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  • ~*Plushroom*~
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    • 5th Jun 07, 5:43 PM
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    • 5th Jun 07, 5:43 PM
    Firstly thank you for the reminder that as a VM customer I no longer get to watch The Simpsons.

    If I were them I'd discuss with the neighbours how to sort it out and offer to help pay some of the costs, bearing in mind it was my extention that's caused the trouble.

    No details are given on how the neighbours have reacted, but in this situation I'd hope that I could solve it amicably with them as you do have to live next to each other.
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  • Elise
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    • 5th Jun 07, 11:28 PM
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    • 5th Jun 07, 11:28 PM
    I'd suggest they contacted Sky? They may be able to resite the dish or simply adjust it so that they got their TV signal back.
    • someone
    • By someone 5th Jun 07, 11:45 PM
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    someone
    • #4
    • 5th Jun 07, 11:45 PM
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    • 5th Jun 07, 11:45 PM
    Offer to pay to have the dish moved or if that wont work have the dish on my house
    • JDAdams
    • By JDAdams 6th Jun 07, 12:14 AM
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    JDAdams
    • #5
    • 6th Jun 07, 12:14 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 12:14 AM
    Assuming I had planning permission for the extension, it's not my problem -I'd be happy to work with them on a solution but certainly wouldn't pay for anything!
    • Mics_chick
    • By Mics_chick 6th Jun 07, 1:09 AM
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    Mics_chick
    • #6
    • 6th Jun 07, 1:09 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 1:09 AM
    Depends on whether the relationship with the neighbours is friendly or not and how they have reacted about it.

    The suggestion to contact Sky in the first place is a good one because it might not cost anybody anything or they might agree to treat the whole thing as 1 call-out so saving alot of money...

    I would offer to pay towards it if relations were good and I could afford it - peeing off alot of neighbours is not a good idea so it would be worth paying towards it to keep the peace...
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  • kmhtkmhtkmht
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    • 6th Jun 07, 2:30 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 2:30 AM
    Legally speaking, unless their was in existence a negative real burden not to build on the land, the neighbours have no remedy. Homer and Marge have no responsibility or liability for the obstruction of the Sky Signal. A servitude in this situation is impossible, as the interference of a Sky Signal is not praedial enough in any circumstance and not a recognised servitude by any stretch of the imagination - although one must see check Homer and Marge did not contract into an agreement to not interefere with the line of sight, as this would be the only method that guarantees this not happening.

    Repeated references to calling Sky would prove fruitless as this matter is outwith their control. Their responsibility in any event would be to provide the services of an engineer to re-adjust the antenna if feasible (i.e. moving it to a higher plane).

    I would also look to see if the properties in question are subject to a Common Management Scheme, to see whether any angle could be pursued here to see whether the building contravened any regulations.

    For completeness, another issue is whether the neighbours are personally barred from complaining, and seeking damages or rectification, as they may have expressly aquiesced to the building or been told of the effects of the building and acted in a manner offering no objection; essentially, they would've seen the building happen and the question would be whether or not they said or did anything about this.

    Finally, I would suggest that Homer and Marge tell their neighbours to get Virgin!
  • teamvillage
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    • 6th Jun 07, 9:05 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 9:05 AM
    Legally speaking, unless their was in existence a negative real burden not to build on the land, the neighbours have no remedy. Homer and Marge have no responsibility or liability for the obstruction of the Sky Signal. A servitude in this situation is impossible, as the interference of a Sky Signal is not praedial enough in any circumstance and not a recognised servitude by any stretch of the imagination - although one must see check Homer and Marge did not contract into an agreement to not interefere with the line of sight, as this would be the only method that guarantees this not happening.
    Originally posted by kmhtkmhtkmht
    Correct, R v Hunter amongst others. The subject of a large part of one of my exams last week!
    • dannahaz
    • By dannahaz 6th Jun 07, 10:13 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 10:13 AM
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    • 6th Jun 07, 10:13 AM
    Even if legally it wasn't my problem, morally I think it would be. I know how I would feel if the situation was reversed,

    First we'd see if moving the dish would solve the problem, and I would pay to have that done. I don't see why my neighbours should be out of pocket.

