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    • MSE Archna
    • By MSE Archna 21st Jan 14, 1:27 PM
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    Cheap Heating Oil guide discussion
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    • 21st Jan 14, 1:27 PM
    Cheap Heating Oil guide discussion 21st Jan 14 at 1:27 PM

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    • Stella72
    • By Stella72 29th Jun 17, 2:40 PM
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    Heating Oil Comparison Site
    I was searching for a good price for my oil delivery as the syndicate that I am with are getting more and more expensive and I came across a comparison site for heating oil delivery- never knew they had them... anyway. what it boils down to is that I saved money - more money for I was quoted 34.80 + VAT per litre but got it for 33.20 + VAT
    I also found this thread and wanted to let people out there know about it also. I called the company up and they have been in the oil business for a long time but they have expanded ( I did not want to hand my money over to anyone new who would take it and do a runner)
    the site is heatingoilcompare co uk only in the south-west but the guy said they are expanding quickly. Good luck to them I say.
    • GaryEdin
    • By GaryEdin 24th Nov 17, 11:13 AM
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    What a minefield! Having just moved into a rural property with oil I just followed the advice of the previous owner 's advice to use boilerjuice.com. With the cold snap hitting I thought I'd check to see if the prices are going up (yes) but the fuelz.co.uk site (took some finding as it's not showing on google) showed that joil.co.uk were 2 pence per litre cheaper than boilerjuice, in fact boilerjuice were down in 3rd.

    Now to get a service plan sorted, although I'm thinking it might be better to just get the service down as a one off than signing up to an annual plan - are these worth it, or is better to put the 35 into a savings account?
    • Ebe Scrooge
    • By Ebe Scrooge 24th Nov 17, 11:45 AM
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    Ebe Scrooge
    What a minefield! Having just moved into a rural property with oil I just followed the advice of the previous owner 's advice to use boilerjuice.com. With the cold snap hitting I thought I'd check to see if the prices are going up (yes) but the fuelz.co.uk site (took some finding as it's not showing on google) showed that joil.co.uk were 2 pence per litre cheaper than boilerjuice, in fact boilerjuice were down in 3rd.

    Now to get a service plan sorted, although I'm thinking it might be better to just get the service down as a one off than signing up to an annual plan - are these worth it, or is better to put the 35 into a savings account?
    Originally posted by GaryEdin

    BoilerJuice is useful for getting a benchmark figure, but you'll invariably get cheaper by phoning a few local companies and asking for their best price. And a lot of them will match or beat the price of their competitors.


    What does your service plan cover, and how much is it ? We just use a local guy who's brilliant, he charges 70 for a standard service.


    Oh, and don't get tempted by these direct debit schemes offered by most oil suppliers. You're far better to just put money aside each month into a savings account, then use that when the time comes to fill up. The company that is cheapest one time will very often not be the cheapest the next time you need to order.


    One final point - remember that most companies have a minimum order of 500 litres. And the price-per-litre tends to drop if you order more than a certain amount - typically 900 litres.
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    • GaryEdin
    • By GaryEdin 24th Nov 17, 11:55 AM
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    70 is a great price!

    I was quoted a plan at 35 per month but it just covers what's inside the boiler, everything else is time and materials, which makes me think it's not really worth it. Even a standalone service was over over 100, so I think it's time to ask around and see if there's someone local.

    I read up on the volume discounts - it's interesting watching which supplier comes in cheapest just by sliding the volume up and down a little.
    Thanks for the advice.
    G
    • abssorb
    • By abssorb 29th Dec 17, 6:59 PM
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    Please can the article at https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/cheap-heating-oil
    be reviewed for its integrity?

    I place a lot of faith in MSE as I trust the articles as they are highly discerning and have great integrity. I.e. I place a lot of faith in the recommendations on MSE and will often skip in-depth analysis on that basis.

    Recently I needed to make an urgent order for heating oil, and did some shopping around. I saw Fueltool listed and gave them a try.

    Now the delivery is late and I can't get hold of anyone. And am now doing the diligence retrospectively.

    Fuetool are trying to say they are a broker, and direct my payment to a third party but without my choice. Seems more like sub-contracting rather than brokering.

    In this case they directed my payment to HomeFuels, another company on the article page, who in turn instructed Tate Oil, who are over 150 miles away.

    If it gets any more overdue, we're going to run out. So I started making phone calls and I'm just getting answering machines. I'll post separately about my scenario as it unfolds, but back to the point of the article:

    Companies house show that both Fueltool and HomeFuels are tiny husband and wife type companies.

