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    • tea lover
    • By tea lover 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
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    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)
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    • 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+) 7th Feb 14 at 11:08 AM
    Welcome to the long term TTC thread! This is for people who have been TTC for a while, or know they are going to not have a straightforward experience of TTC. There is a huge range of reasons why people post here, and most of them have put a summary below so you can get your bearings.

    Everyone is welcome, and please don't be intimidated by the banter. The ladies here understand the long term heartache of this process, and also can give lots of advice and experience. It's also a great place to rant when one more facebook friend starts to complain about how wonderfully fertile she is!

    The normal TTC thread is here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=4783851 and the ladies there are lovely too.

    The first post there also gives some of the acronyms, but please don't hesitate to ask anyone here if there are some you don't understand.



    Team TTC info
    • Angeltreats TTC#1 since 08/12, NTNP for at least a year before that. 33 OH 33. Investigation so far: Scan & 21 day bloods for me, all ok. OH has low sperm count & low motility. Next step: First FS appointment 28 November & DH urology appointment 29 November
    • Babywanted TTC for 10 years, all tests clear on both me and hubby, unexplained infertility, miscarried twins April 2012
    • bigmomma051204 TTC#2 since 01/12. PCOS. One ovary due to childhood issue. Overweight, but regular 28 day cycle.
    • Chickpea. 40 TTC#2 since 09/09. Mmc Aug 2013 and m/c Dec 2013. Treatment: run out of options, hoping for a miracle.
    • codemonkey TTC#1 since Oct 2010. 34, DH 32. Investigations so far: Transvaginal ultrasound and HSG all normal, SA showed azoospermia with no vas deferens. MESA/TESA impossible. TESE ruled out due to high risk. Next step: lick our wounds and consider sperm donation/adoption routes.
    • cwtw Ttc #1 since Jan 12, me 31 OH 32. Me: PCO normal weight and symptomless except bleeding too often; some anovulatory cycles. OH normal everything. Next Step: On inositol, first fs appt Sept 13 eek.
    • Danielley TTC#1 since July 2012. Me - almost 35, OH - 34, currently under a consultant at Liverpool Womens, had initial tests (D3 & D21 bloods, external ultrasound, HSG, SA) All fine other apart from borderline abnormal creatinine level in blood so repeating test. Been prescibed 3months Clomid - 1st Cycle Oct 13. Next step: Appt with FS 18/12/13
    • Elsie37 TTC#1 since 02/12. 31. Next step: FS appointment 29 July
    • emmaj30 37. DH 43. Just gone on IVF list. Laproscopy fine and no blockage in tubes. No endo and diagnosed with Unexplained fertility. Hope to start treatment in next 2-4 months (updated Feb14)
    • Fairy Dust TTC#1 since 2006 (well NTNP for the first year). DH 38 Me 38. Unexplained infertility. All tests normal (strange how you hope that they find something wrong that they can "fix"). Failed IVF 1st cycle August 2013. Next Step Booked in for 2nd cycle Feb 2014.
    • Floaty (34) DH 38. TTC#1 since 01/2009. Unexplained IF. Had all FS tests (day 3 bloods, ov+7d bloods, internal ultrasounds, HSG, several SAs and a Lap&Dye - all look normal). Next step: FS appointment 11th March, hopefully for IVF referral.

