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    • gemstars
    • By gemstars 16th Apr 14, 10:23 AM
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    Specific advice appreciated
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:23 AM
    Specific advice appreciated 16th Apr 14 at 10:23 AM
    Hi Guys!

    I know it gets frustrating when people ask for individual advice, however I have read Martin's advice here http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets

    and the sucess stories here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4766249

    and the "Newbies" sticky here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4816822

    and three threads relating to the retailer I have the issue with, including one for the specific store I was at.

    I think all of this has confused me more than when I started and could really use your help.

    Basically my situation is this;

    My partner has received a PCN from ParkingEye for parking at the Home Bargains Jarrow car park for 1hr 44 minutes. The notice says you are only allowed to park here for 1hr 30 minutes. I've never noticed any notices!!

    I really think this charge is unfair. We're regulars at this chain. I have my credit card statement which shows I spent 42 on the day in question, I haven't had a chance to look at my partners statement yet but his may well say the same. Plus it was a Sunday and quiet so it's not like we were in anyone's way. The car park is free so a charge of 85 seems ridiculous!!

    So, how do you think I should progress this? With ParkingEye or Home Bargains?

    If HB, I can't find the name of the store manager but I have found the MDs email, joe.morris@tjmorris.co.uk. Should I contact him? Can anyone help me with a template? I saw mention of them in the newbies sticky but couldn't find them.

    If parking eye, can someone advise me which template to use? Martin's I found under the Militant approach seems quite different to the ones mentioned in the forum posts so I'm not sure which would be best?

    Thanks MSErs!
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    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 16th Apr 14, 10:27 AM
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    • #2
    • 16th Apr 14, 10:27 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:27 AM

    So, how do you think I should progress this? With ParkingEye or Home Bargains?
    Originally posted by gemstars
    Both of course, make complaints to the retailer, and make an appeal to parking eye


    If parking eye, can someone advise me which template to use? Martin's I found under the Militant approach seems quite different to the ones mentioned in the forum posts so I'm not sure which would be best?

    Thanks MSErs!
    Originally posted by gemstars
    There is only one template to use, and that is in the sticky thread by coupon mad. Martin's one is ancient and we advise staying well clear of it
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member
    • gemstars
    • By gemstars 16th Apr 14, 10:43 AM
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    • #3
    • 16th Apr 14, 10:43 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:43 AM
    Thanks Stroma, I'll do that now.

    At the risk of sounding really stupid, do I just add a point 4 saying "I enclose a copy of a credit card statement which shows the car park was being used to shop in store which owns the car park"?
    • bod1467
    • By bod1467 16th Apr 14, 10:47 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:47 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:47 AM
    It can't hurt. EXCEPT ... make sure the copy is redacted to mask any info you DON'T want to show them; and make sure you word point 4 such that it doesn't identify the driver.

    (I'm assuming your partner is going to appeal as registered keeper, not you as driver).
    • gemstars
    • By gemstars 16th Apr 14, 10:58 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:58 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 10:58 AM
    Thanks bod,

    My partner is the registered keeper and was the driver. I'm just doing the leg work as he's not 'that type' and I am :-)
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:02 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:02 AM
    Thanks bod,

    My partner is the registered keeper and was the driver. I'm just doing the leg work as he's not 'that type' and I am :-)
    Originally posted by gemstars
    Make sure that any appeal DOES NOT name the driver, and no that no admissions as to the drivers identity will be made, as ParkingEye has not complied with the requirements of Keeper Liability.

    They will bluff and bluster, but they will lose at POPLA.
    • Stroma
    • By Stroma 16th Apr 14, 11:02 AM
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    • #7
    • 16th Apr 14, 11:02 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:02 AM
    Ensure that you send this via the post office with a free proof of postage, and online at whatever they offer
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member
    • gemstars
    • By gemstars 16th Apr 14, 11:08 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:08 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:08 AM
    Thanks again,

    Can someone link me to a good template letter to a store manager? I'm going through all of the success stories but haven't found one yet.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 16th Apr 14, 11:13 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:13 AM
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    • 16th Apr 14, 11:13 AM
    Thanks again,

    Can someone link me to a good template letter to a store manager? I'm going through all of the success stories but haven't found one yet.
    Originally posted by gemstars
    click on the link in post #6 of the NEWBIES thread to find suitable store and landowner complaints

    as for what martin said, its out of date for england and wales so like an MOT was valid on the day it was done, not valid now unless you were in scotland or northern ireland
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 19th Apr 14, 8:13 PM
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    Thanks again,

    Can someone link me to a good template letter to a store manager? I'm going through all of the success stories but haven't found one yet.
    Originally posted by gemstars
    Look in the 'Successful Complaints about PPCs' sticky thread, one of the stickies collated by Crabman post #2 on the forum. Lots of links to threads; also in post #3 of it I linked a template complaint or two a while back I think - it may have been Equality Act specific but will give you a flavour of the 'Mrs Angry Customer' stance to take!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • gemstars
    • By gemstars 2nd May 14, 5:44 PM
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    Hi guys!

    Just wanted to update you on my case.

    I never did find the template letters I asked about, but I did send a long ranty email to the head of Home Bargains via the email address I found on this site. I also sent a letter to the parking agency using the template mentioned above.

    I received an email reply from Home Bargains saying they would tell the parking agency to cancel the fine, and then a letter a few days later from the parking agency confirming it had been cancelled.

    So thanks for the help guys! Yay!! :-)
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 2nd May 14, 6:31 PM
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    Well done!

    Your case is now added as a link to the thread you couldn't find - it was at the top in the sticky threads in the post by Crabman...yours is #4 about Home Bargains:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4766249

    the complaint template was in post #3 of that sticky, just as advised:

    ''EXAMPLE FROM ME, POSTING ON PEPIPOO FORUM AS SCHOOLRUNMUM.
    HERE'S A COMPLAINT TEMPLATE BELOW FOR YOU TO AMEND TO SUIT:
    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=83766 SEE POST #2 AND AMEND IT FOR YOUR OWN CASE''

    Anyway you got the desired result so that's a great update!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 02-05-2014 at 6:38 PM.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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