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    • tea lover
    • By tea lover 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
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    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)
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    • 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+) 7th Feb 14 at 11:08 AM
    Welcome to the long term TTC thread! This is for people who have been TTC for a while, or know they are going to not have a straightforward experience of TTC. There is a huge range of reasons why people post here, and most of them have put a summary below so you can get your bearings.

    Everyone is welcome, and please don't be intimidated by the banter. The ladies here understand the long term heartache of this process, and also can give lots of advice and experience. It's also a great place to rant when one more facebook friend starts to complain about how wonderfully fertile she is!

    The normal TTC thread is here: and the ladies there are lovely too.

    The first post there also gives some of the acronyms, but please don't hesitate to ask anyone here if there are some you don't understand.

    Team TTC info
    • Angeltreats TTC#1 since 08/12, NTNP for at least a year before that. 33 OH 33. Investigation so far: Scan & 21 day bloods for me, all ok. OH has low sperm count & low motility. Next step: First FS appointment 28 November & DH urology appointment 29 November
    • Babywanted TTC for 10 years, all tests clear on both me and hubby, unexplained infertility, miscarried twins April 2012
    • bigmomma051204 TTC#2 since 01/12. PCOS. One ovary due to childhood issue. Overweight, but regular 28 day cycle.
    • Chickpea. 40 TTC#2 since 09/09. Mmc Aug 2013 and m/c Dec 2013. Treatment: run out of options, hoping for a miracle.
    • codemonkey TTC#1 since Oct 2010. 34, DH 32. Investigations so far: Transvaginal ultrasound and HSG all normal, SA showed azoospermia with no vas deferens. MESA/TESA impossible. TESE ruled out due to high risk. Next step: lick our wounds and consider sperm donation/adoption routes.
    • cwtw Ttc #1 since Jan 12, me 31 OH 32. Me: PCO normal weight and symptomless except bleeding too often; some anovulatory cycles. OH normal everything. Next Step: On inositol, first fs appt Sept 13 eek.
    • Danielley TTC#1 since July 2012. Me - almost 35, OH - 34, currently under a consultant at Liverpool Womens, had initial tests (D3 & D21 bloods, external ultrasound, HSG, SA) All fine other apart from borderline abnormal creatinine level in blood so repeating test. Been prescibed 3months Clomid - 1st Cycle Oct 13. Next step: Appt with FS 18/12/13
    • Elsie37 TTC#1 since 02/12. 31. Next step: FS appointment 29 July
    • emmaj30 37. DH 43. Just gone on IVF list. Laproscopy fine and no blockage in tubes. No endo and diagnosed with Unexplained fertility. Hope to start treatment in next 2-4 months (updated Feb14)
    • Fairy Dust TTC#1 since 2006 (well NTNP for the first year). DH 38 Me 38. Unexplained infertility. All tests normal (strange how you hope that they find something wrong that they can "fix"). Failed IVF 1st cycle August 2013. Next Step Booked in for 2nd cycle Feb 2014.
    • Floaty (34) DH 38. TTC#1 since 01/2009. Unexplained IF. Had all FS tests (day 3 bloods, ov+7d bloods, internal ultrasounds, HSG, several SAs and a Lap&Dye - all look normal). Next step: FS appointment 11th March, hopefully for IVF referral.