      FrozenPenguin TTC#1 since Dec 2011. Me 31, DH 35, Me: mild PCOS,irregular cycles and irregular ovulation. Had Day 3/Day 21 tests, Ultrasound,HSG, 7 rounds of Clomid. DH: low SA in all 3 areas (count, morphology and motility)and a varicocele. Next step: Provera, Suprecur and Gonal-F to start January, ICSI planned for mid February
    • goodvibes TTC#1 since 04/12. 36 OH 38. Investigation so far. Me no problems OH low sperm count. Next step: ICSI treatment to start end of feb 14
    • isla_red TTC#1 since 05/11, 32 OH 33. I have a history of painful ovarian cysts but all scans internal and external clear and 21 day bloods okay for me. Discovered OH has a low sperm count in 2012 so removed from IUI list and transferred to ICSI list. Next step Currently awaiting reaching top of NHS ICSI waiting list, first appointment predicted circa Jan 2014
    • lisawood78 TTC # 1 since 2003, I'm 35 hubby 38. Hubby no issues. No fallopian tubes due to ectopic pregnancies caused by severe adhesions. 9 Failed IVF/ICSI/FET cycles. Next Step: Surrogacy consultation on October 4th
    • Littleme82: Me 32; DP 45. TTC since 09.2012. Blood tests show low progesterone; DP SA not great; prescribed clomid currently on 8th cycle; scans last year all ok; HSG looks fine; seeing FS to discuss next steps on 04.03.14.
      loveactually me 33, DH 43, officials started TTC from May 2013 but NTNP from last 2 years. no problems from DH. For me moderate endo which was operated in Nov/13. But very low ovarian reserve according to AMH test and FSH hormone so referred to IVF first appointment on 4 February
    • lucyloo77 TTC#1 since 07/2011. 35, OH is 41. OH has low SA/motility, me no known issues. Unsuccessful IVF/ICSI in May 2013 and August 2013.
    • MrsDavo TTC#1 (together) since 01/2011. 25, OH : 35. I have 6yr old girl, he has 4yr old girl both from different relationships. MMC April 2012. Diagnosed PCOS Dec 2012 - i ovulate on my own maybe twice a year! Male slightly low. Tried 3 cycles of Clomid in 2013. Next step: Metformin for 3 months daily, back to FS on 5/2/14.
    • onestep TTC#2 (dd 9) we've stopped actively ttc now, & are investigating adoption. Next Step Waiting to be assigned a SW
    • Part Mouse TTC#1 since 2009. 29 DH 36. PCOS, blocked right tube, no ov. Male problems as well. No response to tamoxafin. Next Step: Currently injecting Menpur to stimulate ovulation.
    • Peonie TTC #1 since 08/10. 35, DH 38. Severe endo. 1 MC 06/12. Next step: IVF short protocol in January..
    • Purcy81 TTC#1 since 09/12 aged 32 DH aged 32. 2MC (Oct 12 & Jun 13) Irregular and long cycles with late OV and short LP (managed to get it to 10 days now with AC and Vit B6). Other than this no known problems on either side. Next steps Just keep trying, both MC have been confirmed by the doctor but no medical help or even testing will be forthcoming as we can get pregnant and they only test after 3MC as having 2 is "probably just bad luck"
    • Picklekin TTC #1 since July 2012. Unexplained fertility. Tried 6 months of clomid without success. Now waiting for a referral to a new gynaecologist for a second opinion.
    • Primmer TTC#1 since 2009. 39, DH 48. Unexplained infertility. Unsuccessful IVF treatment. Considering adoption but still hoping for a miracle.
    • sadshoequeenAge 39 originally TTC #1 2009, mc may 2011, breastcancer diagnosis aug 2011, TTC again since July 2013 think ovulating but maybe randomly as one ovary, fsh levels fine. Next step: unsure
    • Sewit TTC #1 Oct 2011. Me - 35, DH 38. Unexplained Infertility. AMH 4. 1st IVF 8 eggs, 4 fertilised, 2x2dt -BFN Stepping away from TTC until Jan 2014.
    • skint_catt TTC#2. (DD aged 2). Weve been trying for 12 months & hubby is 42 & I am 36. next step: pelvic scan 24/10/13 & waiting for AF for GP to do more bloods on CD3.
    • Skaps So far have had my blood tests, OH has had his tests which have come back fine. Had an ultrasound and they think they found a polyps so am going to have a hysteroscopy to check and remove it if its there.
    • Smookle TTC for approx 18 months. Aged 27. DH 29. Had laproscopy and diagnosed with moderate Endo and adhesions. All allegedly fixed and fine but still not pregnant. Regular, short cycles, ovulating 2 out of 3 times. Failed IUI Dec/14 Next step - IVF/ICSI referral for Jan 14
    • Star02 Married in 2008 and been trying to conceive since 2009, in 2011 had tests and confirmed would need ICSI, however I was too young to qualify for NHS funding. Next Step Just received letter to have a referral as although still to young based on prior criteria they have removed the lower age limit due to the change in the age discrimination laws.
    • teaandcupcakeordeath TTC #1 since 04/2011. Me (30). BMI 31. Unicornuate Uterus, PCOS, Mild Endo. Irregular cycles. Elevated Prolactin. DH (30) Poor SA results (count, motility and morphology). Next Step: Slowly going mad. Awaiting Brain MRI results to check for benign tumour. Next Step: 2 cycles of NHS IVF with ICSI approved when results are in and BMI at target.
    • Tea Lover TTC#1 since 2009. Me - 35, endo, pcos. OH - 41, v poor SA results (count, motility, morphology). Clomid - didn't do much. One ICSI cycle - BFP then early m/c. Next step: ICSI #2 - Feb14.
    • theonlywayisup TTC#1 since feb 12. Me (29) pcos, long irregular cycles. OH (30) awaiting results of SA. Also awaiting fs appointment and results of possible partial molar pregnancy.
    • tia86 TTC1 since 12/12 (27 years old, OH 28). First appointment with FS booked for March. Scan for PCOS booked for Feb.
      time2deal TTC#1 since 10/11. 37. DH 376. Low AMH, Low SA - but ovulating fine. Overweight (29 BMI). Cervical cancer 12/12 (remission 03/13). IVF 01/13 9 frozen embryos. IVF Nov 2013 cycle cancelled due to cervical scarring. 3 embryos frozen. Next Step Unsure. Considering NHS IVF
    • Vesper 29 been with hubby since 2003. NTNP since end of 2003. Early MC 2006. It made us realise the time was right and started trying properly by following Ov in around 2010, and using a cbfm in Oct 2011. Hubby had mumps as a toddler. SA in 08 showed a low sperm count, but not sure on details. Next Steps. trying to get a SA for hubby again, and been refered for day 21 bloods at local hospital. Waiting for appointment.
    • Whattodonow TTC#1 for for over 2 years. 32, Had all scans - OK, OH has supersperm, I have around 11 AMH, so not great. Three rounds of clomid - totally eff-ed up my cycle and effected my eyesight, so didn't complete 4th round. Next step Awaiting consultant appointment to begin IVF treatment
    • Wonder Woman TTC#1 for approx. 1 year. Me: 27, no known problems, DH: 34, problem with vas deferens. On 1st NHS IVF cycle (long protocol)Next step Down reg scan booked for 12 Nov 13. Hoping for EC in w/c 25 Nov 13.
    Last edited by tea lover; 04-03-2014 at 8:09 AM.
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    • skaps
    • By skaps 28th Mar 18, 10:00 AM
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    Wow congrats slothsocks. Great news.

