about 10 and loved it then,not sure what I would think of it now though! I think it was the idea of beating the odds, ok they went back to basics, but they survived.



    Both, definitely. I used to love Jumble sales, not been one around here for ages.

    I have discovered something today, I have spent ages looking for a comfy pair of trainers but very few have decent arches in them. Went down T, tried theirs on and they are WONDERFUL. They have the highest arch on them of any of the trainers I have had or tried on recently. I would even pay more than my normal 10 - 15 for them
    Originally posted by Enterprise 1701C
    Do you know if they sell these online? I was looking for some too, but don't have a large T unless I make a special trip.
    I Hate Jobsworths!!!
    • Anon
    • By Anon 19th May 17, 12:47 PM
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    Anon
    all A had to do was put the offer to run both instore and online and have it actually work........
    Originally posted by sarahskint
    Very good point - it is only the fact that it is not online that has enabled this glitch.

    Anon
    • aau1
    • By aau1 19th May 17, 12:48 PM
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    aau1
    I take your point aau....however what is the purpose of a promotion if it is not to generate additional sales of a product....and when a product is on offer or promotion that is an ideal time to stock up....no fraud or abuse intended....which is why in one of my other posts I referred to "personal consumption"

    To try to use the umbrella term of "abuse" might fly in the face of the implication of a promotion or offer....

    To my knowledge it's A that set the perimeters of how an APG is calculated,not me so again if they want to use inconsistent data then they run the risk of upsetting many many customers in refusing to accept APG's
    Its not just glitch shoppers who use the APG system....many other shoppers do to and whilst they may wish to target glitch shoppers they face upsetting a huge amount of genuine shoppers in the process.
    again just my thoughts and not meant to challenge you or the terms and conditions
    Originally posted by LEJC
    They don't need to use the umbrella term of abuse. They can (rightly) use the umbrella term of them being incorrectly calculated
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is the word a moorhen
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 19th May 17, 12:57 PM
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    LEJC
    But my point is...I have no control over how they set the perimeters when calculating an APG...
    BUT I would expect them to do it in a correct and diligent way.

    There are only so many times you can use the excuse of "we wrongly calculated"...before it wears thin...at that point it should be we need to fix the calculation.
    The onus is on them to fix forward rather than repeatedly refuse.

    Without making this too personal aau..I believe you do something with numbers and have exams to prove your capabilities....so you may appreciate what good is a bad accountant.
    A computer system is only as good as it's programmer
    Last edited by LEJC; 19-05-2017 at 12:59 PM.
    frugal October...41.82 of 40 food shopping spend for the 2 of us!

    2017 toiletries challenge 179 out 145 in ...18.64 spend
    • Enterprise 1701C
    • By Enterprise 1701C 19th May 17, 12:59 PM
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    Enterprise 1701C
    Do you know if they sell these online? I was looking for some too, but don't have a large T unless I make a special trip.
    Originally posted by fuzzgun19
    https://www.tesco.com/direct/search-results/results.page?catId=4294967294&searchquery=Ladies+t rainers&SrchId=4294967294

    I got the neon coral ones, they are not actually lace up and the tongue is not separate. Most of the trainers they have looked to have a good arch in them but I only tried on those ones and the bubble mesh ones.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
    • aau1
    • By aau1 19th May 17, 1:02 PM
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    aau1
    But my point is...I have no control over how they set the perimeters when calculating an APG...
    BUT I would expect them to do it in a correct and diligent way.

    There are only so many times you can use the excuse of "we wrongly calculated"...before it wears thin...at that point it should be we need to fix the calculation.
    The onus is on them to fix forward rather than repeatedly refuse.

    Without making this too personal aau..I believe you do something with numbers and have exams to prove your capabilities....so you may appreciate what good is a bad accountant.
    A computer system is only as good as it's programmer
    Originally posted by LEJC
    I agree with everything you are saying

    My point is to be mindful of the fact that if you ask them to show you a point in the T&Cs they may very well just show you that exact point
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is the word a moorhen
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 19th May 17, 1:07 PM
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    LEJC
    To which they will get the response I've given you....I still believe that the terms and conditions are not explicit.....