      FrozenPenguin TTC#1 since Dec 2011. Me 31, DH 35, Me: mild PCOS,irregular cycles and irregular ovulation. Had Day 3/Day 21 tests, Ultrasound,HSG, 7 rounds of Clomid. DH: low SA in all 3 areas (count, morphology and motility)and a varicocele. Next step: Provera, Suprecur and Gonal-F to start January, ICSI planned for mid February
    • goodvibes TTC#1 since 04/12. 36 OH 38. Investigation so far. Me no problems OH low sperm count. Next step: ICSI treatment to start end of feb 14
    • isla_red TTC#1 since 05/11, 32 OH 33. I have a history of painful ovarian cysts but all scans internal and external clear and 21 day bloods okay for me. Discovered OH has a low sperm count in 2012 so removed from IUI list and transferred to ICSI list. Next step Currently awaiting reaching top of NHS ICSI waiting list, first appointment predicted circa Jan 2014
    • lisawood78 TTC # 1 since 2003, I'm 35 hubby 38. Hubby no issues. No fallopian tubes due to ectopic pregnancies caused by severe adhesions. 9 Failed IVF/ICSI/FET cycles. Next Step: Surrogacy consultation on October 4th
    • Littleme82: Me 32; DP 45. TTC since 09.2012. Blood tests show low progesterone; DP SA not great; prescribed clomid currently on 8th cycle; scans last year all ok; HSG looks fine; seeing FS to discuss next steps on 04.03.14.
      loveactually me 33, DH 43, officials started TTC from May 2013 but NTNP from last 2 years. no problems from DH. For me moderate endo which was operated in Nov/13. But very low ovarian reserve according to AMH test and FSH hormone so referred to IVF first appointment on 4 February
    • lucyloo77 TTC#1 since 07/2011. 35, OH is 41. OH has low SA/motility, me no known issues. Unsuccessful IVF/ICSI in May 2013 and August 2013.
    • MrsDavo TTC#1 (together) since 01/2011. 25, OH : 35. I have 6yr old girl, he has 4yr old girl both from different relationships. MMC April 2012. Diagnosed PCOS Dec 2012 - i ovulate on my own maybe twice a year! Male slightly low. Tried 3 cycles of Clomid in 2013. Next step: Metformin for 3 months daily, back to FS on 5/2/14.
    • onestep TTC#2 (dd 9) we've stopped actively ttc now, & are investigating adoption. Next Step Waiting to be assigned a SW
    • Part Mouse TTC#1 since 2009. 29 DH 36. PCOS, blocked right tube, no ov. Male problems as well. No response to tamoxafin. Next Step: Currently injecting Menpur to stimulate ovulation.
    • Peonie TTC #1 since 08/10. 35, DH 38. Severe endo. 1 MC 06/12. Next step: IVF short protocol in January..
    • Purcy81 TTC#1 since 09/12 aged 32 DH aged 32. 2MC (Oct 12 & Jun 13) Irregular and long cycles with late OV and short LP (managed to get it to 10 days now with AC and Vit B6). Other than this no known problems on either side. Next steps Just keep trying, both MC have been confirmed by the doctor but no medical help or even testing will be forthcoming as we can get pregnant and they only test after 3MC as having 2 is "probably just bad luck"
    • Picklekin TTC #1 since July 2012. Unexplained fertility. Tried 6 months of clomid without success. Now waiting for a referral to a new gynaecologist for a second opinion.
    • Primmer TTC#1 since 2009. 39, DH 48. Unexplained infertility. Unsuccessful IVF treatment. Considering adoption but still hoping for a miracle.
    • sadshoequeenAge 39 originally TTC #1 2009, mc may 2011, breastcancer diagnosis aug 2011, TTC again since July 2013 think ovulating but maybe randomly as one ovary, fsh levels fine. Next step: unsure
    • Sewit TTC #1 Oct 2011. Me - 35, DH 38. Unexplained Infertility. AMH 4. 1st IVF 8 eggs, 4 fertilised, 2x2dt -BFN Stepping away from TTC until Jan 2014.
    • skint_catt TTC#2. (DD aged 2). Weve been trying for 12 months & hubby is 42 & I am 36. next step: pelvic scan 24/10/13 & waiting for AF for GP to do more bloods on CD3.
    • Skaps So far have had my blood tests, OH has had his tests which have come back fine. Had an ultrasound and they think they found a polyps so am going to have a hysteroscopy to check and remove it if its there.
    • Smookle TTC for approx 18 months. Aged 27. DH 29. Had laproscopy and diagnosed with moderate Endo and adhesions. All allegedly fixed and fine but still not pregnant. Regular, short cycles, ovulating 2 out of 3 times. Failed IUI Dec/14 Next step - IVF/ICSI referral for Jan 14
    • Star02 Married in 2008 and been trying to conceive since 2009, in 2011 had tests and confirmed would need ICSI, however I was too young to qualify for NHS funding. Next Step Just received letter to have a referral as although still to young based on prior criteria they have removed the lower age limit due to the change in the age discrimination laws.
    • teaandcupcakeordeath TTC #1 since 04/2011. Me (30). BMI 31. Unicornuate Uterus, PCOS, Mild Endo. Irregular cycles. Elevated Prolactin. DH (30) Poor SA results (count, motility and morphology). Next Step: Slowly going mad. Awaiting Brain MRI results to check for benign tumour. Next Step: 2 cycles of NHS IVF with ICSI approved when results are in and BMI at target.
    • Tea Lover TTC#1 since 2009. Me - 35, endo, pcos. OH - 41, v poor SA results (count, motility, morphology). Clomid - didn't do much. One ICSI cycle - BFP then early m/c. Next step: ICSI #2 - Feb14.
    • theonlywayisup TTC#1 since feb 12. Me (29) pcos, long irregular cycles. OH (30) awaiting results of SA. Also awaiting fs appointment and results of possible partial molar pregnancy.
    • tia86 TTC1 since 12/12 (27 years old, OH 28). First appointment with FS booked for March. Scan for PCOS booked for Feb.
      time2deal TTC#1 since 10/11. 37. DH 376. Low AMH, Low SA - but ovulating fine. Overweight (29 BMI). Cervical cancer 12/12 (remission 03/13). IVF 01/13 9 frozen embryos. IVF Nov 2013 cycle cancelled due to cervical scarring. 3 embryos frozen. Next Step Unsure. Considering NHS IVF
    • Vesper 29 been with hubby since 2003. NTNP since end of 2003. Early MC 2006. It made us realise the time was right and started trying properly by following Ov in around 2010, and using a cbfm in Oct 2011. Hubby had mumps as a toddler. SA in 08 showed a low sperm count, but not sure on details. Next Steps. trying to get a SA for hubby again, and been refered for day 21 bloods at local hospital. Waiting for appointment.
    • Whattodonow TTC#1 for for over 2 years. 32, Had all scans - OK, OH has supersperm, I have around 11 AMH, so not great. Three rounds of clomid - totally eff-ed up my cycle and effected my eyesight, so didn't complete 4th round. Next step Awaiting consultant appointment to begin IVF treatment
    • Wonder Woman TTC#1 for approx. 1 year. Me: 27, no known problems, DH: 34, problem with vas deferens. On 1st NHS IVF cycle (long protocol)Next step Down reg scan booked for 12 Nov 13. Hoping for EC in w/c 25 Nov 13.
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    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 14th Mar 18, 6:35 AM
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    Congratulations skaps! Brought a smile to my face , so happy!! I still have my fingers crossed for you