    Which is fine except they are taking payments up front, which means if they go out of business you lose your money. The T&Cs are very shaky indeed and would not pass muster by trading standards.

    Neither show any association with the Federation of Petroleum Suppliers recommended in the article.


    Please could some additional cautionary notes be placed against the recommendations??
    Last edited by abssorb; 29-12-2017 at 7:02 PM.
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 29th Dec 17, 7:19 PM
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    All good points, though I'm not very surprised that there are delays given both the weather and the time of year. What it reinforces for me is the necessity of paying by credit card, where you have a claim against the card provider in the event of a failure.

    I hope you get your oil in time.
    • abssorb
    • By abssorb 29th Dec 17, 8:03 PM
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    Thanks, I hope it helps others.

    Of course we have to make allowances for Christmas and snow.

    This one is from mid-Dec. I don't like leaving things to the last minute, but the Dec one was a fresh order after a November one cancelled on us.

    We need a bigger tank I think!
    • stephen.biddle
    • By stephen.biddle 19th Jul 18, 10:27 AM
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    Don't use Boilerjuice
    I placed an order and pre-paid. They failed to deliver and blamed their subcontractor. When I complained they said I had no contract with them and so no compensation for leaving me in the cold.

    Don't use them

    Stephen
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 20th Jul 18, 9:01 AM
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    Davesnave
    I placed an order and pre-paid. They failed to deliver and blamed their subcontractor. When I complained they said I had no contract with them and so no compensation for leaving me in the cold.

    Don't use them

    Stephen
    Originally posted by stephen.biddle
    As you acknowledge in your post, Boilerjuice don't themselves deliver, as they are an intermediary. Most people who deal with them probably understand that too.


    There can be many reasons for a failed delivery, but there is only one reason for running out of fuel, which is why compo wouldn't be due. May I commend to you and others the services of a trusty 'length of wood,' which has given me excellent service over the years, accurately predicting when a fuel delivery would be advised: i.e. somewhat before absolutely necessary.
    "We won't get fooled again...."
    • Donallkennedy
    • By Donallkennedy 13th Oct 18, 1:50 PM
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    List misleading
    Was reading your article and it is really good especially about using credit card and now there is no charges.Last winter Boilerjuice couldn't offer my friends in East Anglia any quote all during the Bad weather "beast of the east". They were really p****d because they always used them and they wouldn't even answer the phone for a quote. So they used !!!!!!!!! who isnt on your dont list. we always shopped around and talking to others, These guys are always sharply priced, especially for larger orders like. Anyhow - your list needs updating.
    • elljay
    • By elljay 27th Oct 18, 9:53 AM
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    I've just ordered some more oil this morning (before it started snowing - GRR!) and paid 52.60 ppl. I've been checking prices over the past few weeks and it hasn't varied much so I've had to bite the bullet hoping others buy this weekend and I'll get a slight discount.

    Checking back over my oil-buying history I see I paid round 25ppl in early 2016. While of course most things go up over time, not many things double in price over two and a half years. Those of us in rural areas don't have the same choices as people with a gas supply and I'm going to find it pretty crippling as prices are sure to go up even more - despite a recent drop.

    Would be interested to hear what others are paying too.

    Elljay
    Last edited by elljay; 27-10-2018 at 1:25 PM.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 27th Oct 18, 10:32 AM
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    Davesnave

    Would be interested to hear what others are paying too.

    Elljay
    Originally posted by elljay
    Same as you here in Devon. I think it unlikely prices will fall now as more people cave-in and buy as the weather becomes colder and nights draw in.

    Best thing to do is insulate as much as possible and use any free sources of heat. Right now, our conservatory is just exceeding the temperature in the house, so we will open up the doors and it'll feed in warm air till around 16.30. We won't use te ch until around 19.30.

    Next week, the wood burner will probably go on in the evening. Messy, but cheap for us.

    Could be worse; we might have gone for wood pellets!
    "We won't get fooled again...."
    • Stevemiddlesbrough
    • By Stevemiddlesbrough 1st Dec 18, 7:59 PM
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    Heating oil prices
    Fuelz is very interesting. Always used boilerjuice to get a price then asked my local supplier to match it but I just checked and there are suppliers way cheaper than boilerjuice.
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 2nd Dec 18, 12:03 PM
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    A. Badger
    Yes, I checked Boilerjuice last week and their price is higher than that quoted by my local oil club (hardly a notable source of low prices anyway!).

    With the oil price as it is, I'm tempted to top-up by as much as I can get into the tank. It's December now and cheaper than when I bought in the 'low price period' in the summer!
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