    I am also using Crinone and agree how they can spoil your underwear but luckily it washes off though sometimes not so easily. I am wearing cheap underwear too so am not too bothered of they get ruined.

    Have my early scan tomorrow. Feeling very nervous about this and my husband can't come with me as we are moving house. Hoping all goes well. I haven't had many symptoms just a bit of nausea and a few twinges. I have gained some weight too.

    Good luck sporty and lily. Everything crosded for you. X
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    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 31st Mar 18, 4:47 PM
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    Oh congratuations sloth!!! So so happy for you ! Hope both you and skaps have a happy, healthy and smooth 9 months !

    sporty how are things? Seems we are only a few days apart, fingers crossed for your embies xx

    Skaps, how was the scan? I've never had a positive before - can anyone shed some light on what happens at the scans? Do they test blood levels?

    We had ET on Weds, 2 x blastocysts but the other embies sadly didn't make it to freezing so keeping my fingers crossed that we get our very first positive next Fri! Trying to keep busy...

    Wishing everyone a fantastic Easter, speak soon xxx
    • SportyGirl
    • By SportyGirl 2nd Apr 18, 4:36 PM
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    I have an embryo on board too. Still early in the two week wait though. Keeping my fingers crossed for you too lily_rose. Sometimes I wish we knew what was happening inside us right now. Keeping distracted with films, reading, puzzles etc.. how is your waiting going?

    How is everyone else getting on?
    • skaps
    • By skaps 2nd Apr 18, 11:21 PM
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    Fingers crossed for you sporty and lilyrose. Xxx

    The scan went well. It was an internal scan. Saw a heartbeat and baby is doing well. Got a scan picture too. Have been transferred back to my GP to be referred to maternity services. No bloods taken. I'm still on Crinone until I'm 10 weeks.

    How are the rest of yiu getting on?
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    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 3rd Apr 18, 8:48 AM
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    Glad scan went well Skaps.
    I retested this morning. Negative. So it was a chemical pregnancy. Feels like a cruel joke.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 4th Apr 18, 6:23 PM
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    Oh no sloth, I hope the test was faulty, have you tested again? When are you due to attend FC?? Fingers crossed that it was just a faulty test xxx
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 4th Apr 18, 6:32 PM
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    I'm due to test on Fri and nervous about it. I don't feel pregnant, all the symptoms I had like cramps and sore boobs disappeared about 2/3 days ago.

    Feel stressed at work aswell
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 6th Apr 18, 5:44 AM
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    I've just tested and its a bfn. Words cannot describe how I'm feeling right now...
    • angel11
    • By angel11 6th Apr 18, 7:02 PM
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    Sloth & Lily so sorry to hear both your news, hope you're both looking after yourselves xxx
    • SportyGirl
    • By SportyGirl 7th Apr 18, 11:30 AM
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    Sorry to hear your news Lily_Rose and Slothsocks, thinking of you both. The failure of my last cycle hit me hard.

    I'm trying my hardest to stay positive for this cycle. The whole ivf, TTC process really does take over our lives and is tough to deal with.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 13th Apr 18, 12:25 PM
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    Thank you for your kind words ladies. To be honest with you, I didn't think I would be pregnant just because I have never been pregnant or had a positive. Plus I didn't feel pregnant.

    We have a follow up appointment on Mon so see what they say about it. I really think there is something wrong with me - never been pregnant & trying for over 3 years. I believe there is something wrong with my egg quality or implantation....

