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    • COOLTRIKERCHICK
    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 4th Oct 14, 10:37 AM
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    Daydream fund challenge part 4
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    • 4th Oct 14, 10:37 AM
    Daydream fund challenge part 4 4th Oct 14 at 10:37 AM
    back in march 2009. this thread started, as I had daydreamed of having a smallholding for far too many years than I can remember.. since then, we are now on our 4th new thread.. and have a nice bunch of mse'rs who are at various stages of their dream... even if you ream is to have a plot of land, or a house with a nice garden.. join in, all are welcome..


    here are the links to the other 3 threads
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1544047&highlight=daydream
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    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4651793&highlight=daydream
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 10th Nov 18, 11:35 PM
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    It rained quite hard here in the morning, but we're far from flooded. The stream was running tonight, but if I can't hear the waterfall from the yard, it's not that full. The river gauge on t'internet is also saying 'normal.'

    We had interesting winds for a time this morning, with the direction at ground level being strongly from the SE and the clouds travelling west to east!

    Off to church in the morning for the one occasion in the year when I go. Hope it isn't as dire as it was last year, or this will be the last time.....
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Nov 18, 5:49 PM
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    Well...yesterday's Remembrance service was dull, despite there being a new vicar and curate. A case of old wine in new bottles..... Come to think of it, a case of wine would have improved it no end!


    At least the sun shone and the churchyard looked very picturesque.


    We returned to find that our hedgcutting guy had turned-up (at last!) but because we weren't there, he'd done some work differently from the way we'd intended. Luckily, we were able to stop him giving most of the road hedge a crew-cut, so we can still get onto a 2 or 3 year cycle with it. All the rugosa roses are back to zero again though...Aaarrrggghhh!
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • potplant
    • By potplant 13th Nov 18, 12:44 AM
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    May I join you?
    At last I'm about to start reclaiming my very overgrown garden - tree surgeons are finishing work tomorrow, so it will be less heavily shaded, and there's several days of clearing and re- fencing starting the week after. A few weeks back I read this thread from the very beginning (and took notes!), then hesitated because I'm not very used to posting, but would love advice and views since you seem (a) very knowledgeable and (b) kind, civilised and entertaining!

    So here goes. Its a London garden, faces southeast, heavy clay soil, about 80 feet long; there's quite a bit of shade from surrounding trees, but as from tomorrow I hope there will be a lot less from my neighbour's Leylandii which is the worst offender. (He's very happy it's being cut back, it was there when he moved in.)

    Over the years the garden's had various phases including a playground with sandpit, then climbing frame etc, then trampoline; then it declined ( we were abroad, then I got injured and couldn't garden for a long time, and it started becoming a wilderness). Now the onetime trampoliniste is in her 20s and we (husband and me) are both retired, it's time for a new plan. Which in my mind involves a kind of allotment, maybe a raised bed, at the far end of the garden, where I've always grown soft fruit, more so before it became too shaded; some edible plants mixed in with purely ornamental ones nearer the house where things like tomatos and courgettes will get a bit more sun; all kinds of favourite plants which I already have in pots or which have survived years of neglect in situ, plus a long list of others which I want to replace or try for the first time. ( I have quite a few seeds collected in readiness, and am reasonably good at cuttings and dividing plants.) And some nice places to sit. Husband is a bit disabled and can't really do gardening but it would be good if he can sit and enjoy being there.

    So - in 2 weeks' time I should have not a blank slate, but at least a greatly cleared one, and as I start in on it I would really appreciate advice (and warnings, and indeed random thoughts from experienced gardeners). Eg: I'll see tomorrow (once there is less Leylandii skulking overhead) how shaded it will be where I'm hoping to put a veg. bed. Assuming it's semi- shade, will that be ok to grow leafy veg like perpetual spinach, chard, parsley? And autumn-fruiting raspberries, which used to do well there, and blackberries?
    Please brace yourselves for more questions as this gets under way!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Nov 18, 7:17 PM
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    Hi potplant...what a great name! Good to have you on-board.

    The garden you describe is pretty close to what we had ten years ago: the aspect is similar and we were on yukky alkaline clay. There were large trees and some surrounding houses stealing part of the sunshine. It was fine for everything, except lime haters and evening barbecues, as the sun left the back of the house early. I poked a small patio in on the side to catch the sunsets.

    All the plants you mention will do fine in semi shade. We used to get gooseberries and blackcurrants too, till the desire to propagate more ornamentals for sale finally put paid to any gardening with edibles.

    Yes, we're a civilised lot here. A few of us can be a little combative at times on other boards at MSE, but we leave all that at the door when we put on our wellies! Sometimes people go months without posting, but we don't mind that either, or what sort of garden anyone has...or even if they have one at all. After all, everyone's a potential gardener, aren't they?