    Yes slothsocks I'm stimming at the moment, up this early to take cetrotide, I'm shatted lol. Like you said it only takes one egg, stay positive - I've also got my fingers crossed for you!!

    I'm a bit worried as was told I have a big lead folly and 7 little ones, possible abandon round if I don't respond well with the new drugs which is disappointing news. I have a scan on Friday, hope the lil follies have grown!x
    • SportyGirl
    • By SportyGirl 14th Mar 18, 11:29 AM
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    Congrats Skaps. How are you doing lily_rose and how is everyone else?

    I'm on day 20 of injections today. Buserelin until Monday when i started stims at a higher dose this time. 450 gonal f. Feeling it already. 1st scan for follies and lining isn't until Monday which feels like ages right now!
    • angel11
    • By angel11 14th Mar 18, 1:26 PM
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    Congratulations skaps that's fantastic news

    Sloth you're so right, it does only take 1, how many did they manage to collect?

    Sporty I know it feels like ages away, but Monday will be here before you know it.

    Lily fx for some more growth by Friday. I've been taking ubiquinol too for a few years (since we 1st realised we had a problem), but I researched dhea a bit more & I'm thinking twice about it now. We live in N.I. & there's only 2 fc in the whole blooming country

    Still haven't got appt that was meant to happen this month for amh results, so i gave them a call & they said it'll be next month & they're sorting dates out today/tomorrow. Have a feeling I was forgotten about, or maybe I'm just being paranoid (I think I've got pms atm )
    • skaps
    • By skaps 14th Mar 18, 6:40 PM
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    Thanks all. Xxx

    Sloth yes it only takes 1. Best of luck.

    Lily Rose fingers crossed for growth.