    The term and condition that you originally quoted actually has so many inconsistencies in I doubt it would stand up if challenged correctly...

    even the term...we may rather than we will....is totally up for discussion but thats for another day I feel,as the sun is shining and I want to go out and play!

    Always happy to challenge,I am on a good day!
    Last edited by LEJC; 19-05-2017 at 1:16 PM.
    frugal October...41.82 of 40 food shopping spend for the 2 of us!

    2017 toiletries challenge 179 out 145 in ...18.64 spend
    • ChelseaFred
    • By ChelseaFred 19th May 17, 1:07 PM
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    ChelseaFred
    Fred...you are one of thousands of customers through their store today....front them out.
    What gives them he right to challenge your shopping habits over any other customers....

    They enticed you with a good promotion which you took advantage of stocking up for personal consumption over the next few months

    they offered the service of an apg checker....you checked and they allowed you to print an apg

    They are now obliged to allow you to spend it or show you explicitly in the APG terms where it says you cant.
    Originally posted by LEJC
    Thanks LEJC, pats accepted, no problem inc one for 21. 8 page between 13 & 19 too, very nice sa! Some more hopefully generated too......
    On the other hand they wouldn't take the Walkers vouchers as "there have been a lot of forgeries". I pointed out the numbers were different but no joy. Not a problem as I have a 'few' and can use at T or W.
    Drizzling with rain but have seen 4 separate middle aged men in shorts and t shirts, why?
    Have a great day everyone, will post results later.

    ChelseaFred!!!128523;
    • izzeyb
    • By izzeyb 19th May 17, 1:10 PM
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    izzeyb
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    • aau1
    • By aau1 19th May 17, 1:10 PM
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    aau1
    Thanks LEJC, pats accepted, no problem inc one for 21. 8 page between 13 & 19 too, very nice sa! Some more hopefully generated too......
    On the other hand they wouldn't take the Walkers vouchers as "there have been a lot of forgeries". I pointed out the numbers were different but no joy. Not a problem as I have a 'few' and can use at T or W.
    Drizzling with rain but have seen 4 separate middle aged men in shorts and t shirts, why?
    Have a great day everyone, will post results later.

    ChelseaFred!!!128523;
    Originally posted by ChelseaFred
    I would get onto HO with a complaint

    They are selling the promo packs so they should honour them. Particularly because their website says they will take internet coupons
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is the word a moorhen
    • izzeyb
    • By izzeyb 19th May 17, 1:14 PM
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    izzeyb
    Thanks LEJC, pats accepted, no problem inc one for 21. 8 page between 13 & 19 too, very nice sa! Some more hopefully generated too......
    On the other hand they wouldn't take the Walkers vouchers as "there have been a lot of forgeries". I pointed out the numbers were different but no joy. Not a problem as I have a 'few' and can use at T or W.
    Drizzling with rain but have seen 4 separate middle aged men in shorts and t shirts, why?
    Have a great day everyone, will post results later.

    ChelseaFred!!!128523;
    Originally posted by ChelseaFred

    I have just tried checking a long womble and my own JF shop. APG saying not enough items, hope system is just playing up
    • HILLBERN
    • By HILLBERN 19th May 17, 1:16 PM
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    HILLBERN
    oh dear

    we done 2 shops this morning for items that I actually wanted.
    shop 1 had 6 x tresseme shampoo and conditioner, wands, wham,eggs,prawn crackers, + 2 morw 10p sweets

    shop 2 had 6x john frieda 3 x lynx wands, whams, + couple of 10p sweets.
    system saying not enough items

    we had 15 different items so what has happened?
    we did pay cash as well as an apg.

    so is it because we would have generated another apg or have they counted all the 342 items as 1

    I wasn't locked in and is was incognito when checking apg, shops done just before 10 this morning

    any ideas.
    Last edited by HILLBERN; 19-05-2017 at 1:37 PM.
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