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    mjsingh
    Infrared heating panel is no good
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    • 28th Nov 14, 12:56 PM
    Infrared heating panel is no good 28th Nov 14 at 12:56 PM
    I looked for some real experiences of infrared heating. This is the best place to be.

    I bought a FAR infrared heating panel to try out. Has someone else had experience of them? It is advertised to say the best available but I am 100% dissatisfied.

    The infrared panel is not living up to the promise. May I be entitled to a refund? The company say no because I had it for 2 weeks.

    It does not warm enough. If I stood close it is ok but further than 1-2 meter then there is no heat and the room is cold.

    The company said I must attach the infrared panel up high on the wall. This is not good because it is not nice looking for my room. It will look terrible! I don't really believe that will make more heat. They said I must then have two more panels. The room is 4 meters x 3.5 meters.

    I don't believe it is costing less money than the electric heaters and when I must have two more panels it will be costing much much more money.

    I don't use the infrared panel now. Should I lawfully have a refund?
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    • sickofusernamez
    • By sickofusernamez 9th Feb 18, 12:43 PM
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    sickofusernamez
    That's misleading
    This is true if both heaters had the same power consumption but if that was the case then you have oversized your infrared heater by a mile. For example, I would never use a 2.5kw infrared heater to heat the same size room as a 2.5kw electric convector heater for fear of frying. I could heat a 500 + sq.ft room with that size infrared heater.

    If infrared heaters are providing "some savings", then something is seriously wrong. If we're talking about electric convector heaters, there sThere should be a drop of anywhere from 40% to 70% in power consumption with infrared heating.



    An infrared heater has exactly the same efficiency as the cheapest electric convector heater, i.e. 100% of the electricty you pay for is turned into heat.
    Most of the heat is given out as radiant heat rather than conductive heat, which could give some savings because you shoudl feel the benefit of the warmth on your skin without the heater having to heat up all the air inbetween you and the heater (like a "normal" heater). There have been many threads discussing the merist (or otherwise) of infra-red heating.

    My guess is that the company will have been clever enough not to make any enforceable promises in writing, so you may have to put this down to experience.
    Originally posted by thenudeone
    • sickofusernamez
    • By sickofusernamez 9th Feb 18, 12:53 PM
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    sickofusernamez
    Not likely
    1. For a 900 Watt infrared heater to heat a 36m2 room you would need your house to be built to passive house standards and the room in question located away from the gable ends. Otherwise, that company is dreaming.

    2. If your room is 4m x 3.5m, with a standard ceiling height and is insulated, then a good quality 900 watt infrared heater is more than enough to heat your room. Typically, you should be good for 20m2 with that size heater but other factors need to be taken into account. If it's a s*** quality heater, then forget about it.

    3. These types of infrared heaters are designed to be fitted either on the wall or ceiling. Best practice is on the ceiling in the centre of the room. If not, then it needs to be half way up a wall so that the heat is unobstructed by furniture etc. If it's hung on a wall then the performance drops a bit as opposed to being on the ceiling.

    4. It's pointless coming into a cold room and turning on the heater then waiting for the room to warm up. That's a poor way to use infrared heaters. When first using them, they should be turned on until the room is very warm. After that they should be controlled using a thermostat and timer set up, then left alone to cycle on/off. If they're ever turned off for days at a time and the cold sets in, then this needs to be repeated.


    5. Infrared heaters need to be sized correctly for each and every room. Then installed and used according to manufacturers instructions otherwise you're going to be let down either by undersizing or oversizing.

    6. It's possible that the heating element is faulty. This can be checked with an infrared thermometer or similar to the face of the panel. Temperature should be somewhere around 90 degrees give or take.


    Thank you.

    Maybe but I am reading the website. It is stating that FAR infrared heating panels make heat for a 36 meter square room. My room is smaller.

    The website is stating in writing far less power cost than electric heaters. I tested the FAR infrared heating panel. It is taking 900 watts and it is not warm 1-2 meters of the heating panel. The regular heater now is taking maximum 750 watts and it is making all of the room warm.

    The company is not providing a refund. Maybe to be close to the FAR infrared heating panel is ok but this is not possible. The company say I must have more panels but the website is stating one infrared heating panel makes heat for 36 meter square room.

    1-2 meters close is ok but the room is cold. This is no good.
    Originally posted by mjsingh
    Last edited by sickofusernamez; 09-02-2018 at 1:41 PM. Reason: left something out
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 9th Feb 18, 1:39 PM
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    Cardew
    That's misleading

    This is true if both heaters had the same power consumption but if that was the case then you have oversized your infrared heater by a mile. For example, I would never use a 2.5kw infrared heater to heat the same size room as a 2.5kw electric convector heater for fear of frying. I could heat a 500 + sq.ft room with that size infrared heater.

    If infrared heaters are providing "some savings", then something is seriously wrong. If we're talking about electric convector heaters, there sThere should be a drop of anywhere from 40% to 70% in power consumption with infrared heating.
    Originally posted by sickofusernamez
    Typically, you should be good for 20m2 with that size heater but other factors need to be taken into account. If it's a s*** quality heater, then forget about it.
    It is your last two posts that are misleading.

    You are implying, indeed stating, that an IR heater produces more heat for a given consumption than other forms of electrical heating, and quite simply it doesn't.

    A 2.5kW or 900w IR heater produces EXACTLY the same amount of heat as any other form of electrical heater of a similar rating.

    'If it's a s*** quality IR heater, then forget about it'
    A poor quality IR heater(of which there are many on the market) will produce EXACTLY the same amount of heat - for the same consumption - as the finest quality IR heater on the market. It just might not last as long.
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