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    • COOLTRIKERCHICK
    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 20th Jun 07, 11:45 AM
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    ben evans & co ltd in swansea any info please
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    • 20th Jun 07, 11:45 AM
    ben evans & co ltd in swansea any info please 20th Jun 07 at 11:45 AM
    i have a old coat which was from ben evans & co ltd in swansea....

    i know that they were. situated where castle gardens are now.... and the premises got bombed in 1941.... and demolised the grand building.....

    as i am trying to date this coat.. i need to know if after they got bombed did they re-locate near by..and carried on trading into the 50's ?

    or was that the end of the shop in 1941..?


    oh ye.... does anyone know or remember a ladies boutique shop in swnasea somewhere called..... nancy rosser...

    again possibly 50's 60's..

    i know its a long shot.. but i love researching where the old clohtes i get ...come from....
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    • Backbiter
    • By Backbiter 20th Jun 07, 10:34 PM
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    • 20th Jun 07, 10:34 PM
    Do you mean Dan Evans? That was the department store near the castle that became a House of Fraser store. It closed a few years ago, I think.
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    • 21st Jun 07, 5:45 AM
    http://www.swanseaheritage.net/swanseathroughtheyears/building.asp?BUILDING_ID=1
    I found these old pictures of Ben Evans&co, but there doesn't seem to be any after 1941, so I assume it probably never relocated.
    I can't find any info on Nancy Rossers though, but I'll keep searching.
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    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 21st Jun 07, 8:15 AM
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    • 21st Jun 07, 8:15 AM
    http://www.swanseaheritage.net/swanseathroughtheyears/building.asp?BUILDING_ID=1
    I found these old pictures of Ben Evans&co, but there doesn't seem to be any after 1941, so I assume it probably never relocated.
    I can't find any info on Nancy Rossers though, but I'll keep searching.
    Originally posted by alison99
    thanks alison.... i have seen those photos.... excellent bit of history.... but as you say nothing after they got bombed in 1941, so just wanted to check that they ceased trading then....

    i cant find anything on the internet about nancy rosser either.... but someone seems to think it might have been down by joe's ice cream parlour somewhere..:confused: . and possibly trade well into the 60's ....

    i think its the case of asking people's granny's if they remember the shop...lol...

    backbitter...dan evans ? would that be david evans .... no its not the same ...shop....

    i know that there were a few big department type stores in swansea... going back to 1900's to the 50's .. and then they sort of got dated and not trendy/fashionable.. as this is when the high street with chain stores started to appear......

    there was david evans...

    ben evans

    sidney heath....

    that i know of.. if anyone knows of anymore ....lol..

    i collect vintage clothing, and now i think i am going to try and collect noes which were sold in swansea ( which has a specific label of a swnasea shop )

    so it will also be keeping swansea fashion/shops remembered too...
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    • Backbiter
    • By Backbiter 22nd Jun 07, 12:41 AM
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    • 22nd Jun 07, 12:41 AM
    My mistake - I did mean David Evans. Dan Evans was in Barry and also shut down recently!
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 24th Jun 07, 11:42 AM
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    • 24th Jun 07, 11:42 AM
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    • 24th Jun 07, 11:42 AM
    Hi there!
    Ben Evans did cease trading after the wartime bombing. It was a great place to shop and very popular. It was seen as selling very good quality clothes.
    A new shop, built on more or less the same site, was taken by his son(?) David Evans. This flourished until the building of Debenhams / the Quadrant centre moved the focus away from the High Street area. Even though David Evans was in the House of Fraser group it lost its place as THE Swansea department store and closed. The building was knocked down earlier this year.

    Re Nancy Rosser. My mother thinks it was a very expensive ladies outfitters on Walters Road. She is getting together with 'the girls' (average age 78) on Monday and they will try to remember.

    Hope this helps in your search.
    • COOLTRIKERCHICK
    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 24th Jun 07, 3:23 PM
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    • 24th Jun 07, 3:23 PM
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    • 24th Jun 07, 3:23 PM
    Hi there!
    Ben Evans did cease trading after the wartime bombing. It was a great place to shop and very popular. It was seen as selling very good quality clothes.
    A new shop, built on more or less the same site, was taken by his son(?) David Evans. This flourished until the building of Debenhams / the Quadrant centre moved the focus away from the High Street area. Even though David Evans was in the House of Fraser group it lost its place as THE Swansea department store and closed. The building was knocked down earlier this year.