    Sporty hope the scan goes well.
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    • LilElvis
    • By LilElvis 14th Mar 18, 7:23 PM
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    Hi yes I did. Have done 2 tests now and they were both positive! I'm still in shock and have an early scan on the 29th. Trying to not get too carried away as it is still very early. Will be testing every few days until my appointment. X
    Originally posted by skaps
    Hi skaps!

    Just wanted to offer more congratulations! I joined this site after I had finished my IVF journey but I always read this thread. My FET is now 7 years old and currently trying on every outfit in her wardrobe in preparation for her first school disco. Make sure you have lots of tissues with you when you have your scan - it's just amazing when you see the little flicker that's the heartbeat. Enjoy the rest of your pregnancy and look forward to spending next Christmas as a family for the first time.

    And lots of supportive thoughts for all those still on their journey - it's not easy but I hope you will all be as blessed as I have been. X
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 15th Mar 18, 4:14 PM
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    Thanks for your kind words, guys. They managed to collect 5, 4 mature and fertilised. Hoping for a blastocyst transfer on Saturday, if we get that far, which I really really hope we do. The embryologist said when the called on day 1 that they would only call on day 2 or 3 if some were lagging behind, and we could opt for 2 or 3 day transfer. But as nobody has contacted me I should hear from them tomorrow re 5 day transfer.

    I've got my fingers crossed your follicles are doing some good growing Lily-Rose, good luck tomorrow for your scan.

    Sorry things are dragging for you SportGirl. I found once the scans started it all went so quickly up to EC. Now it's dragging again as I'm so stressed about our little embryos.

    Hope your appointment comes through soon Angel11

    Love and luck to anyone I've missed x
    • cwtw
    • By cwtw 16th Mar 18, 7:58 PM
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    Yay Skaps - so many congratulations. Fingers crossed for you.

    Hope everything goes well this weekend slothsocks.

    Take care everyone and be kind to yourselves x
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 17th Mar 18, 8:31 PM
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    Appt on Fri went well, the follies have grown! Have another appt on Mon to see whether I need more drugs or book in for collection, I hope its the latter. I'm currently on 450iu Meriofert and such a pain having to mix. Fingers crossed for you Sporty

    Angel, I think they may have forgotten about you and it was a good thing you chased them up. I hope you get an appt very soon. I'm also shocked that there are only 2 FC!

    Any news sloth?

    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 18th Mar 18, 8:55 AM
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    Yay Lily_Rose! So glad your follicles are growing nicely. fingers crossed your Monday scan goes well and you!!!8217;re booked in for collection. Our collection was put back by 3 days initially and it was frustrating but I understand why the clinic like to use a conservative amount of the swimming drugs on a first cycle as OHSS can be really nasty and scupper the whole cycle.

    We had 2 day 5 blastocysts put back yesterday morning. Onecwas slightly better than the other but the embryologist was happy that they were both good quality. I can!!!8217;t believe how lucky we were to get two embryos to day 5 transfer after only having 5 eggs collected. I!!!8217;m such a whirl of emotions.

    The other two that fertilised were still progressing but hadn!!!8217;t formed blastocysts at day 5. The embryologist said they could still form blastocysts today and if they!!!8217;re suitable they will freeze them, but I!!!8217;m not getting my hopes up. I!!!8217;m just counting myself lucky to have had embryos to transfer. I was really worried we wouldn!!!8217;t make it that far.

    Thinking of you all on this rollercoaster x
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 18th Mar 18, 8:59 AM
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    Apologies, my punctuation appears to have gone berserk because I posted from my phone
    • SportyGirl
    • By SportyGirl 18th Mar 18, 11:54 AM
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    Thanks Slothsocks, that's great news on your blastocysts and embryo transfer.

    How are you getting on Lily-Rose?

    I've done 6 injections of Gonal-f at dose 450 so hoping for good growth on the follicles at the scan tomorrow. Another scan is booked on weds too. We worked out that i could have up to 6 more days of stims to go, so around 28 days of injections. Fingers crossed for egg collection maybe end this week/early next.

    How is everyone else getting on?
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 18th Mar 18, 8:32 PM
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    Hoping both our appts tomorrow will bring good news for us Sporty.