    Hope everyone is ok x
    • skaps
    • By skaps 18th Apr 18, 6:26 AM
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    So sorry to hear that sloth and lily. I had what they think may have been a chemical pregnancy and it took me a while to get over it. Look after yourselves xxx
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    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 28th Apr 18, 7:10 AM
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    Hi ladies, me again....

    So it turns out I have poor egg quality at the ripe old age of 31, together with low amh !!!128557;!!!128557;!!!128557;

    I wondered how long you waited before going onto 2nd ivf? FC says ok to start at my next cycle which is due in a few days time but unsure whether I should perhaps change my diet for a few months before trying again. I read online some people had to wait 3 months?

    I have an appt with NHS at the end of next month (1st round cost over 10k so we probably could only afford 1 more private round), no doubt waiting times will be well over a year with NHS...

    Love to you all xxx
    • skaps
    • By skaps 28th Apr 18, 9:27 AM
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    Hi we had to wait 3 months between IVF cycles, this was on the NHS.
    Do you havw any frozen embryos? If you're starting a fresh cycle again you may want to give your body a rest. But obviously do whatever you feel is best. Hope that you're keeping well xxx
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    • pinkteapot
    • By pinkteapot 1st May 18, 11:12 AM
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    *peeks back in*

    Hi all - some of you might remember me from when I was active on this thread a few years ago. We have unexplained infertility, IVF in 2014 didn't work. We're still trying but slowly moving towards a future without children. Huge hugs and wishes of luck to everyone currently or soon to be in treatment.

    Anyway, popping back because I've read this fascinating article today: https://theconversation.com/infertility-through-the-ages-and-how-ivf-changed-the-way-we-think-about-it-87128

    There's loads in it, but one thing that really struck me was how the new availability of contraception in the 1960s meant we were all told that we had control over our fertility. "Have a baby when you want now!" The message that sometimes it's still totally out of our hands got lost, and people before that still struggled but were often more fatalistic ("wasn't meant to be").

    Sharing in case it helps anyone. If you're in the depths of treatment it might be an upset trigger - it talks negatively about IVF success rates so just remember that it still means it works for a lot of people.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 7th May 18, 10:06 AM
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    Thank you pinkteapot, was a great read and definately agree that they don't talk about the possible difficulties in the future after trying so hard to prevent pregnancy in the younger years. Also do agree with the stigma of not being able to get pregnant.

    Ladies, I am feeling so down. Tried to be optimistic thinking this month might be the month after failed ivf, only for the lovely AF to rear its ugly head. I was so hoping to be a mum before 30 but little did I know, its a lot harder to conceive. Its over 3 years ttc. I really don't think we will ever have children of our own & I'm currently contemplating whether to use donor eggs or adopt. OH unfortunately doesn't agree although our statistics of never getting one BPF, are against us.

    None made to freezing unfortunately. We are gonna wait until next AF to allow my body rest from the drugs before trying second round, thanks skaps. Hope you are well x
    • pinkteapot
    • By pinkteapot 8th May 18, 12:54 PM
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    Oh, Lily. There's nothing I can say to make that pain easier but there are a lot of us here who understand how you're feeling. Every 'milestone' birthday becomes a nightmare (let's face it - infertility just ruins your birthday for you every year!) and makes you think about it even more. Hugs for AF time. Treat yourself to something that brings some measure of comfort and have a cuddle on the sofa with OH. It gets so hard when you reach the point of contemplating alternatives at different times.
    • kate5555
    • By kate5555 15th May 18, 2:12 PM
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    Hi all.

    I introduced myself on this thread a few months ago before initial consultation for fertility treatment. Have been occasionally lurking since as not much has been happening for me, just waiting for appointments for next steps etc.

    Sorry to hear your sad news Lily_Rose and slothsocks. I haven't been in that situation yet so I can't say I know how you're feeling but just want to say hope you can take as much time as you need to heal and become positive for the next steps.

    For me, I'm planning to start 1st treatment in August. I'm receiving the endometrial scratch procedure in July as part of a research trial to assess whether it has an effect on pregnancy rates in women undergoing IVF for the first time. Has anyone ever had the endometrial scratch? I hadn't heard about it until the FC mentioned the trial.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 21st May 18, 6:41 PM
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    kate5555, when I had my hysteroscopy at the end of Feb I had an endometrial scratch, not sure how much it helped as I had ET at the end of March.

    If AF arrives this month then we should be onto the 2nd IVF next month. Let us know how you get on xxx
    • kate5555
    • By kate5555 22nd May 18, 2:49 PM
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    Hope the 2nd round goes well next month Lily_Rose. Will keep popping in here to see how everyone is getting on.

    August feels like an age away for me to start 1st round but at least I have a date now and it will probably be here before I know it.
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