    Re Nancy Rosser. My mother thinks it was a very expensive ladies outfitters on Walters Road. She is getting together with 'the girls' (average age 78) on Monday and they will try to remember.

    Hope this helps in your search.
    Originally posted by luxor4t

    THANK YOU....

    this info is really usefull...a only have a few items with shop labels from swansea.... but i really do want to try and find more, and find out the history of these shops....as i feel they are a 'hands on' connection in to our social history....so if they can remember anything about these shops ( and sidney heath) i would be extremely gratefull..
    i will take some photos of the labels later and post them here for you to see... might ring a bell with some peeps...
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    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 27th Jun 07, 4:13 PM
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    • 27th Jun 07, 4:13 PM
    Just a quick post to confirm the Nancy Rosser location.
    Mum's friend remembers the Nancy Rosser shop as she treated herself to a suit after her son (now over 50) was born. It was on the section of Walter Road across from the Tenby Hotel, going towards town. Not sure when it closed, but lots of 'the girls' are on the case!
    I remember a posh jewellers around there until the mid 1970s, so maybe it was one of those smart areas that slipped out of style.
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    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 27th Jun 07, 4:38 PM
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    • 27th Jun 07, 4:38 PM
    thank you.......as you say walters road.... was 'posh' as thats where all the fur shops were as well...... i have also got a fur wrap which was from one of the swansea stores.... i musty admit i dont like furs.. but it was of its time....my youngest son wants to give it a funeral...lol.....but its all part of fashion and local history....

    say thanks to the 'girls' for me and to keep up the good work..... and any other stores/ shops they remember in and around swansea for me to keep an eye out for.....
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    • Backbiter
    • By Backbiter 27th Jun 07, 7:31 PM
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    on the section of Walter Road across from the Tenby Hotel
    Originally posted by luxor4t
    as you say walters road
    by COOLTRIKERCHICK
    It's always amused me how everyone refers to it as Walters Rd when it is, in fact, Walter Rd.
    I suppose it's like calling the place 'Bazeleg' when it's spelt Bassaleg.
    Local knowledge, innit?
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    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 27th Jun 07, 9:37 PM
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    It's always amused me how everyone refers to it as Walters Rd when it is, in fact, Walter Rd.
    I suppose it's like calling the place 'Bazeleg' when it's spelt Bassaleg.
    Local knowledge, innit?
    Originally posted by Backbiter
    i allways thought it was called walters road....:rolleyes:

    oh well maybe its becuase i am not a towny ...never mind mush..... i will called it walter road from now on....
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    • Janepig
    • By Janepig 29th Jun 07, 10:37 AM
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    Not my point at all. It IS known as Walters Rd in Swansea, despite the spelling!
    Originally posted by Backbiter
    Everyone I know in Swansea calls it Walter Road. :confused:

    Jxx
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    • By Backbiter 29th Jun 07, 10:36 PM
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    Everyone I know in Swansea calls it Walter Road. :confused:

    Jxx
    Originally posted by Janepig
    I haven't lived there for over 20 years, but all the locals -my gran included - seemed to call it Walters Rd!
  • swansea jack
    Ben Evans and other stores in Swansea
    Ben Evans relocated after the war to Walter Road (singular) and were in shops just down from the George pub - No 25 was one now occupied by a Housing Association. Ben Evans probably closed in late 1950s

    It was David Evans which was the store on their old site near the castle after the war. This was owned by Solomon Andrews - a Cardiff businessman who had property all over Wales - Castle Cinema in Swansea, Castle Bingo is part of the family, houses in Pwllhelli, David Evans in Cwmbran. They started in 1900.

    Another store in Swansea was Lewis Lewis which was in High Street near the Mackworth Hotel and an arcade where Snells music shop was. Have a read of Dylan Thomas' Return Joyrney - he lists all the bombed shops from High Street to Wind Street including Hornes Radio which my father ran - does anyone know anything about that or have any photos of the area? I know it was built against the castle wall.

    As the start of this thread was about old clothes I would like to ask if anyone knows an easy way of finding Edwardian clothes. We have restored the birth place of Dylan Thomas in Swansea (www 5cwmdonkindrive.com) and would like to offer visitors for house tours and Edwardian dinner parties to dress up in period.
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    • By COOLTRIKERCHICK 14th Nov 10, 10:02 AM
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    wow thanks Swansea Jack...