    Good luck sloth! Just have to keep yourself busy now .
    Last edited by Lily_Rose; 18-03-2018 at 8:33 PM. Reason: posted too early
    • skaps
    • By skaps 22nd Mar 18, 5:46 PM
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    Yes sloth try to keep yourself busy as the 2ww can feel so long.

    Hope Lily and Sporty that your appointments went well.
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    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 25th Mar 18, 6:15 PM
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    Good evening ladies, hope all is well

    Had EC on Fri, we had 9 eggs, 5 fertilised, 4 good ones and 1 average. Waiting for FC to confirm whether to transfer tomorrow or Weds. I haven't told work and so will have to pull a sickie which I hate but I have had so much time off with scans etc I won't be able to book off as hol...thinking of excuses to make...

    How is everyone??? X
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 25th Mar 18, 6:51 PM
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    That is great news Lily-Rose. Glad egg collection went well and good luck for embryo transfer. Keep us updated! Are you feeling ok? I found it so nerve wracking waiting to hear how ours were getting on and they didnt call at all unless they wanted us to come in so each day I was a wreck not knowing if I was going to hear anything.

    AFM I am 8dp5dt and going crazy. I want OTD to just get here already, but at the same time I am so afraid and I do not want to POAS because if it is negative (which at my age is the most likely outcome) I will be devastated after all we have been through. Our other embryos did not make it to freeze so this is it. I have had absolutely no symptoms at all though and I just feel like it has not worked. This is the hardest 2ww Ive ever done (and Ive done a lot of 2wws)
    • ellesbellesxxx
    • By ellesbellesxxx 26th Mar 18, 6:14 AM
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    YAY Skaps!!!! So so pleased for you!!!! Hope scan goes well x

    Sloth just seen your posts.. keeping everything x for you. I remember how nerve racking it was waiting for those phone calls! Did you get a photo of your embryos?! Random question I know.. our clinic don't do that but they did give me a scan pic of them being put in when I expressed disappointment... not that you can see much!!!

    Lily rose keeping everything x for you and your ET.

    Sporty hope you are feeling ok with your injections
    Hope all of you are ok.. I am always happy to talk about our ivf journey on here or via pm xx
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 26th Mar 18, 9:40 AM
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    Thanks ellesbelles! We didnt get a pic of our embryos, but I wasnt expecting one tbh.

    How are things going SportyGirl?

    OTD is tomorrow. I could not sleep last night and I feel so stressed. Still no symptoms at all but I cannot stop myself hoping.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 26th Mar 18, 6:28 PM
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    Ooooh good luck sloth! Fingers crossed for you xxx

    Thanks for your support elles ! Didn't realise there could be some images...might ask the clinic lol.

    We have transfer on Weds, I am so nervous and keep thinking the worse things possible, sloth I think we need to think more positively!

    I have lost 3 pairs on knickers from those oily pessaries, its costing me even more money as need replacement underwear haha!

    Speak soon ladies x
    • SportyGirl
    • By SportyGirl 27th Mar 18, 7:07 AM
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    How are you getting on slothsocks and Lily_rose?

    The injections are now over for me. It was getting tough near the end to find a non painful injection site. I did 28 days of injections and was on 3 a night towards the end. I triggered on Saturday and had egg collection yesterday on our wedding anniversary of all days. We had to leave the hotel trip we had planned very very early to get there.

    All went well and iím recovering now and am a bit apprehensive about the phone call of how the eggs and some got on.

    Yes, I remember how the pessaries are so messy and ruin knickers. Last time I just bought a multipack of cheap knickers and called the, pessart knickers. It didnít matter if the got ruined.

    How is everyone else?
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 27th Mar 18, 9:26 AM
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    Today is OTD. I got the faintest squinter of a positive, but it is definitely there. Have to test again in 7 days and if it is still showing positive they will book me in for a scan to confirm. I cant believe it. I am in shock. I really thought it had not worked.

    Glad your egg collection went well SportyGirl. Got my fingers crossed lots have fertilised for you.

    I amm using crinone gel rather than the oil pessaries. It is still messy and forms lumps like play doh, but at least it washes off easily!
    Last edited by slothsocks; 27-03-2018 at 9:29 AM.
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