    Lovely day down yer in sunny Deb'n today, so the final tweaks to the drains happened and that's all done & dusted. Also, had a walk round the hedges with DW to plan our attack this winter, as we seem to think we can carry on taming the road hedge in addition to building paths. I think the weather will probably have the last word!
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • alfie 1
    • By alfie 1 13th Nov 18, 8:07 PM
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    evening all..... including potplant


    the only POSSIBLY usefull thing I can add potplant is ... don't forget the sun is much lower at this time of year so maybe you will get more sun than you think ? absolutely no idea how to work out HOW much more tho
    im one of those "planters" that basically if ive borrowed / nicked the seeds OR scrounged plants that peeps were chucking OR got any of above from the bargain bucket .....it grows in my garden


    im ALF , the resident animog loving, accident prone , bargain loving one ...
    the others all know what they are talking about...
    • potplant
    • By potplant 13th Nov 18, 10:53 PM
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    Thank you for the welcome! Dave, I did grow a few gooseberry bushes before (Whinhams Industry and Leveller - I liked the names!) and I might try again if they can manage a bit of shade - there are probably better varieties, if less poetically named. The tree surgeons took a good big chunk of Leylandii off, and after that a truly Biblical-looking ray of sun appeared and lit up the undergrowth and ivy and decrepit trampoline in the space where I 'm imagining a raised bed will go. Which seems a good omen practically as well as metaphorically. Alfie, I've followed your animal stories and I'm looking forward to St Bernard stories, we have no pets now (only lots of garden birds, squirrels, foxes) so I enjoy all of your animals.
    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 14th Nov 18, 8:33 AM
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    Hiya Potplant
    Im in the dog house with DH after he spent Sunday clearing the conservatory after me moaning about the mess, it cheeses me off that they use a glass box to dump their mess, but then i've turned it into a greenhouse as I went off on one and decide we needed a backdrop for my tree ferns so started a living wall im keeping it cheaper with mixed ferns, ajuga and japanese forest grass.But he wandered off muttering this "This isn't bloody Chelsea"
    Ironically everything im doing is making things lower maintenance going forward, he needs to stop being a miser he can't take it with him
    Procrastinating on going to work started the big moves in the garden Centre to make room for the cut trees. Boss keeps threatening each year this will be the last year for cut trees, They are used for footfall and hard work for such little profit, I already ache with just the idea.
    Better woMAN up and get on with it
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    • potplant
    • By potplant 14th Nov 18, 5:56 PM
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    I have just googled Japanese forest grass, which I'd never come across, and now it's added it to my long list of plants I want. (I thought my garden was quite big enough, but I'm starting to have doubts). A living wall and tree ferns sound wonderful.
    Does anyone have recommendations for a cultivated blackberry which would be happy in clay and some shade?
    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 14th Nov 18, 6:32 PM
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    Loch Ness is a good thornless cropper but you will want to lighten the soil with some compost and mulch or the easy version a topsoil top up
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 14th Nov 18, 6:39 PM
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    On the edge of the wild garden copse I grow 'Chester,' mainly because the original plant was only 2 in Morrisons, but it's also a huge thing and knows how to fight its corner! Sadly, sometimes the sheep have eaten it, but we had a good crop this year.


    We also grow Loch Maree, which is pretty with double flowers, but a bit wimpy for us.
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 16th Nov 18, 5:36 PM
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    Yippee, the building inspector passed the remaining drains I put in, so now we can fill-in the big holes. All the remaining bits to do are above ground and I'm leaving those to the plumber.


    Started on the road hedge this morning as it's still mild. After 90 minutes fighting my way along the top with the chain saw, I was ready to stop, but as this section's free of honeysuckle, it's proving easier than last year.
    Right now, it looks as if nothing's happened, because I've kept all the cut stuff on there, but when it's pulled away, there will only be a thin barrier left beside the road. Can't pile it up in the field, as the sheep will get among it and they'll have bits trailing behind them. No bonfiring wind in sight, unfortunately.


    Sam's had another op on his elbow and is now plaster free, but he has another op coming up for his birth mark. Mum's not greatly delighted, as she'd just wangled a free trip to Latvia for that week! I think it would be blooming cold anyway.


    DD2 is off to India soon to meet the in-laws-to-be over there. For a kid who swore she'd never fly, she's doing rather a lot this year!

    Speaking of cold, it's due to be all change and thermal underwear after the weekend. Maybe a good thing, as we've seen a number of birds that look suspiciously like they're starting nest building. A Great Tit has also been attempting to widen the entrance to the bird box on the garden oak tree; gets in OK but has trouble getting out!
    Last edited by Davesnave; 16-11-2018 at 5:40 PM.
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • alfie 1
    • By alfie 1 17th Nov 18, 11:14 PM
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    hiya peeps..


    do you ever have one of those weeks where every step forward seems to be 2 backwards !!
    ive not been feeling well ... I shifted some REALLY heavy furniture and have hurt my hips/pelvis ? it wakes me for some obscure reason about 4am every morning and I just cannot get comfortable to get back to sleep .. cant take painkillers at night as they give me heartburn !!
    a few times ive been stopped in my tracks during the day by a cramp style pain in my ribs/back ...
    moral of the story ... don't shift furniture ON YOUR OWN !! well after ive shifted 2 desks ,5 chairs, 2 tables and a rug tomorrow


    son has a sort of "wing" here [2 beds and a bathroom , 2nd bed being his lounge ] and decided he wanted a corner sofa for a change .. saw one advertised quite local so off we went to view it [wasn't cheap] ... it was carp ! had scuffs and mends and was stacked in her garage so couldn't see it all together. woman was most indignant when we said it wasn't what we wanted .. and we noted she added to her add that she had "had time wasters " ....


    sorry ...im having a gripe ...BUT I am laughing at my gripes
    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 18th Nov 18, 3:37 PM
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    Alfie... I've given myself back ache, hip pain and sciatica raking the long grass in the garden and splitting logs. It's just one of those things. I also move furniture on my own...