    Locally I dont know anyone with edwardian clothes... I have a few bits, but nothing worth shouting about,

    The clothes will also be quite expensive, so I dont know if it would be viable to use htem for dressig up in for the general public.. Plus dont forget they are 100 years old... so more or less bought for collectors now, not for everyday wear/use

    The only thing i can think of is to get a good seanstress to make you some reproductions...plus you might find people in Edwardian times were alot smaller/thinner than us of today...

    Come to think of it I have a load of old prob clothes so over the next few weeks i will go htrough them, and see if htere is anything suitable

    thanks for the heads up on the book
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  • swansea jack
    Correction about Ben Evans
    I think that I'm incorrect in saying before that Ben Evans moved to Walter Road - it must have moved somewhere as I remember my mother talking about 'Ben's'.

    However, it was Sidney Heath which was a clothes store which moved to Walter Road - they sold school uniforms among other things and my Swansea Grammar School (Bishop Gore School) maroon blazer came from there (since Dylan also went to teh same school a grammar school cap or blazer would be something we would like to obtain for 5 Cwmdonkin Drive).

    This link is to their store that was bombed - what a pity that it wasn't rebuilt in this style - the city fatyhers of Swansea have a lot to answer for! welshwales.co.uk/ben_evans.htm

    Sidney Heath moved later to a mock Tudor building on Castle Square which was later occupied by Treasure Gift Shop and now partly by Yeats Wine Bar on the top end of Wind Street. The style of the building was the same as Mr Heath's house Burry Cottage at Burry Green on Gower - the grounds of which used to be open to the public once a year.

    It was restored in the 1970s by John and Midge Frayne who went on to restored Fairyhill and turn it into the upmarket hotel and restaurant that it is today.
  • nicola-g
    Hi, for the Edwardian clothes, if you could get someone to make them, then the vintage pattern lending library vpll.org lends out patterns some of which have been re-sized too (so they will fit larger modern frames!!)
  • JenDee
    Hi

    I have a Sidney Heath Swansea sheepskin jacket which I've had for almost 20 years and only worn once or twice. I would be curious to know how old it is. It's in beautiful condition and looked hardly worn when I acquired it. It's also beautifully made, which is why I hang onto it. I could find very little info about Sidney Heath's but mostly they seemed to be a gents outfitters. However the jacket is quite small for a man's, I'm a size 12 and it fits only as long as I don't have any bulky clothing underneath.

    I'd be interested in any info. I could stick a photo up somewhere of the label if that would help.

    Thanks
    Jennie
    • maman
    • By maman 10th Jun 11, 1:11 AM
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    Thanks OP, this thread has been a lovely walk down memory lane for me!

    I remember my grandmother used to shop in Ben Evans when it was in Walter Road (I think Walters Road is a bit more colloquial, I've certailny heard it used). I don't think you made a mistake there Swansea Jack.

    I worked in Sidney Heath's (or Sidney Thief's as we called it as it was so expensive )when I was a student (this was in the mock Tudor building). It was the sort of shop that wealthy people used or an average person very occasionally for 'Sunday Best'. Most people only went inside to buy school uniform for the local grammar schools (Llwyn y Bryn in my case) or independent schools.

    What I disliked most about working there (Christmas/January Sale) was that the full-time workers were on commission and used to make a bee-line for regular customers. It wasn't that bit that bothered me but that the servility they showed felt all wrong. I'm all for good manners and customer care but this was real Uriah Heep stuff.

    I don't remember that particular dress shop but I do remember one called Moriarty. This was in Union Street, almost next door to the Burlington restaurant. Further down was a really old-fashioned cafe and further down again, near Duck, Son & Pinkers music shop was the Number 10 with it's stuffed bear!! There was another really smart dress shop at the bottom of Walter Road, just along from the Albert Hall but I can't remember the name.

    I've not lived in Swansea for 30 years but I've enjoyed digging in my memory.
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 14th Jun 11, 6:02 PM
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    ....There was another really smart dress shop at the bottom of Walter Road, just along from the Albert Hall but I can't remember the name.

    I've not lived in Swansea for 30 years but I've enjoyed digging in my memory.
    Originally posted by maman
    I remember "Dorothy" along there, just by the bus stop to the Uplands and beyond (I caught the 22, 32 or 35). They did evening dresses and bridal clothing as well as smart suits etc on two floors.
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