    I think the suggestion by a previous poster of having their dish on my house would also be a possible route if all else failed.
  • Felstea
    My mum had just the same (ish) thing, next door had a massive climbing tree thing which blocked her signal. She pointed this out to them and they cut it back which helped for a bit but was soon just as bad. She went round again to tell them and they offered to pay for her to get it moved. In the end, as they were so reasonable, she went 50 / 50 with them and has had no problems since. Homer should defo make an offer, otherwise he's just another example of the selfish attitude of modern society.
    • JayD
    • By JayD 6th Jun 07, 11:18 AM
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    Legal schmeegal, I would not want to upset my neighbours and spoil their leisure time. That is mean! I am assuming the extension is spoiling satellite signals for more than one household (unles Barney, Ned, Apu and Mo are co-habiting). So it isn't just a case of having one satellite dish moved but several. In the interest of good neighbourly relations, I would offer to help fund any expenses incurred in moving all those dishes - the amount being dependent on my financial status.
  • Freefall
    Legal schmeegal, I would not want to upset my neighbours and spoil their leisure time. That is mean! I am assuming the extension is spoiling satellite signals for more than one household (unles Barney, Ned, Apu and Mo are co-habiting). So it isn't just a case of having one satellite dish moved but several. In the interest of good neighbourly relations, I would offer to help fund any expenses incurred in moving all those dishes - the amount being dependent on my financial status.
    Originally posted by JayD
    Although, even as a (wannabe?) moneysaver, I don't advocate communism; I think you are right on target with that post.

    If only the rest of the world (especially a significant proportion of the moneysaving community who think moneysaving is about being selfish) then we would live in a much better society.
    • smudger1946
    • By smudger1946 6th Jun 07, 12:22 PM
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    sky
    Get the dish re-sited.
    We have no rights to a view, light etc. as planners will tell us, so you have no right to a digi signal, they will have to move it.
    It's the way of the world.
    I wouldnt pay to help them.
  • Bundy
    I think the correct thing to do would be to offer to have the sky dish raised for them. An extension would no doubt cost thousands - what's an extra 50 quid to keep the peace with your neighbours? They would no doubt hold it aginst you for the rest of your time living there. It just isn't worth it.

    Or send out the homeless sisters to work. It's their fault in the first place!
  • sanity
    get cable.
    • hollymcr
    • By hollymcr 6th Jun 07, 3:48 PM
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    hollymcr
    If the neigbours ring Sky and say "we want to cancel our subscription, as our neighbours have put up an extension and we can't get a signal any more" what do you think Sky will say?

    "OK, here's the number for Virgin Media"?

    Of-course not. I'd be very surprised if they didn't send someone out to re-site the dish; they might even get an upgrade (eg to Sky+) thrown in if they ask!
  • jonnydy2j
    Based on the way the sky signal is recieved the dish is either close to the boundry of the the house, two low or the extension is just overly massive since the dish needs to be pointed towards 28.3 degrees east of south and the angle of the dish is about 20 to 30 degrees above the horizon. This increases the futher south you go.

    The sky signal has therefore been lost more than likely by the third outcome, the extension is massive since most dishes are mounted at a mid to high level and also if it was in jepody it would have probably been noticed when plans were being drawn up. Personaly I would pay to have the dish relocated for my neighbours as like has already been said, you got to live next to them.

    However lots of people would feel that It is not their problem and therefore would not help their neighbour. (probably as they dont know their neighbour)(and the ten commandments tell us to love thy neighbour).

    Each to their own I suppose
    • rozeepozee
    • By rozeepozee 6th Jun 07, 10:23 PM
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    rozeepozee
    I had this problem when I had scaffolding erected around my building which interfered with my neighbours Sky channels. I refunded them the cost of the sky subscription until the scaffolding came down. It's important to maintain happy neighbour relations so I'd ensure mine weren't out of pocket!
  • webfoot
    Move the dish. The cost should be trivial. My son-in-law had his sited at the far end of his house on an extension pole as part of his Sky installation package and Sky are a business not philanthropists.
  • DaveK
    I had a similar issue regarding my neighbours tree, I offered to help cut it back but they got a professional in to do it, I did contact Sky before it was cut back and told them that either they came to re-site my dish or I'd cancel my contract. They are so desperate to keep you they'd move it for you for free. As it happened I didn't need to follow through with this. Don't forget it's Sky who are the one's that want your custom, just threaten to leave and they'll cut the price of your subscription.
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