    I know you and Dave had some discussion about mowers recently. I have a feeling mine has just died - sounds like the engine has seized and given that I discovered a rubber connector had become disconnected which I THINK was where the oil should have been going through, I suspect it's terminal. Of course, I'm only about 1/3 of the way through getting the grass ready for the winter AND I'd just refilled the petrol tank.

    I only have 1/4 acre, and it's not exactly lawn, but calling it grass would be stretching the truth a LOT. Mostly it's creeping buttercup, thistles and teasels, with grass and molehills in between. Very bumpy (mostly due to the moles, and to ground-out stumps that are still settling) and full of stones thanks to the moles...

    Any recommendations gratefully received. Current one is an ancient Efco with a Briggs & Stratton engine. It generally starts reasonably easily, although an electric start is tempting. Whatever I get needs to be fairly robust.

    I will send this one off to be looked at, and if I can borrow one from a neighbour in the meantime I've got a bit of time to get sorted out.
    • lucielle
    • By lucielle 18th Nov 18, 5:48 PM
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    Hi Greenbee have you thought about battery operated ones? Easy to start and no servicing apart from a blade sharpen now and then. Ego have sold very well for us and people who've purchased them have sung their praises.

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    • choille
    • By choille 18th Nov 18, 6:10 PM
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    Welcome Plantpot - great name.

    Lovely weather here for quite a few days - orange sunset - gorgeous run on the beach down the Gairloch with the evil collie wobble - who actually weed on someone's clothes that were left in a pile as they were swimming. It wasn't that warm. I just can't apologise enough sometimes sooooo I sort of turned a blind eye which is shocking & I am still feeling really guilty.

    Watch your backs when lifting stuff. I've seriously done mine in & it is not good. I am taking things much tamer & less being gung ho as I can't stand the pain - so don't go overdoing it Alfie as when you get to our age it doesn't heal the same at all at all.
    I am feeling old and slightly down as visited ex neighbour in care home and thought I wouldn't want to end up in one - although it is all very jolly with the lovely staff - it kinda left me feeling down.

    Seem to have a hectic week with stuff which I want getting through - dental, hospital etc - see there I go again with all the decrepit stuff. Evil Collie Wobble ate Mr Choille's denture so he has to have a new one made as it's in bits.

    These early dark nights leave me tired out for some reason.

    Hope the GS 's op goes well Dave - what a shame for one so young.
    • Fay
    • By Fay 18th Nov 18, 6:12 PM
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    I just dropped in to say I am on the move tomorrow and as I'm having to deal with BT and open reach I still have no phone line and therefore no broad band. I've been trying to sort it for a month. So as soon as I'm on, I'll be back.
    I hope you're all well and day dreaming. I'm ambivalent about the move but hopefully it will be ok!
    • choille
    • By choille 18th Nov 18, 6:16 PM
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    All the best with the move Fay - Hope it goes smoothly.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 18th Nov 18, 6:20 PM
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    I would agree with battery powered if it's rugged enough. There's no worrying about fuel going off or starting problems after a winter lay-off. Simply love my battery chain saw and hedge trimmer.

    Otherwise, I have a Honda, probably 1980/90s vintage and it takes anything I throw it at, but whether the newer ones are as good, I can't say. Stands to reason they can't be or no one would need to buy a new machine!
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 18th Nov 18, 6:23 PM
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    Hi Greenbee have you thought about battery operated ones? Easy to start and no servicing apart from a blade sharpen now and then. Ego have sold very well for us and people who've purchased them have sung their praises.

    L
    Originally posted by lucielle
    My mum has one, so I might have a look - I wasn't sure that it would be robust enough for the terrain. I also frequently have to do several cuts in succession as when I'm away it can get very long. When I'm cutting regularly it takes about 30-40 minutes to cut. When I've left it for ages it can take a lot longer... Mind you, the thought of not having to buy petrol again appeals (I'd like an electric car too, but at the moment range and price are an issue).

    Any advice/suggestions on how to select the correct model would be appreciated - a quick look online suggests that the prices are pretty comparable to petrol versions.

    Good luck withe the move Fay.

    Choille - I hope your naughty collie doesn't cause anymore damage for a bit
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 18th Nov 18, 6:28 PM
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    Oooh!, sudden flurry of activity.....

    Yes, all the best with the move, Fay. Start of a new chapter....might be a great novel or just a modest poem, but it's way better than an idle doodle!


    Sam's birthmark op is just a laser thing, choille. Not his first; in fact I think it's the last. He is also out of plaster now, so all looking good.


    Laughed at collie-wobble's mischief!
    Gardening is cheaper than psychotherapy.....and you get tomatoes.
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